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Old 26 October 2007, 17:49   #1
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kick 1.2 VS Kick 1.3 for A500'games compatibility

After I tested games like one on one,archon and archon 2.....that games works only on kick 1.2 for unknown reasons......I changed my own basic A500 config file on winuae to use kickstart 1.2 instead kick 1.3

thread aboout this here:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ghlight=archon


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kick 1.2 seems to be more compatible for A500'games...at least I can't found a game that not works on kick 1.2 but works on kick 1.3

so...it seems that kick 1.2 is the best solution for the Amiga 500 or a winuae' A500 config

Im right?

or

anyone knows a game that doesn't work on kick 1.2 but works on kick 1.3 ?

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Old 26 October 2007, 18:20   #2
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Use Kickstart 1.2 for some really old games from the mid 80s, like Marble Madness, One-on-One, Archon, Seven Cities of Gold etc.

Most of the A500 games from 1987/88 - 199x works fine with Kickstart 1.3.
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Old 26 October 2007, 18:35   #3
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Use Kickstart 1.2 for some really old games from the mid 80s, like Marble Madness, One-on-One, Archon, Seven Cities of Gold etc.

Most of the A500 games from 1987/88 - 199x works fine with Kickstart 1.3.
yes..I know that....but it seems that the best kickstart for all A500'games ...old or not so old is kick 1.2

or you know a game from 1987/88 - 199x that doesn't work on kick1.2 ?
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or you know a game from 1987/88 - 199x that doesn't work on kick1.2 ?
I can't remember a specific game, because i've got my first A500 in 1989 with KS 1.3. But there are probably enough games, which works with Kickstart 1.3 only. Mosty games from the 90s iirc.
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Old 26 October 2007, 19:12   #5
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I can't remember a specific game, because i've got my first A500 in 1989 with KS 1.3. But there are probably enough games, which works with Kickstart 1.3 only. Mosty games from the 90s iirc.
don't believe that there are probably enough games, which works with Kickstart 1.3 only and fail on kick 1.2

found one and I will make you a granite' statue



there are tons of A500 withh kick 1.2.....games' developers tend to maintain certain backward compatibility
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This is not too hard. Try DeluxeGalaga. This one needs at least KS 2.04.
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This is not too hard. Try DeluxeGalaga. This one needs at least KS 2.04.
ah....but that's another thing....also I know that turbotrax and dracula requires kick 2.0+

the thing here is between kick 1.2 & 1.3
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Old 26 October 2007, 20:18   #8
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1.3 is THE Kickstart everyone expects and knows. It won't be changed.
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Old 26 October 2007, 20:40   #9
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1.3 is THE Kickstart everyone expects and knows. It won't be changed.
you are the expert but...I don't care about everyone expects and knows

I always used kick 1.3 but now I use kick 1.2 because is most compatible with games

just changed my opinion a few days ago and I don't expect a revolution on the amiga'scene about this

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Now I offer a Ferrari as reward to found a game that fail on kick1.2 but works on kick.13

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All the early EA demos released in the early days of the Amiga require Kick 1.2 but don't work correctly on 1.3

The very first couple of demos that existed on the Amiga (including the EA special demo that allegedly 'only works on an A1000') don't even work with 1.2 and only work with Kick 1.0 and 1.1
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From the 450+ games I've configured a year or so ago, 95% of all OCS / ECS games work perfectly with Kickstart v1.3... There are only a very small minority that don't
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I don't think theres a need for anything under 1.3, on a emulator you can have you pick of Kickstart Roms, but I would not run a real Amiga with anything less than KS2, I guess it depends what you want

I think theres a crap load of games that won't run on KS2 though, weather this is down to KS2, RAM configuration, chipsets I never knew.
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bla bla bla...but it seems until now that kick 1.2 it's better and more compatible for games than kick 1.3

anyways I will wait if somebody found a valid argument to convince me to return to kickstart 1.3

come on guys...nobody wants to be a pharaoh?....nobody wanna ride a Ferrari?
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kick 1.2 seems to be more compatible for A500'games...at least I can't found a game that not works on kick 1.2 but works on kick 1.3
Neither can I (for now).

However how about a game that does not work on either 1.2 or 1.3, but 1.1 only?
The game is not much known and rare as an original: I have already mentioned it in a related thread 4 years ago: it's Quintette!

FWIW ...
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I don't think theres a need for anything under 1.3, on a emulator you can have you pick of Kickstart Roms, but I would not run a real Amiga with anything less than KS2, I guess it depends what you want

I think theres a crap load of games that won't run on KS2 though, weather this is down to KS2, RAM configuration, chipsets I never knew.

It's mainly down to the chipset as well. I well remember the aggro caused when the Full ECS chipset was launched.. a load of games never ran on that until they were patched.

Even relokick wouldn't run some of my older games on my 1200 iirc. Although that's going years back..

1.3 KS fixes a lot of bugs over 1.2 anyway so I'd stick with 1.3...
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