Barbarian (Psygnosis)

alkis21 · 08 August 2002, 09:04

I downloaded it and tried to get it to work on WinUAE, WinFellow (using all sorts of configurations) and my A1200 (using every degrading option I could think of), but I failed. Any tips?

Amiga1992 · 08 August 2002, 09:49

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Originally posted by alkis21
I downloaded it and tried to get it to work on WinUAE, WinFellow (using all sorts of configurations) and my A1200 (using every degrading option I could think of), but I failed. Any tips?

It's gonna be a bitch to make it work in yer A1200, if it works at all. I remember having severe problems to make it run in my A600...

Andreas or Walker are the men to ask when it comes down to lameulator configs

They know their shtuff very well!

Walker · 08 August 2002, 11:15

I don't think Barbarian works with WinUAE, but with WinFellow it's OK. Use an OCS12 config with 1 MB chip mem and it should load just fine. Hit the mouse button a couple of times to get past the titlescreen and the intro.

If you seem to be stuck at a black screen, wait a couple of seconds and then hit the mouse button again.

alkis21 · 08 August 2002, 11:24

Cheers, I'll try it.

Drake1009 · 08 August 2002, 12:49

Doesn't seem to work with a 1.3 rom though. It just shifts back and forth between the intro and title screen ignoring all input.

Swordlord · 22 February 2004, 06:02

Barbarian from Psygnosis is a bitch, indeed. I struggled for 3 days to find the proper configuration.

Here's the one I was able to make it work with:
WINFELLOW
CPU
--instruction set: 68000
-A500 relative speed: 7 MHz
floppy
--enabled just drives 0 and 1 (all other boxes unchecked)
memory
--memory size: -chip: 1024 KB; -Fast: 0 MB; -bogo: 0 KB
--kickstart: -image: kick13.rom; -key: rom.key
display
--resolution: -high color (16 bit); -check full screen
--Agnus blitter: OCS
--blitter speed: original
(the rest of the boxes unchecked and the pixel resolution is up to you)
sound
--sound emulation: play sound
--channels: stereo
--precision: 16 bit
--sample rate: 44100 Hz
--filter: original
--buffer length: 10 ms
(the other boxes unchecked)
For the other options, I don't think it matters what you pick.

You first see the cracker's intro, press left-click, then you see the Psygnosis logo and, after that, the intro.
After a while, the game shows the barbarian (much more impressive than he looks in the actual game) striking and breaking a chain with his sword. Then back to the title screen, back to the above-mentioned screen, back to the title screen, and then the screen briefly goes black and finally shows a still picture of a red dragon in a yellow background. I don't know when the proper time to click exactly is, because I kept clicking the whole time.
Eventually the screen goes black again, but don't despair. Continue clicking.
In my case, I finally got to see the first in-game scene after about 2-3 minutes after I pressed 'Start emulation'. If only a part of the screen is correctly visible, and the other pixelated or dark, don't reset, just move the barbarian around and it will come to. That's what the .adf file that I tried did.

Sorry for the late reply, I'm new here.

Titler · 28 February 2004, 02:15

Hmm, I never had any problem getting this to run under WinUAE;
I've attached one of my configs for you to use; rename it from Default if you don't want to overwrite your own... and don't forget the press both mouse buttons/enter/space/get your cat to dance on the keyboard to advance beyond the screen with the beefy bloke chopping the landscape! If you are still having problems, it may be your .adf; I'll upload mine to The Zone if you need it...

Swordlord · 28 February 2004, 05:06

If you were trying to help me, Titler, thank you. (If the message was intended for alkis21, sorry for butting in.)

I was struggling to find a configuration for WinFellow for quite some time, but I finally succeeded a few days ago. I will surely try your WinUAE configuration, too. Thanks.

What's The Zone? Do they have configurations for all the games there? (That would be awesome...)

Chuckles · 28 February 2004, 08:26

At the top of every page on EAB, you'll find a button in the upper right corner that leads to the Zone. It's just an area where files can be uploaded and downloaded, but they are only retained there for a few days. It's basically just an area we can all use to swap files with each other for any number of reasons.

There is no permanent set of configurations there, and it's rather difficult to keep configs up to date as the config file format changes from time to time. You can obtain a number of basic configs from Back to the Roots that often are very close to what you'll need. I also have about 1500 configs that I'm constantly fiddling with for a lot of games, so if you have problems with any specific title that I've managed to get working, I'll be happy to pass along the settings I used. Others often do the same, and after you've fiddled with settings long enough, you start to get a pretty good feel for what settings you may need to tweak to get most games to work properly.

Swordlord · 28 February 2004, 08:53

Thanks for the offer, Chuckles!
So, can I maybe pm you if I can't figure out a configuration for a particular game, or do I have to go to The Zone?

