Paul van der Valk - Amiga Music Genius - Page 3

Mark Wright · 17 May 2015, 23:54

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Originally Posted by s2325

Thank you. Is it your music on yotube? [ Show youtube player ] [ Show youtube player ]

Erm yes!

From a very long time ago :-) Thank you for uploading them anyway... lots of my OctaMED stuff only plays correctly within OctaMED itself (3.0 I think) - it sounds weird even with the official (Amiga) standalone player and with DeliPlayer/EaglePlayer.. I must have taken the synthsound editor to its limits

This was always my favourite tune during my "trying to be MON/innovative with chip sound" era, the way it should be heard, from 3:20 onwards for "new effect!" alert:

http://www.radiofriendly.co.uk/fable.mp3

saimon69 · 20 May 2015, 02:52

A bit OT but anyone remembers the microsamples? Was an interesting trend on noisetracker that lasted a bit around 1989/1990 where in order to use more pure waveform some instrument loops were very reduced, like in the tens of bytes and that later morphed in the chiptuners; i used several microsamples in my compositions too.

Mark Wright · 20 May 2015, 02:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by saimon69

A bit OT but anyone remembers the microsamples? Was an interesting trend on noisetracker that lasted a bit around 1989/1990 where in order to use more pure waveform some instrument loops were very reduced, like in the tens of bytes and that later morphed in the chiptuners; i used several microsamples in my compositions too.

bzzzzzz.. buzzing wasps in a can... bzzzzzz...

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mld · 24 May 2015, 15:11

speaking of buzzing wasps... med.chooseyourwarrior qualifies, heh ;-)
I'm listening through your old meds now, Mark. Great tunes btw. Didn't know meds like this existed, the few synth meds I knew were kind of boring. ;-)

Hmmh, some Synthtracker and some Synthesis mods are worth to be listened to a second time, imo.

And back on topic: I remember I was blown off my chair when I first heard PvdV's Hybris, and I listened to it over and over...

s2325 · 04 February 2017, 15:02

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Originally Posted by mark_k

Just resurrecting this thread because I was looking for old Imploder versions today...That tune was probably ripped from the Animation program on the Imploder 1.0 disk, which is a little system-legal demo/intro (on a draggable screen no less). Search for "Imploder v1.0 The (1989)(Discovery Software)[cr PCI].adf"
Also on that disk are a couple of programs which play sound, Tune and Drums. I'm not sure whether they play just a subset of tracks from the Imploder music or are different.

on YouTube

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Axxy · 04 February 2017, 15:54

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Originally Posted by s2325

on YouTube

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Ah, that's the tune I remember from way back when...

Not that it's an Amiga tune but Reed did a cover of this one in .xm format I'm afraid.. http://amp.dascene.net/detail.php?de...ules&view=6176

s2325 · 06 February 2017, 13:35

Imploder v4.0

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amiga_Forever · 15 February 2017, 08:40

how can you not like Amiga demos ? There part of the Amiga history..... I don't care as long as the music is good.

s2325 · 26 February 2017, 11:30

as mp3 file
http://worldofmenchi.fr/Amiga/Musics...der%20V1.0.mp3
http://worldofmenchi.fr/Amiga/Musics...%20Success.mp3
http://worldofmenchi.fr/Amiga/Musics...der%20V4.0.mp3

mutetus · 21 March 2017, 16:44

https://soundcloud.com/mutetus/imploder-4-remix-v2
My version of Imploder 4. Nothing can beat the original though, but I had so much fun making this. Paul van der valk is a god to me

You can't hear those kind of genius modulations in any other songs.

Estrayk · 22 November 2019, 00:29

Sorry for up this old thread but last night I converted HYBRIS ingame music to protracker. Maybe someone can be interested in check the pattern notes and arpegios for make a remix or a modern version.

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BONUS : I also made an Atari ST cover coz I was bored.

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Antiriad_UK · 22 November 2019, 00:47

Ace.

Frog · 22 November 2019, 14:19

very nice conversion.
It seems slower than the original hybris ingame music : [ Show youtube player ]

Why have you choosed to convert it using the tool protracker on Amiga, there's plenty of others trackers
Your motivation about the choice of protracker is the ease of listening to modules, editing on other platforms ?

Estrayk · 22 November 2019, 16:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frog

very nice conversion.
It seems slower than the original hybris ingame music : [ Show youtube player ]

Well, it is right, but easy solution, increase the bpm in Protracker.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frog

Why have you choosed to convert it using the tool protracker on Amiga, there's plenty of others trackers
Your motivation about the choice of protracker is the ease of listening to modules, editing on other platforms ?

The reason why I do conversions in protracker is for several reasons.

First because it is where I feel more comfortable doing conversions and more faster.

