Civilization AGA German - WHDLOAD corrupt save game files?

OSH · 05 July 2018, 09:06

Well... I started playing Civ AGA German version under WHDLoad (Emperor level). In the beginning everything worked OK. But approximately on about 1000 BC something went wrong. After ending my turn I saw very weird behaviour. You can see this attached. Moreover, I couldn't build roads, because all squares had railroads (!!!) I didn't developed it yet though. They were not visible, but when I go on this square, I saw "Eisenbahn" (RailRoad). I didn't care and continuing playing. But on about 140 BC game will definitely crash under WHDLOad. I tried to reinstall it (without WHDLoad) and copied save game files, but now I see red GURU after ending my turn on 140 BC. Now I desperately want to repair these save game file because I spent over 6 hours in the night to win this bloody Emperor level...
I played on my CD-32. Attached screenshots and savegame. Can somebody check this?

daxb · 05 July 2018, 12:20

You should save more often then only one time in 6 hours.

If the file format of save game is known it might be possible to repair it in reasonable time. If not, it would be better to spend another 6 hours to play it again but with more often saves.

OSH · 05 July 2018, 15:21

No. I saved quite often. Civ saves automatically after each 1000 years, but I saved sometimes after 200 years. I haven't any idea about save game format for Amiga...

meynaf · 05 July 2018, 16:17

Civ1's save game format is only partially known. Not enough to repair a damaged save i'm afraid.
The fact it seems to fail at a fixed date such as 1000BC makes me think it might be a poorly cracked version. And if it is the case, things can only become worse as you play...

OSH · 05 July 2018, 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

Civ1's save game format is only partially known. Not enough to repair a damaged save i'm afraid.
The fact it seems to fail at a fixed date such as 1000BC makes me think it might be a poorly cracked version. And if it is the case, things can only become worse as you play...

No, it's definitely not the cracked version. It's an original German version of Civilization AGA, which was found couple years ago on EAB and uploaded in TheZone. But WHDLoad remove copying protection self, so...

meynaf · 05 July 2018, 17:15

Normally this game does not need Whdload, it's directly HD installable. If you can get past the protection in the normal way, perhaps you can try this method.
I played Civi (ECS version) many times including emperor level and never had such a problem ; i know a few issues but nothing like this.
Have you successfully played other, easier games with this program ?

daxb · 05 July 2018, 17:26

Did you tried the original Civ AGA version with/without http://aminet.net/game/patch/CivAGApatch.txt ?

OSH · 05 July 2018, 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by daxb

Did you tried the original Civ AGA version with/without http://aminet.net/game/patch/CivAGApatch.txt ?

No, I'm not sure it will work with German version. Mine is preinstalled with WHDLoad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

Normally this game does not need Whdload, it's directly HD installable. If you can get past the protection in the normal way, perhaps you can try this method.
I played Civi (ECS version) many times including emperor level and never had such a problem ; i know a few issues but nothing like this.
Have you successfully played other, easier games with this program ?

No, in the past I played only English version...

meynaf · 05 July 2018, 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by OSH

No, in the past I played only English version...

Then perhaps you can try an easier, test game, to see if it can be reproduced.

OSH · 10 July 2018, 00:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

Then perhaps you can try an easier, test game, to see if it can be reproduced.

Well, I will modify my save game about 1000 BC, to see, or this error appears once again...

EDIT - I started new game. I played til 840 BC. Yesterday I loaded save game - the same situation. completely corrupted save game files...

meynaf · 10 July 2018, 09:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by OSH

EDIT - I started new game. I played til 840 BC. Yesterday I loaded save game - the same situation. completely corrupted save game files...

So it's the game version you use that's buggy in some way.
It seems the next thing you have to do is to report that problem to whoever did that install.

OSH · 10 July 2018, 10:19

Actually, I want to check, these version is really genuine. More years ago somebody uploaded in TheZone! German AGA version. I haven't any access to this version now, but I'm really curious - is the WHDLoad installer issue or the game itself?

meynaf · 10 July 2018, 10:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by OSH

Actually, I want to check, these version is really genuine. More years ago somebody uploaded in TheZone! German AGA version. I haven't any access to this version now, but I'm really curious - is the WHDLoad installer issue or the game itself?

Run it directly (without whdload) and you will know.

dlfrsilver · 10 July 2018, 15:45

Meynaf, i think this game is maybe checksum protected. Because another guy, a french guy reported some years ago that his saves in civilization had a problem.

this should be investigated.

meynaf · 10 July 2018, 16:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Meynaf, i think this game is maybe checksum protected. Because another guy, a french guy reported some years ago that his saves in civilization had a problem.

this should be investigated.

That's very possible, that's why i suggested to run it without whdload, i.e. unmodified.

OSH · 10 July 2018, 21:31

Well, I will! And report back!

Hewitson · 12 July 2018, 10:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by OSH

No, it's definitely not the cracked version. It's an original German version of Civilization AGA, which was found couple years ago on EAB and uploaded in TheZone. But WHDLoad remove copying protection self, so...

So, in other words, it's cracked.

OSH · 12 July 2018, 10:55

I installed this version without WHDLoad and I have copy protection question. I saved and after loading everything is ok (for now)...
And German AGA version can be patched too to avoid screen fading!

05 July 2018, 15:21	#3
OSH Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 142	No. I saved quite often. Civ saves automatically after each 1000 years, but I saved sometimes after 200 years. I haven't any idea about save game format for Amiga... Last edited by OSH; 05 July 2018 at 16:02.

12 July 2018, 10:55	#18
OSH Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 142	I installed this version without WHDLoad and I have copy protection question. I saved and after loading everything is ok (for now)... And German AGA version can be patched too to avoid screen fading! Last edited by OSH; 12 July 2018 at 15:15.

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05 July 2018, 12:20	#2
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	You should save more often then only one time in 6 hours. If the file format of save game is known it might be possible to repair it in reasonable time. If not, it would be better to spend another 6 hours to play it again but with more often saves.

05 July 2018, 16:17	#4
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,323	Civ1's save game format is only partially known. Not enough to repair a damaged save i'm afraid. The fact it seems to fail at a fixed date such as 1000BC makes me think it might be a poorly cracked version. And if it is the case, things can only become worse as you play...

05 July 2018, 17:15	#6
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,323	Normally this game does not need Whdload, it's directly HD installable. If you can get past the protection in the normal way, perhaps you can try this method. I played Civi (ECS version) many times including emperor level and never had such a problem ; i know a few issues but nothing like this. Have you successfully played other, easier games with this program ?

05 July 2018, 17:26	#7
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	Did you tried the original Civ AGA version with/without http://aminet.net/game/patch/CivAGApatch.txt ?

10 July 2018, 10:19	#12
OSH Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 142	Actually, I want to check, these version is really genuine. More years ago somebody uploaded in TheZone! German AGA version. I haven't any access to this version now, but I'm really curious - is the WHDLoad installer issue or the game itself?

10 July 2018, 15:45	#14
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	Meynaf, i think this game is maybe checksum protected. Because another guy, a french guy reported some years ago that his saves in civilization had a problem. this should be investigated.

10 July 2018, 21:31	#16
OSH Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 142	Well, I will! And report back!

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