English Amiga Board


Go Back   English Amiga Board > Support > support.Apps

 
 
Thread Tools
Old 01 February 2023, 12:05   #1
Korban
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Australia
Posts: 188
Emulating An Amiga On A PC Emulator On An Amiga Emulator On a PC Emulator Recursively

For no reason other than "because" Ive got it in my head to see how many times I can emulate an Amiga on pc emulator emulating an Amiga, and so on, on my new-ish PC.

Hard drive/hard file size is the biggest concern however.
Is there a way to use directory based "harddrives" on pc-task or pcx?
Alternatively is mounting a fat formatted partition under AmigaOS my best option?
Given the recursive nature of the experiment the former would be less cumbersome, so Id prefer to go that route if possible.
It's been a while, but I seem to recall pc-task and pcx having pretty modest maximum sizes for hardfiles, hence the reason Ive not put those options into the equation.

Any suggestions or feedback about the best way to go about it all would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Korban is offline  
Old 01 February 2023, 12:56   #2
khph_re
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Northampton/UK
Posts: 526
Quote:
Originally Posted by Korban View Post
For no reason other than "because" Ive got it in my head to see how many times I can emulate an Amiga on pc emulator emulating an Amiga, and so on, on my new-ish PC.
Nice, while I can't be much help, I did do something a little similar.

While at Uni everyone was buying Mac's (it was graphic design)
I was already deciding to go down the 3D rendering route so upgraded my Amiga instead.

I did all my course work through Shapeshifter, and all my essays through Soft windows on the Mac, on the Amiga. Happy (complicated) days!
khph_re is offline  
Old 07 February 2023, 03:53   #3
giantclam
Registered User
 
giantclam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: australia
Posts: 491
Did something like this long time ago ~ vmware on linux host, win2000 guest in vm, winuae on that guest running Amiga wb3.1, frodo running macos8 in the amiga guest ...all worked, but pretty much crippled the machine in the process =) Newer hw and large ramstack would do better these days 8)
giantclam is offline  
Old 07 February 2023, 11:44   #4
dreamkatcha
I've got a new byline
 
dreamkatcha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 1,219
I've had similar thoughts, except it would involve a more linear regression to previous systems and I'd call it the 'seven degrees of emulation'. Then pathetically fail to make seven distinct nodular leaps.

For example, you could emulate a C64 via WinUAE or FS-UAE. Then under your pseudo-C64, emulate the Commodore PET. I'm not sure where you go from there. Can the PET emulate anything else?

Another potential route would be to emulate a ZX Spectrum in a virtual C64 environment running under WinUAE/FS-UAE. Then what?

What I do know for sure is that it's a real pain to Google emulators that run on vintage hardware because the vast majority of resources cater towards emulating old computer systems via contemporary ones.

All this must have been debated a dozen times already?
dreamkatcha is offline  
Old 07 February 2023, 12:57   #5
jotd
This cat is no more
 
jotd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: FRANCE
Age: 52
Posts: 8,272
can't you run MAME amiga version from MAME on PC running an amiga VM ?
jotd is offline  
Old 07 February 2023, 14:40   #6
Korban
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Australia
Posts: 188
The idea is to see how many layers of amiga/pc/amiga/pc I can get.
Going lower spec systems, using VMs, running MacOS under AmigaOS is too "easy".

According to sysinfo I have roughly 11,000Mips of emulated 68k processing power to play with on my i9-13900kf system, so I should get a few layers running reasonably well.
PC-task and pcx both run under UAE, and UAE and Fellow run under them, so thats the path I want to take, but harddrive space for this sort of recursive set-up is the potential stumbling block.
Im thinking I'll most likely have to mount a fat formatted hardfile due to the storage space required.

Last edited by Korban; 07 February 2023 at 15:02.
Korban is offline  
Old 07 February 2023, 17:55   #7
Total Eclipse
Registered User
 
Total Eclipse's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Atherstone / UK
Age: 49
Posts: 171
I've not tried with an Amiga, but I did have Windows 10 runing a virtual XP machine running a PSP emulator running a ST emulator running an Atari 800 emulator.
Total Eclipse is offline  
Old 07 February 2023, 18:04   #8
rothers
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: UK
Posts: 488
You could go down in system power too, PC->Mac->Console->Amiga->ZX Spectrum->ZX81.

Then see if Monster Maze still works.
rothers is offline  
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Gotek floppy emulator vs. HxC SD floppy emulator c0dehunter support.Hardware 50 05 July 2016 09:49
USB HxC Floppy emulator and SD HxC Floppy Emulator by Lotharek on ext FDD dirkies Amiga scene 1 03 April 2012 00:08
THE Emulator (BBC emulator) xc8 Retrogaming General Discussion 2 27 April 2010 03:49
Frederic's Emulator inside and Emulator thread Fred the Fop Retrogaming General Discussion 22 09 March 2006 07:31
Which Amiga emulator is best? Tim Janssen Amiga scene 45 15 February 2002 19:52

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 04:13.

Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Page generated in 0.09488 seconds with 13 queries