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Old 10 April 2020, 12:28   #1
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Request: Updated Alien Fish Finger

Apologies if this is in the wrong place.

Alien Fish Finger was massively updated in 2011. The latest release can be found here:

https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/alienfishfinger

EAB thread here: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=58134

Unfortunately the current slave is looking for the last release before these updates. An updated slave would be amazing, but sadly also beyond my skills.

Thanks in advance!
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Old 10 April 2020, 12:40   #2
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I have original Alien Fish Finger, v1.30 and v1.31 in my Amiga. I can pack them in LHA and upload in the Zone.
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Old 10 April 2020, 13:58   #3
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I have original Alien Fish Finger, v1.30 and v1.31 in my Amiga. I can pack them in LHA and upload in the Zone.
I managed to get the original to work (via WHDLoad, it won't run straight on my machine). Unfortunately this means 1.31 won't run on my machine either
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And what is the reason you need WHD load for it? Works perfectly as is.
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It crashes my machine on launch, using SmartCrash I can see the problem is an 'Illegal Instruction'. If I try and run it with snoopdos going even SmartCrash can't help me, instant machine death.

I tried with a minimal startup - booted with no startup sequence, ran setpatch, and then ran the game - same deal, reboot and an 8000 0004.

I'd blame my machine, but every other game is working fine
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Sorry for the double post! Did more testing, the issue is CPU Caches.

Run 'CPU NOCACHE' then launch Alien Fish Finger and it work fine!
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Old 07 June 2022, 20:32   #7
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Sorry for the double post! Did more testing, the issue is CPU Caches.

Run 'CPU NOCACHE' then launch Alien Fish Finger and it work fine!
Weird, I had an older version of the game which was working fine for me the other day as I just discovered the game and started playing, but then I updated to the newer version v1.31 from WHD load and also from the link here https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/alienfishfinger it no longer loads for me.

I just get a black screen with the WHDload version but I can press F10 and get out of it. If I try and run one from the link above it just crashes. Anyone any ideas? No Cache not working for me in WHD load.
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Old 07 June 2022, 21:07   #8
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Weird, I had an older version of the game which was working fine for me the other day as I just discovered the game and started playing, but then I updated to the newer version v1.31 from WHD load and also from the link here https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/alienfishfinger it no longer loads for me.

I just get a black screen with the WHDload version but I can press F10 and get out of it. If I try and run one from the link above it just crashes. Anyone any ideas? No Cache not working for me in WHD load.
Just run NOCACHE then run the 1.31 you downloaded as a standalone executable, no WHDLoad needed.
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Just run NOCACHE then run the 1.31 you downloaded as a standalone executable, no WHDLoad needed.
Ok so my understanding of running NOCACHE is a tool type for the WHD load version.

So when you say that running the stand alone version I put NOCACHE as a tool type in the icon?

I installed the stand alone and it crashes my system. One of the messages that allows me to suspend or reboot.
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Ok so my understanding of running NOCACHE is a tool type for the WHD load version.
Ah yes, it is a tooltype for WHDLoad, but you can also disable the CPU Caches for your whole system by running the following in the CLI:
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I installed the stand alone and it crashes my system. One of the messages that allows me to suspend or reboot.
So I have a script to launch this version which is simply:
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CPU NOCACHE >NIL:
ALIEN-FishFinger-1.31
CPU CACHE >NIL:
I've created a project icon for this with C:IconX as the default tool.

I've stuck this version in The Zone so you can try it, let me know how it goes!
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Ah yes, it is a tooltype for WHDLoad, but you can also disable the CPU Caches for your whole system by running the following in the CLI:
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CPU NOCACHE


So I have a script to launch this version which is simply:
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CPU NOCACHE >NIL:
ALIEN-FishFinger-1.31
CPU CACHE >NIL:
I've created a project icon for this with C:IconX as the default tool.

I've stuck this version in The Zone so you can try it, let me know how it goes!

I'm going to grab that from the zone.

With a TF1260 NOCACHE typed into shell does nothing. However with my Apollo 1260 that command worked. So I dunno what that's about.
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With a TF1260 NOCACHE typed into shell does nothing. However with my Apollo 1260 that command worked. So I dunno what that's about.
That's odd, if you try the command:
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CPU ?
is NOCACHE listed as a valid switch? It's usually the 2nd or 3rd one in the list IIRC
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Forget I spoke! I forgot I had to place CPU first before entering in NOCACHE.

Anyways, indigolemon, I grabbed your version and all is working well thanks to that cool icon you made with instructions to disable cache embedded. Thanks very much will be a busy evening sitting on my arse playing this game now.
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I wish I could do all these cool kind things like writing little script to do this and that! Admire all that sort of stuff no matter how easy it may be to those in the know.
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FThanks very much will be a busy evening sitting on my arse playing this game now.
You're welcome! Stuff like wee scripts and stuff will click eventually, you learn by mucking about (or at least I do)
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You're welcome! Stuff like wee scripts and stuff will click eventually, you learn by mucking about (or at least I do)
spoke too soon again!

So when I tested the game it was extracted to ram. It worked there. To cut a very long story short, when I copy the game you uploaded anywhere else (tried to partitions) the script part of the icon gets uh shall we say corrupted. So it doesn't run when I double click the icon. So if I either edit the script section manual and put in exactly what you have and run the game I get either nothing or else the old suspend or reboot message. If I copy across your original script from the lha you kindly put onto the zone for me that does indeed restore the script I have in the AFF folder but it will have the same behaviour as when I manually corrected the script.

So basically when I extracted to ram it seemed to run ok.

But if extracted to a partition or even extracted to ram then copied over to a partition it does not run. And when I examine the little script it will be populated with all random symbols and stuff

Annoyed as I only got one good game this evening. I really like this improved v1.31 version too!


Tested other stuff on my partitions and all seems good.
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All good now! Not sure why it wasn't working to begin with.
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