Chuckles · 28 February 2004, 20:52

Typically I respond to those types of things within a thread when I see the question asked, since other people may also want the answer. PM's are fine too, but that only answers the question for one person. Individual config files can also be attached to the reply in a thread if needed. I usually just indicate in the answer though what the relevant settings are since my config files would have other settings for Kickstart locations, ADF names and locations and even custom screen modes (created using Powerstrip) that might need to be changed. Most of the time it seems like there are only a few settings that people don't have set correctly that cause their problems.

Swordlord · 29 February 2004, 09:17

Oh, I know. I would have used private messaging only as a last resort, I assure you. Whenever I don't get a configuration right, I post a thread here, usually in the 'prb. Games' forum. (For example, I just posted a question about Dragon's Lair -- I don't think I got an answer yet. Did you try those games?)
Thanks!

Enverex · 29 February 2004, 10:00

Worked fine for me no problem, just use an A500 config.

Swordlord · 29 February 2004, 10:15

I tried. I see a screen telling me (in red on black) that, after I beat the dragon, I should swap disk 8 with 6, even though there's no prompt. Then, a nicely coloured cracker's menu, with the options F1 (regular game), F2 (infinite lives) and F3 (watch animation), but then I see a gray screen and the game freezes. It's cracked by ACU.

Swordlord · 29 February 2004, 10:36

Never mind. It works now. I just had to select 'Cycle exact CPU and blitter' instead of 'Fast Copper'.

Dr. Dude · 29 February 2004, 20:09

Thanks guys, this is just what i am looking for

Swordlord · 29 February 2004, 22:55

You're welcome. That's what this forum is for, isn't it?

Chuckles · 01 March 2004, 06:46

It's certainly one of the things that the forum is here for, and by and large it's a very helpful group. I'd have replied to the question about Dragon's Lair, but didn't see it until now. The fact that when you worked out the proper config someone else reading the thread was interested in the same thing is a good example of what I referred to before. We all manage to help each other a little bit from time to time that way.

Swordlord · 01 March 2004, 06:54

Absolutely, yes.

I remember the first time I used WinUAE: the joypad wasn't working, I didn't know different kickstart files would lead to different results, more than half the games I tried weren't working, I had no idea what most of the settings did...

I learned a lot on these forums.

Amiga1992 · 01 March 2004, 12:19

Swordlord, here's the thing why I'm chasing you all around

In this case, if people want to benefit from what you have just discussed here about Dragon's Lair, they might not find it, since when you do a search on the board if the title "barbarian (psygnosis)" shows up they are bound not to check it.

That's why you should try to stay on topic, specilaly in the problems sections. Everyone's questions can benefit others, but only if they can find them easily!

Try to post your findings in the Dragon's Lair thread you created.

08 August 2002, 09:04	#1
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,409	Barbarian (Psygnosis) I downloaded it and tried to get it to work on WinUAE, WinFellow (using all sorts of configurations) and my A1200 (using every degrading option I could think of), but I failed. Any tips?

08 August 2002, 11:15	#3
Walker Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sweden Age: 51 Posts: 595	I don't think Barbarian works with WinUAE, but with WinFellow it's OK. Use an OCS12 config with 1 MB chip mem and it should load just fine. Hit the mouse button a couple of times to get past the titlescreen and the intro. If you seem to be stuck at a black screen, wait a couple of seconds and then hit the mouse button again. Attached Thumbnails

22 February 2004, 06:02	#6
Swordlord Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: T/C Posts: 80	Barbarian from Psygnosis is a bitch, indeed. I struggled for 3 days to find the proper configuration. Here's the one I was able to make it work with: WINFELLOW CPU --instruction set: 68000 -A500 relative speed: 7 MHz floppy --enabled just drives 0 and 1 (all other boxes unchecked) memory --memory size: -chip: 1024 KB; -Fast: 0 MB; -bogo: 0 KB --kickstart: -image: kick13.rom; -key: rom.key display --resolution: -high color (16 bit); -check full screen --Agnus blitter: OCS --blitter speed: original (the rest of the boxes unchecked and the pixel resolution is up to you) sound --sound emulation: play sound --channels: stereo --precision: 16 bit --sample rate: 44100 Hz --filter: original --buffer length: 10 ms (the other boxes unchecked) For the other options, I don't think it matters what you pick. You first see the cracker's intro, press left-click, then you see the Psygnosis logo and, after that, the intro. After a while, the game shows the barbarian (much more impressive than he looks in the actual game) striking and breaking a chain with his sword. Then back to the title screen, back to the above-mentioned screen, back to the title screen, and then the screen briefly goes black and finally shows a still picture of a red dragon in a yellow background. I don't know when the proper time to click exactly is, because I kept clicking the whole time. Eventually the screen goes black again, but don't despair. Continue clicking. In my case, I finally got to see the first in-game scene after about 2-3 minutes after I pressed 'Start emulation'. If only a part of the screen is correctly visible, and the other pixelated or dark, don't reset, just move the barbarian around and it will come to. That's what the .adf file that I tried did. Sorry for the late reply, I'm new here. Last edited by Swordlord; 22 February 2004 at 06:33.

