A1200: PCMCIA card does not go in!

Sim085 · 13 July 2014, 18:34

Hello, I would like to connect my A1200 to the Internet. I have a wireless PCMCIA card; KCORP Lifestyle KLG-520 802.11g.

However when I try to physically push the card in to the PCMCI slot it get stuck!! It cannot go all the way. I have looked inside the PCMCI slot and it looks good.

Is this because only a particular type of PCMCI cards match this particular slot?

Mrs Beanbag · 13 July 2014, 18:55

it looks like you've bought a Cardbus card, this is the next generation up from PCMCIA, it is a 32 bit interface and has a different shaped notch on the side to prevent insertion into 16 bit slots.

Sim085 · 13 July 2014, 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs Beanbag

it looks like you've bought a Cardbus card, this is the next generation up from PCMCIA, it is a 32 bit interface and has a different shaped notch on the side to prevent insertion into 16 bit slots.

Thought it must have been something like that. What cards will work (for Wireless) on an A1200? Ideally the ones that give less problems even from a software perspective?

fryguy · 13 July 2014, 19:42

Netgear MA401 works, but you might have update the firmware (in a PC) if you like to use WPA(2).

Mrs Beanbag · 13 July 2014, 19:47

I use a 3COM 3C589D-COMBO but it is not wireless

Sim085 · 13 July 2014, 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by fryguy

Netgear MA401 works, but you might have update the firmware (in a PC) if you like to use WPA(2).

Thanks for both replies. I was wondering; would an ethernet connection be feel faster than wireless? Or on an A1200 it does not make a difference if the speed is 11 megabits per second (as the Netgear MA401) or 1 Gbps? I am asking to see if I should buy an ethernet card or a wireless card.

r.cade · 13 July 2014, 20:13

I think either one is much faster than the A1200 card interface and CPU. You will never reach saturation of the network.

fryguy · 13 July 2014, 21:04

I don't think there is much speed difference. But if you're going to use WPA(2) you're gonna a need a fast CPU.

Sim085 · 13 July 2014, 22:56

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Originally Posted by fryguy

I don't think there is much speed difference. But if you're going to use WPA(2) you're gonna a need a fast CPU.

Like what? What CPU is needed for a "decent" browsing experience?

crazyc · 13 July 2014, 23:17

You are not going to get a "decent" browsing experience on a normal a1200. I run a 68060 over a wired network and would not call it a decent browsing experience. It's ok for aminet and downloading files from my Nas but most else is painful.

Mrs Beanbag · 13 July 2014, 23:38

yeah i just use mine to FTP to my PC, don't even need to do that now i've got a PCMCIA SD card reader.

Nobby_UK · 13 July 2014, 23:41

http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php...=wireless+card

on a 040/25 is OK for Amiga friendly sites (None/Minimal Flash/CSS) and FTP.

Sim085 · 14 July 2014, 15:38

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Originally Posted by Nobby_UK

http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php...=wireless+card

on a 040/25 is OK for Amiga friendly sites (None/Minimal Flash/CSS) and FTP.

Thanks for the link. Another question on the subject. Is internet possible on Workbench 3.1? Or I need to upgrade to Workbench 3.9? As much as I know AmigaOS 4.0 is out of the question on an A1200 unless you have a PPC card right?

demolition · 14 July 2014, 16:02

Internet works fine with 3.1. I use AmiTCP but MiamiDX is also very common. I would recommend wired network (but then I always do since it is safer and more stable). I think many WPA2 solutions for the Amiga uses software based encryption which is not very good since a browser already needs all the cpu power you can throw at it. And obviously, you should not use WEP or WPA encryption.

Nobby_UK · 14 July 2014, 20:36

Still on 3.0 here.

I use a Wired Card + PC with my 600
Can't browse (no browser for 2.1)
But FTP and IRC are fine.

Quote:

you should not use WEP or WPA encryption.

I use WAP-PSK authentication, with TKIP encryption.

Quote:

Transfers were really slow on my 060-50

Figures Please !
I get about 100-150 K/sec

fgh · 15 July 2014, 11:25

I made a list of compatible cards some time ago.

Sim085 · 15 July 2014, 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by fgh

I made a list of compatible cards some time ago.

