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Old 14 October 2021, 19:53   #1
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4 buttons gamepad for Amiga - 3 button for Atari ST - Compatible with ZX and C64

Via heavy modifications, a real 3 button gamepad is supported via the standard joystick port (port 0 - mouse port) in any ST and STE machine.
The third button is obtained via a combination of UP+DOWN at same time,

As an example, a video, Metal Slug for Atari STE being played with a 3 button gamepad:

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FYI: This gamepad support 4 different buttons for Amiga computers, as well it is compatible with ZX Spectrum and Commodore 64 as well.
Also, this can be used with all classic games too. As a multi-purpose retro platform gamepad.

The gamepad is compatible with Atari ST/E, Amiga, ZX Spectrum and Commodore 64 at once

Atari ST Button layout is:
PAD - Directions
A - Fire 0
B - Fire 1
C - Third button (UP+DOWN ; classic games detect it as UP or DOWN)
X - remapped as UP (In order to have a jump button for classic games)
Y - Fire 0
Z - remapped as DOWN

Amiga Button layout is:
PAD - Directions
A - Fire 0
B - Fire 1
C - Third button (UP+DOWN ; classic games detect it as UP or DOWN)
X - remapped as UP (In order to have a jump button for classic games)
Y - Fire 0
Z - remapped as DOWN
Start - Fire 2

ZX Spectrum Button layout:
PAD - Directions
A - Fire 0
C - Third button (UP+DOWN ; classic games detect it as UP or DOWN)
X - remapped as UP (In order to have a jump button for classic games)
Y - Fire 0
Z - remapped as DOWN

C64 Button layout:
PAD - Directions
A - Fire 0
C - Third button (UP+DOWN ; classic games detect it as UP or DOWN)
X - remapped as UP (In order to have a jump button for classic games)
Y - Fire 0
Z - remapped as DOWN
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Acquisition cost is 6€ per unit; modification takes 35 minutes, and testing/fixing takes another 5 - 10 minutes
labour cost is 20€ (you are paying 20€ for aprox. 40 - 50 minutes of hand work, the real hard to implement is the combined button; this requires the creation of two independent paths).


A total of 26€ plus shipment,





Tracked shipment cost 7€ for Spain, 11€ for the rest of Europe, 12€ for America - Australia - Asia - Japan,

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Old 15 October 2021, 10:36   #2
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If You are able to make C64 layout with 3 independent buttons (same as Amiga, but 2 & 3 buttons are activated by VCC) with Amiga layout (switch), i'll take it!

Edit: here is about 2 & 3 button for C64. And yes, there are games (more than on this page) using even three buttons (e.g. Metal Warrior Ultra)

Edit 2: Same pinout as Amiga have Atari XL/XE, so it's Amiga/Atari 8bit mode

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If You are able to make C64 layout with 3 independent buttons (same as Amiga, but 2 & 3 buttons are activated by VCC) with Amiga layout (switch), i'll take it!

Edit: here is about 2 & 3 button for C64. And yes, there are games (more than on this page) using even three buttons (e.g. Metal Warrior Ultra)

Edit 2: Same pinout as Amiga have Atari XL/XE, so it's Amiga/Atari 8bit mode

Thanks!


The info for C64 is very clear now,


For clarification I create these gamepad
layout images:












Now, its easier to select a layout, or modify one of these,

Obviously, for the A500 & C64 layout, its not recommeded to press upper and lower buttons at same time (a resistance would need to be added); I think it is not dangerous, but button 2 & 3 for C64 will produce not results for A500 or other machines.

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If You are able to make C64 layout with 3 independent buttons (same as Amiga, but 2 & 3 buttons are activated by VCC) with Amiga layout (switch), i'll take it!

Edit: here is about 2 & 3 button for C64. And yes, there are games (more than on this page) using even three buttons (e.g. Metal Warrior Ultra)

Edit 2: Same pinout as Amiga have Atari XL/XE, so it's Amiga/Atari 8bit mode



You have a private message with info about your custom gamepad layout,
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Solo Kazuki,

Your two custom gamepads (normal and C64, C128, VIC20 compatible at once) have been sent today,
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Thanks! I'm waiting for them to test and play with this joypads. I'll tell You for sure if first joypads with 3 buttons for both Amiga/Atari/etc and Commodore standards are good idea.
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I got two ordered custom joypads mentioned above in this thread.
I'm after some testings (in practice of course) and also another owner of custom joypad. Joypads are nicely done and have such functions (for interested ones ask exact price OP):

A = 1st button
B = 2nd button
C = 3rd button
X = up
Y = down
Z = up + down

[Turbo] switch change 2/3 button work between Amiga/Atari/etc and C64/VIC20/etc standard.

It works excellent both on my A1200 and C64. I'm recommending this version because it's probably only controller possible to buy/order with such properties!
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I got two ordered custom joypads mentioned above in this thread.
I'm after some testings (in practice of course) and also another owner of custom joypad. Joypads are nicely done and have such functions (for interested ones ask exact price OP):

A = 1st button
B = 2nd button
C = 3rd button
X = up
Y = down
Z = up + down

[Turbo] switch change 2/3 button work between Amiga/Atari/etc and C64/VIC20/etc standard.

It works excellent both on my A1200 and C64. I'm recommending this version because it's probably only controller possible to buy/order with such properties!



Thanks a lot for the detailed feedback!
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I want one of these! Check your PMs, masteries!
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