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08 August 2002, 11:24	#4
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,409	Cheers, I'll try it.

08 August 2002, 12:49	#5
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	Doesn't seem to work with a 1.3 rom though. It just shifts back and forth between the intro and title screen ignoring all input.

28 February 2004, 05:06	#8
Swordlord Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: T/C Posts: 80	If you were trying to help me, Titler, thank you. (If the message was intended for alkis21, sorry for butting in.) I was struggling to find a configuration for WinFellow for quite some time, but I finally succeeded a few days ago. I will surely try your WinUAE configuration, too. Thanks. What's The Zone? Do they have configurations for all the games there? (That would be awesome...)

28 February 2004, 08:26	#9
Chuckles The Ancient One Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kansas City/USA Age: 69 Posts: 685	At the top of every page on EAB, you'll find a button in the upper right corner that leads to the Zone. It's just an area where files can be uploaded and downloaded, but they are only retained there for a few days. It's basically just an area we can all use to swap files with each other for any number of reasons. There is no permanent set of configurations there, and it's rather difficult to keep configs up to date as the config file format changes from time to time. You can obtain a number of basic configs from Back to the Roots that often are very close to what you'll need. I also have about 1500 configs that I'm constantly fiddling with for a lot of games, so if you have problems with any specific title that I've managed to get working, I'll be happy to pass along the settings I used. Others often do the same, and after you've fiddled with settings long enough, you start to get a pretty good feel for what settings you may need to tweak to get most games to work properly.

28 February 2004, 08:53	#10
Swordlord Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: T/C Posts: 80	Thanks for the offer, Chuckles! So, can I maybe pm you if I can't figure out a configuration for a particular game, or do I have to go to The Zone?

28 February 2004, 20:52	#11
Chuckles The Ancient One Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kansas City/USA Age: 69 Posts: 685	Typically I respond to those types of things within a thread when I see the question asked, since other people may also want the answer. PM's are fine too, but that only answers the question for one person. Individual config files can also be attached to the reply in a thread if needed. I usually just indicate in the answer though what the relevant settings are since my config files would have other settings for Kickstart locations, ADF names and locations and even custom screen modes (created using Powerstrip) that might need to be changed. Most of the time it seems like there are only a few settings that people don't have set correctly that cause their problems.

29 February 2004, 09:17	#12
Swordlord Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: T/C Posts: 80	Oh, I know. I would have used private messaging only as a last resort, I assure you. Whenever I don't get a configuration right, I post a thread here, usually in the 'prb. Games' forum. (For example, I just posted a question about Dragon's Lair -- I don't think I got an answer yet. Did you try those games?) Thanks!

29 February 2004, 10:00	#13
Enverex Fantasy Man! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,353	Worked fine for me no problem, just use an A500 config.

29 February 2004, 10:15	#14
Swordlord Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: T/C Posts: 80	I tried. I see a screen telling me (in red on black) that, after I beat the dragon, I should swap disk 8 with 6, even though there's no prompt. Then, a nicely coloured cracker's menu, with the options F1 (regular game), F2 (infinite lives) and F3 (watch animation), but then I see a gray screen and the game freezes. It's cracked by ACU.

29 February 2004, 10:36	#15
Swordlord Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: T/C Posts: 80	Never mind. It works now. I just had to select 'Cycle exact CPU and blitter' instead of 'Fast Copper'.

29 February 2004, 20:09	#16
Dr. Dude Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: On Ami World Posts: 500	Thanks guys, this is just what i am looking for

29 February 2004, 22:55	#17
Swordlord Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: T/C Posts: 80	You're welcome. That's what this forum is for, isn't it?

01 March 2004, 06:46	#18
Chuckles The Ancient One Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kansas City/USA Age: 69 Posts: 685	It's certainly one of the things that the forum is here for, and by and large it's a very helpful group. I'd have replied to the question about Dragon's Lair, but didn't see it until now. The fact that when you worked out the proper config someone else reading the thread was interested in the same thing is a good example of what I referred to before. We all manage to help each other a little bit from time to time that way.

01 March 2004, 06:54	#19
Swordlord Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: T/C Posts: 80	Absolutely, yes. I remember the first time I used WinUAE: the joypad wasn't working, I didn't know different kickstart files would lead to different results, more than half the games I tried weren't working, I had no idea what most of the settings did... I learned a lot on these forums.

01 March 2004, 12:19	#20
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,654	Swordlord, here's the thing why I'm chasing you all around In this case, if people want to benefit from what you have just discussed here about Dragon's Lair, they might not find it, since when you do a search on the board if the title "barbarian (psygnosis)" shows up they are bound not to check it. That's why you should try to stay on topic, specilaly in the problems sections. Everyone's questions can benefit others, but only if they can find them easily! Try to post your findings in the Dragon's Lair thread you created.

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