Odd artefacts when turning on A1200

manic23 · 21 July 2013, 13:17

I have an the following System:

Escom Amiga A1200 with 4GB CF hard drive, M1438S Monitor (DBLPAL:High Res) and a Blizzard 1230 IV with FPU and 64MB Fast Ram

For the first 60 or 90 seconds when I first turn on the Miggy from cold, I get odd artefacts on screen, rather than attempt to explain what I see, I have created this short vid.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...een%20Prob.m4v

I don't mean the black bands I mean the small blocky kind of blobs on screen at the beginning of the vid on the Devs, Storage and ADF2FMS folders. Also at the end of the vid on the iGame folder.

Is this normal? It goes after about 60 or so seconds, not sure if it is the monitor or the Miggy. Anyone else seen this before?

voyager · 21 July 2013, 13:32

Did you recap your 1200?

manic23 · 21 July 2013, 13:38

No, but they all look OK

Retrofan · 21 July 2013, 15:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by manic23

..., not sure if it is the monitor or the Miggy. Anyone else seen this before?

Easy to know. Turn the monitor on alone, when it's warm enough, connect the miggy and try. And also on the contrary, first the miggy alone.

bebek · 21 July 2013, 15:59

I would start with caps and then with CXA1145M, drop me a PM if you want this board repaired and refurbished..

manic23 · 21 July 2013, 16:25

Thanks for the replies, one other thing I forgot to mention is that it only shows up the issue when set to DBLPAL, when set to the usual game type low res it does not happen.

demolition · 21 July 2013, 17:41

Definitely not the monitor. It could be a problem with caps as others have mentioned. I guess it could also be a problem with the Lisa chip. Most 1200s have issues like that when you turn the video clock up high enough, but DBLPAL isn't that high. I get something similar on my 1200 when I go to 1024x768 or higher and it has been running for a while.

If it annoys you, I'd start with a recap and take it from there.

Phantomz · 21 July 2013, 18:15

I get the same sort of thing when I first turn my amiga on, goes after a short time, might be something to do with the Lisa chip.

I didn't notice this before I started using my Indivision MK2, currently using HighGFX 1024x768

amigappc · 11 November 2014, 19:45

I have one Escom 1d4 with similar problem. Artefacts appear when Blizzard 1230/IV is connected.

I thought that is Timing issue, but somewhere I read that timing fix does not affect 030 accelerators?

How can I tell if this is caps issue?

Regards,

fitzsteve · 11 November 2014, 19:51

This issue is quite common with screen modes that are stressful to the chipset (such as HighGFX with the Indivision)

For checking your caps, look at the solder joins they should be shiny, dull could mean leakage, some have also reported a fishy smell when turning on your Amiga.

amigappc · 11 November 2014, 20:15

So you think this is not timing issue? How can I find out if this is related to caps or Alice is defective?

fryguy · 11 November 2014, 21:19

http://se.aminet.net/docs/hard/flickerfix.readme

Could be this problem. You wont notice it until you use "High resolution". A friend had this problem on his C= A1200 iirc. I think he used a software fix from aminet

21 July 2013, 13:17	#1
manic23 Only Amiga! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: London / UK Age: 53 Posts: 512	Odd artefacts when turning on A1200 I have an the following System: Escom Amiga A1200 with 4GB CF hard drive, M1438S Monitor (DBLPAL:High Res) and a Blizzard 1230 IV with FPU and 64MB Fast Ram For the first 60 or 90 seconds when I first turn on the Miggy from cold, I get odd artefacts on screen, rather than attempt to explain what I see, I have created this short vid. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...een%20Prob.m4v I don't mean the black bands I mean the small blocky kind of blobs on screen at the beginning of the vid on the Devs, Storage and ADF2FMS folders. Also at the end of the vid on the iGame folder. Is this normal? It goes after about 60 or so seconds, not sure if it is the monitor or the Miggy. Anyone else seen this before? Last edited by manic23; 31 July 2013 at 15:23.

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21 July 2013, 13:32	#2
voyager The show must go on. Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Alkmaar Nederland Posts: 269	Did you recap your 1200?

21 July 2013, 13:38	#3
manic23 Only Amiga! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: London / UK Age: 53 Posts: 512	No, but they all look OK

21 July 2013, 15:59	#5
bebek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Poole UK Posts: 349	I would start with caps and then with CXA1145M, drop me a PM if you want this board repaired and refurbished..

21 July 2013, 16:25	#6
manic23 Only Amiga! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: London / UK Age: 53 Posts: 512	Thanks for the replies, one other thing I forgot to mention is that it only shows up the issue when set to DBLPAL, when set to the usual game type low res it does not happen.

21 July 2013, 17:41	#7
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 44 Posts: 4,190	Definitely not the monitor. It could be a problem with caps as others have mentioned. I guess it could also be a problem with the Lisa chip. Most 1200s have issues like that when you turn the video clock up high enough, but DBLPAL isn't that high. I get something similar on my 1200 when I go to 1024x768 or higher and it has been running for a while. If it annoys you, I'd start with a recap and take it from there.

21 July 2013, 18:15	#8
Phantomz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Age: 51 Posts: 214	I get the same sort of thing when I first turn my amiga on, goes after a short time, might be something to do with the Lisa chip. I didn't notice this before I started using my Indivision MK2, currently using HighGFX 1024x768

11 November 2014, 19:45	#9
amigappc Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Universe Age: 48 Posts: 206	I have one Escom 1d4 with similar problem. Artefacts appear when Blizzard 1230/IV is connected. I thought that is Timing issue, but somewhere I read that timing fix does not affect 030 accelerators? How can I tell if this is caps issue? Regards,

11 November 2014, 19:51	#10
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,685	This issue is quite common with screen modes that are stressful to the chipset (such as HighGFX with the Indivision) For checking your caps, look at the solder joins they should be shiny, dull could mean leakage, some have also reported a fishy smell when turning on your Amiga.

11 November 2014, 20:15	#11
amigappc Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Universe Age: 48 Posts: 206	So you think this is not timing issue? How can I find out if this is related to caps or Alice is defective?

11 November 2014, 21:19	#12
fryguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Skarabörg, Sweden Age: 45 Posts: 1,031	http://se.aminet.net/docs/hard/flickerfix.readme Could be this problem. You wont notice it until you use "High resolution". A friend had this problem on his C= A1200 iirc. I think he used a software fix from aminet

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