Putty Squad for Amiga CD32 request thread. - Page 7

SolderPCB · 28 September 2015, 11:25

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Originally Posted by earok

Thank you mate, have responded with feedback

How did the beta test go?

earok · 29 September 2015, 00:58

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Originally Posted by SolderPCB

How did the beta test go?

Keep the faith, the release will come. The guys have done an amazing job on this.

Whitesnake · 10 October 2015, 16:18

This isn't directly related but a prototype of Putty Squad for the SEGA Mega Drive got released recently.

It has no sound effects and is missing the ending but it has music and all the levels it also has same controls and passwords as the Amiga version.

http://www.retrocollect.com/News/unr...ed-online.html

Telemachus · 20 October 2015, 18:26

is the beta available for test?

killergorilla · 22 October 2015, 02:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitesnake

This isn't directly related but a prototype of Putty Squad for the SEGA Mega Drive got released recently.

It has no sound effects and is missing the ending but it has music and all the levels it also has same controls and passwords as the Amiga version.

http://www.retrocollect.com/News/unr...ed-online.html

Wow, now that is interesting.

Psygore · 24 October 2015, 11:21

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Originally Posted by Telemachus

is the beta available for test?

The final cd32 version is done. Earok will make the iso and it will be available on his blog.

wmsteele · 24 October 2015, 13:32

Fantastic news... Well done to everyone involved.

Amiga1992 · 24 October 2015, 17:54

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Originally Posted by Psygore

The final cd32 version is done. Earok will make the iso and it will be available on his blog.

HElls yeah! Thanks so much, this is awesome!
I didn't play Putty Squad yet because I Don't use my A1200 for games, now I can finally give it a go

jotd · 24 October 2015, 21:45

Great job Psygore.
Gives me an idea. It should not be too hard to emulate whdload API (already done in Jst) but with all disk reads made using RN loader.
No os swaps no need for extra mem and all ecs games should be possible, and some AGA ones too provided they are not "twiddified".

SolderPCB · 24 October 2015, 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

Great job Psygore.
Gives me an idea. It should not be too hard to emulate whdload API (already done in Jst) but with all disk reads made using RN loader.
No os swaps no need for extra mem and all ecs games should be possible, and some AGA ones too provided they are not "twiddified".

Does this mean the possibility of running some AGA games on 2MB Aladdin or Lion King? or ECS games with 2MB requirement Primal Rage?

or even reduce OS swaps on certain games like Desert Strike?

Nice work Psygore

Look forward to the release from Earok

Amiga1992 · 25 October 2015, 02:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

Great job Psygore.
Gives me an idea. It should not be too hard to emulate whdload API (already done in Jst) but with all disk reads made using RN loader.
No os swaps no need for extra mem and all ecs games should be possible, and some AGA ones too provided they are not "twiddified".

If you can make games not lock up with OS swaps it would be amazing, this is the main reason I rarely use WHDLoad installs on my CD32 anymore.

jotd · 25 October 2015, 08:48

I don't see why not. After all, CD32 versions of Chuck Rock & Last Ninja, Premiere, more others already use ECS disk images & a custom loader that removes protection, fixes blitwaits... Rings a bell?

The only problem with reusing whdload slaves "as is" would be the lack of keyboard on standard CD32 setup (I have a A2000 keyboard that connects to the CD32 but most users don't).
Button 1 & 2 would work nice, but you won't be able to pause by pressing "P", "ESC", "space bar" whatever (so long for Desert Strike w/o keyboard).

OR the slaves would need to be modified to be able to read joypad buttons to simulate the keyboard, each and every one, one by one (no generic processing possible here).

OR the tool could be able to "inject" a keyboard event through the joypad reads: read joypad during vblank, and somehow "forward" the utility buttons (pause, green ...) to the keyboard handler. Don't know if it's possible on a real amiga, or Bert would already have done it (or Bert already did it for whdloadcd32 ??)

Amiga1992 · 25 October 2015, 16:33

Well, I understand effort needs to be put on this and I think it's worth it. I think the CD32 is sadly underappreciated within the Amiga community and more releases like this could push its populaity a bit forward so we can have nicer things for it.

There are a lot of games that don't need a keyboard, and well, we can live without a Pause button I guess!

earok · 26 October 2015, 08:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

Great job Psygore.
Gives me an idea. It should not be too hard to emulate whdload API (already done in Jst) but with all disk reads made using RN loader.
No os swaps no need for extra mem and all ecs games should be possible, and some AGA ones too provided they are not "twiddified".

