FPS Locking Games That Run to Fast

CryptidWorks · 17 January 2021, 05:34

Decided to try to run WHDLoad games on an emulated Amiga 4000 with a 68040 and JIT enabled to see how they'd run on the faster CPU compared to my emulated A1200

As amusing as playing games at super-turbo-speed is I'm curious if there's a way within the Amiga software to lock game speed to get the benefits of the faster hardware mitigating slowdowns in more demanding AGA games while not playing in overddrive that breaks a bunch of stuff

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jotd · 17 January 2021, 09:30

what you're experiencing is a game programming error. You have to set "approximate A1200 speed" to make games run like vanillia A1200.

I've fixed a lot of those in a lot of games (Populous, ...). The explanation is often that the game syncs on vertical beams (all games do that else display would flicker), assuming that it missed one whole beam (making a 25Hz game), when the computer speed makes it NOT miss the beam.

So the game is 50Hz with an assumed 25Hz speed, and it goes twice as fast.

50Hz games don't have this problem, and some 25 or 17 Hz games do things properly by counting the VBLs. But some just do the simplest there is. Examples are numerous.

Lion King is probably one of them. Needs whdload fixing to be played at full speed for loading/init/ and respect game speed.

CryptidWorks · 17 January 2021, 10:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

what you're experiencing is a game programming error. You have to set "approximate A1200 speed" to make games run like vanillia A1200.

I've fixed a lot of those in a lot of games (Populous, ...). The explanation is often that the game syncs on vertical beams (all games do that else display would flicker), assuming that it missed one whole beam (making a 25Hz game), when the computer speed makes it NOT miss the beam.

So the game is 50Hz with an assumed 25Hz speed, and it goes twice as fast.

50Hz games don't have this problem, and some 25 or 17 Hz games do things properly by counting the VBLs. But some just do the simplest there is. Examples are numerous.

Lion King is probably one of them. Needs whdload fixing to be played at full speed for loading/init/ and respect game speed.

It actually works fine (abet, with some level of slowdown) on the emulated A1200 so it seems to be a bug unique to running it on an A4000 CPU

jotd · 17 January 2021, 11:21

If JIT is set, games really behave oddly. No real amiga can match that speed, and too much fixing is needed in that mode. I'm set on "fastest possible" no JIT.

CryptidWorks · 17 January 2021, 23:13

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Originally Posted by jotd

If JIT is set, games really behave oddly. No real amiga can match that speed, and too much fixing is needed in that mode. I'm set on "fastest possible" no JIT.

Made the gameplay itself run at normal speed as far as I can tell but the cutscenes in that game still turbo up so fast they're basically auto-skipping

17 January 2021, 05:34	#1
CryptidWorks Registered User Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Iowa, USA Age: 31 Posts: 57	FPS Locking Games That Run to Fast Decided to try to run WHDLoad games on an emulated Amiga 4000 with a 68040 and JIT enabled to see how they'd run on the faster CPU compared to my emulated A1200 As amusing as playing games at super-turbo-speed is I'm curious if there's a way within the Amiga software to lock game speed to get the benefits of the faster hardware mitigating slowdowns in more demanding AGA games while not playing in overddrive that breaks a bunch of stuff [ Show youtube player ]

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17 January 2021, 09:30	#2
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	what you're experiencing is a game programming error. You have to set "approximate A1200 speed" to make games run like vanillia A1200. I've fixed a lot of those in a lot of games (Populous, ...). The explanation is often that the game syncs on vertical beams (all games do that else display would flicker), assuming that it missed one whole beam (making a 25Hz game), when the computer speed makes it NOT miss the beam. So the game is 50Hz with an assumed 25Hz speed, and it goes twice as fast. 50Hz games don't have this problem, and some 25 or 17 Hz games do things properly by counting the VBLs. But some just do the simplest there is. Examples are numerous. Lion King is probably one of them. Needs whdload fixing to be played at full speed for loading/init/ and respect game speed.

17 January 2021, 11:21	#4
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	If JIT is set, games really behave oddly. No real amiga can match that speed, and too much fixing is needed in that mode. I'm set on "fastest possible" no JIT.

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