Second is because the score is easily understood in case someone is interested in converting to a more modern platform.(Cubase/Logic/Renoise)

Third, a .mod can be easily imported by many other programs and so you can easily do the conversion. For example, I just have to import this mod in AHX or Pretracker and I just had to make instruments, modify arpegios and a few modifications more, all patterns (notes) are imported automatically.
Another example, If I want use the tune in a CPC, ZX or MSX, I can import easily a .mod in ArkosTracker and the same. in few minutes, I can make a AY-3-8910A version. And so, a lot of examples....

and lastly, a mod can be played on any platform.

rsn8887 · 22 November 2019, 16:53

Paul van der Valk is indeed a genius. Poing is one of my favorite Amiga games ever!

no9 · 22 November 2019, 17:12

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Originally Posted by Estrayk

Sorry for up this old thread

Why sorry? Thanks to your bump I had a chance to discover interesting thread I didn't see before

Your cover is very nice too!

saimon69 · 22 November 2019, 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frog

very nice conversion.
It seems slower than the original hybris ingame music : [ Show youtube player ]

Why have you choosed to convert it using the tool protracker on Amiga, there's plenty of others trackers
Your motivation about the choice of protracker is the ease of listening to modules, editing on other platforms ?

More than a conversion is a cover imo

Frog · 24 November 2019, 18:20

@Estrayk : thank you for your explanations. Your reason are logical

DanScott · 24 November 2019, 19:11

Nice conversion.. but to me, the 2nd arpeggio in the pattern sounds wrong (wrong chord) ??

Estrayk · 26 November 2019, 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanScott

Nice conversion.. but to me, the 2nd arpeggio in the pattern sounds wrong (wrong chord) ??

Hmmmm.... are you sure?, the second arpegio is

A#2 059 : A#2 D#3 G-3

When I convert songs and I found this kind of weird arpegios, sometimes I try to change de order (sometimes it works), for example:

F#2 049 : F#2 A#2 D#3

but I tested that and sounds very bad. Paul van der Valk uses a speed for play the arpegios very slow. Protracker cant modify the speed of play arpegios and maybe that is the reason for it sounds different.

If someone is wondering that maybe he uses 4-note arpeggios, that's not the case, I've already checked it by listening to the wave very slowly to make sure he only uses 3 notes.

In the ATARI ST version, I play the arpegios more slowly like the original, and seems sounds better.

Anyway, does anyone else think that the second chords are wrong? Maybe my ear is not as accurate as in the nineties.

24 May 2015, 15:11	#44
mld uade team Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Somewhere beneath North- and Baltic Sea Posts: 71	speaking of buzzing wasps... med.chooseyourwarrior qualifies, heh ;-) I'm listening through your old meds now, Mark. Great tunes btw. Didn't know meds like this existed, the few synth meds I knew were kind of boring. ;-) Hmmh, some Synthtracker and some Synthesis mods are worth to be listened to a second time, imo. And back on topic: I remember I was blown off my chair when I first heard PvdV's Hybris, and I listened to it over and over... Last edited by mld; 24 May 2015 at 18:18.

26 February 2017, 11:30	#49
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	as mp3 file http://worldofmenchi.fr/Amiga/Musics...der%20V1.0.mp3 http://worldofmenchi.fr/Amiga/Musics...%20Success.mp3 http://worldofmenchi.fr/Amiga/Musics...der%20V4.0.mp3 Last edited by s2325; 26 February 2017 at 17:51.

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mutetus Registered User Join Date: May 2015 Location: Helsinki Posts: 12	https://soundcloud.com/mutetus/imploder-4-remix-v2 My version of Imploder 4. Nothing can beat the original though, but I had so much fun making this. Paul van der valk is a god to me You can't hear those kind of genius modulations in any other songs.

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Estrayk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Spain Posts: 511	Sorry for up this old thread but last night I converted HYBRIS ingame music to protracker. Maybe someone can be interested in check the pattern notes and arpegios for make a remix or a modern version. [ Show youtube player ] BONUS : I also made an Atari ST cover coz I was bored. [ Show youtube player ]

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Antiriad_UK OCS forever! Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 418	Ace.

22 November 2019, 14:19	#53
Frog Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,385	very nice conversion. It seems slower than the original hybris ingame music : [ Show youtube player ] Why have you choosed to convert it using the tool protracker on Amiga, there's plenty of others trackers Your motivation about the choice of protracker is the ease of listening to modules, editing on other platforms ?

22 November 2019, 16:53	#55
rsn8887 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,058	Paul van der Valk is indeed a genius. Poing is one of my favorite Amiga games ever!

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Frog Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,385	@Estrayk : thank you for your explanations. Your reason are logical

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DanScott Lemon. / Core Design Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Tier 5 Posts: 1,212	Nice conversion.. but to me, the 2nd arpeggio in the pattern sounds wrong (wrong chord) ??

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