I know JST is abandoned but I'd still love to see RN Loader functionality added to it

There's still a few unofficial ports on our blog that rely on it (SOTB 3 and Oh No More Lemmings spring to mind)

jotd · 26 October 2015, 20:10

First JST is not abandonned. I just resurrected it, mainly to make whdload slaves run without whdload and with kick 1.3 support. Btw source is now available.
A cd32 loader would be an independent program, that would reuse some parts of whdload emulation and the rn cd loader.
It would not be possible to quit back since most games use 1mb, and quitting back to wb would be reserved to 512k only games so I won't do it.
I m currently collecting technical info and source. Maybe I ll do it myself or maybe someone else will step up.

Amiga1992 · 26 October 2015, 21:44

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Originally Posted by jotd

It would not be possible to quit back since most games use 1mb, and quitting back to wb would be reserved to 512k only games so I won't do it.

Quit back to what?

It's a games console, so QUIT is not needed, only the RESET button

REALLY looking forward to this happening, thanks so much jotd!

earok · 26 October 2015, 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

First JST is not abandonned. I just resurrected it, mainly to make whdload slaves run without whdload and with kick 1.3 support. Btw source is now available.
A cd32 loader would be an independent program, that would reuse some parts of whdload emulation and the rn cd loader.
It would not be possible to quit back since most games use 1mb, and quitting back to wb would be reserved to 512k only games so I won't do it.
I m currently collecting technical info and source. Maybe I ll do it myself or maybe someone else will step up.

Both of those sound amazing. I've started investigating doing CDTV releases, so being able to run whdload slaves on kick 1.3 would be great

good luck!

Telemachus · 28 October 2015, 13:39

Putty Squad CD32 release has been a long time coming, I can't wait to try it

Where on earok's blog will it appear

?

earok · 28 October 2015, 14:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telemachus

Putty Squad CD32 release has been a long time coming, I can't wait to try it

Where on earok's blog will it appear

?

We're inching closer to a release! Keep the faith

SolderPCB · 05 November 2015, 19:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by earok

We're inching closer to a release! Keep the faith

millimeters closer

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10 October 2015, 16:18	#123
Whitesnake Martin Shaw Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 456	This isn't directly related but a prototype of Putty Squad for the SEGA Mega Drive got released recently. It has no sound effects and is missing the ending but it has music and all the levels it also has same controls and passwords as the Amiga version. http://www.retrocollect.com/News/unr...ed-online.html

20 October 2015, 18:26	#124
Telemachus Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Brussels Posts: 79	is the beta available for test?

24 October 2015, 13:32	#127
wmsteele Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Glasgow Posts: 128	Fantastic news... Well done to everyone involved.

24 October 2015, 21:45	#129
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	Great job Psygore. Gives me an idea. It should not be too hard to emulate whdload API (already done in Jst) but with all disk reads made using RN loader. No os swaps no need for extra mem and all ecs games should be possible, and some AGA ones too provided they are not "twiddified".

25 October 2015, 08:48	#132
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	I don't see why not. After all, CD32 versions of Chuck Rock & Last Ninja, Premiere, more others already use ECS disk images & a custom loader that removes protection, fixes blitwaits... Rings a bell? The only problem with reusing whdload slaves "as is" would be the lack of keyboard on standard CD32 setup (I have a A2000 keyboard that connects to the CD32 but most users don't). Button 1 & 2 would work nice, but you won't be able to pause by pressing "P", "ESC", "space bar" whatever (so long for Desert Strike w/o keyboard). OR the slaves would need to be modified to be able to read joypad buttons to simulate the keyboard, each and every one, one by one (no generic processing possible here). OR the tool could be able to "inject" a keyboard event through the joypad reads: read joypad during vblank, and somehow "forward" the utility buttons (pause, green ...) to the keyboard handler. Don't know if it's possible on a real amiga, or Bert would already have done it (or Bert already did it for whdloadcd32 ??)

25 October 2015, 16:33	#133
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Well, I understand effort needs to be put on this and I think it's worth it. I think the CD32 is sadly underappreciated within the Amiga community and more releases like this could push its populaity a bit forward so we can have nicer things for it. There are a lot of games that don't need a keyboard, and well, we can live without a Pause button I guess!

26 October 2015, 20:10	#135
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	First JST is not abandonned. I just resurrected it, mainly to make whdload slaves run without whdload and with kick 1.3 support. Btw source is now available. A cd32 loader would be an independent program, that would reuse some parts of whdload emulation and the rn cd loader. It would not be possible to quit back since most games use 1mb, and quitting back to wb would be reserved to 512k only games so I won't do it. I m currently collecting technical info and source. Maybe I ll do it myself or maybe someone else will step up.

28 October 2015, 13:39	#138
Telemachus Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Brussels Posts: 79	Putty Squad CD32 release has been a long time coming, I can't wait to try it Where on earok's blog will it appear ?

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