Thank you for that.

ancalimon · 15 July 2014, 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by demolition

Internet works fine with 3.1. I use AmiTCP but MiamiDX is also very common. I would recommend wired network (but then I always do since it is safer and more stable). I think many WPA2 solutions for the Amiga uses software based encryption which is not very good since a browser already needs all the cpu power you can throw at it. And obviously, you should not use WEP or WPA encryption.

Is there any card that does hardware encryption?

fryguy · 15 July 2014, 21:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sim085

Like what? What CPU is needed for a "decent" browsing experience?

To get a decent (there's no CSS capable browser though which works ok on real 68k Amiga) browsing experience i would recommend a gfx board. I believe you want a fast 040 or 060 when using WPA2. I have only tried it using 060.

ancalimon · 15 July 2014, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by fryguy

To get a decent (there's no CSS capable browser though which works ok on real 68k Amiga) browsing experience i would recommend a gfx board. I believe you want a fast 040 or 060 when using WPA2. I have only tried it using 060.

I once made it work with wpa but a few years after that I have to use wireless again (the wired card no longer works) and now I can not make it work with prismv2.

What is the command line needed and should I also create any env variables?

By the way. Transfers were really slow on my 060-50

By the way... there is a css capable browser on Amiga AGA. It's Netsurf AGA

Still not fully usable and very slow but it works.

13 July 2014, 18:34	#1
Sim085 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 962	A1200: PCMCIA card does not go in! Hello, I would like to connect my A1200 to the Internet. I have a wireless PCMCIA card; KCORP Lifestyle KLG-520 802.11g. However when I try to physically push the card in to the PCMCI slot it get stuck!! It cannot go all the way. I have looked inside the PCMCI slot and it looks good. Is this because only a particular type of PCMCI cards match this particular slot?

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13 July 2014, 18:55	#2
Mrs Beanbag Glastonbridge Software Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Edinburgh/Scotland Posts: 2,243	it looks like you've bought a Cardbus card, this is the next generation up from PCMCIA, it is a 32 bit interface and has a different shaped notch on the side to prevent insertion into 16 bit slots.

13 July 2014, 19:42	#4
fryguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Skarabörg, Sweden Age: 44 Posts: 1,019	Netgear MA401 works, but you might have update the firmware (in a PC) if you like to use WPA(2).

13 July 2014, 19:47	#5
Mrs Beanbag Glastonbridge Software Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Edinburgh/Scotland Posts: 2,243	I use a 3COM 3C589D-COMBO but it is not wireless

13 July 2014, 20:13	#7
r.cade Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Augusta, Georgia, USA Posts: 548	I think either one is much faster than the A1200 card interface and CPU. You will never reach saturation of the network.

13 July 2014, 21:04	#8
fryguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Skarabörg, Sweden Age: 44 Posts: 1,019	I don't think there is much speed difference. But if you're going to use WPA(2) you're gonna a need a fast CPU.

13 July 2014, 23:17	#10
crazyc Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Location: Gravesend - UK Posts: 927	You are not going to get a "decent" browsing experience on a normal a1200. I run a 68060 over a wired network and would not call it a decent browsing experience. It's ok for aminet and downloading files from my Nas but most else is painful.

13 July 2014, 23:38	#11
Mrs Beanbag Glastonbridge Software Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Edinburgh/Scotland Posts: 2,243	yeah i just use mine to FTP to my PC, don't even need to do that now i've got a PCMCIA SD card reader.

13 July 2014, 23:41	#12
Nobby_UK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,595	http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php...=wireless+card on a 040/25 is OK for Amiga friendly sites (None/Minimal Flash/CSS) and FTP.

14 July 2014, 16:02	#14
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 43 Posts: 4,190	Internet works fine with 3.1. I use AmiTCP but MiamiDX is also very common. I would recommend wired network (but then I always do since it is safer and more stable). I think many WPA2 solutions for the Amiga uses software based encryption which is not very good since a browser already needs all the cpu power you can throw at it. And obviously, you should not use WEP or WPA encryption.

15 July 2014, 11:25	#16
fgh Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Norway Posts: 817	I made a list of compatible cards some time ago.

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