whdload blobz

Jimbo · 09 September 2010, 12:09

Hey guys.

Having an issue with whdload blobz, it crashes in random places. I made a dump and have attached it here for your viewing pleasure. Real A1200, specs are in my sig.

Thanks

Jimbo · 10 September 2010, 15:02

Anyone of the guys who downloaded the above spotted anything?

Or does anyone have a preinstalled version that works?

Can only get to 2nd/3rd level on mine. Shame cause the game rocks

TCD · 10 September 2010, 23:18

Just tried the zoned version and it works with a 'plain' WB 3.1 install on WinUAE with a 020, 2 MB Chip and 8 MB Fast config. Well, at least level 1-3 can be finished and 1-5 starts fine that way

Jimbo · 10 September 2010, 23:42

Hey

Thanks for some testing TCD. As we were talking in irc I tried on e-uae with same specs as TCD on winuae, played without a problem. I then tried e-uae with my real miggy specs and got a crash going towards level 5. On my real miggy it crashes everytime between level 3-4. Real miggy specs are in my sig.

Hope this helps someone, maybe its the 030 that is causing this?

Abaddon · 11 September 2010, 00:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Just tried the zoned version and it works with a 'plain' WB 3.1 install on WinUAE with a 020, 2 MB Chip and 8 MB Fast config. Well, at least level 1-3 can be finished and 1-5 starts fine that way

A good test with WinUAE is using the 040, disable JIT and enable MMU. This will usually show the access faults.

TCD · 11 September 2010, 08:05

Thanks for the hint Abaddon

That config also works past level 3. Will ask Jimbo later and try to set the same config as his real Amiga.

Edit : Just tried it with 030, 64 MB Z3 Fast and 68881 FPU (taken from Jimbo's sig). Still no crash up to level 1-7...

StingRay · 11 September 2010, 11:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abaddon

A good test with WinUAE is using the 040, disable JIT and enable MMU. This will usually show the access faults.

But it still won't show any cache related problems.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Edit : Just tried it with 030, 64 MB Z3 Fast and 68881 FPU (taken from Jimbo's sig). Still no crash up to level 1-7...

Doesn't mean anything since UAE is not a real Amiga. The cache is not emulated and thus it is perfectly possible for a game to work fine on UAE while it doesn't work on a real Amiga.

Jimbo · 11 September 2010, 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

But it still won't show any cache related problems.

Doesn't mean anything since UAE is not a real Amiga. The cache is not emulated and thus it is perfectly possible for a game to work fine on UAE while it doesn't work on a real Amiga.

StingRay is there anything I can do on my real machine to get more details on why its crashing? I thought about running snoopdos at the same time, but then thought I doubt that would help.

musashi5150 · 11 September 2010, 13:03

No, that wouldn't help Jimbo. Have you tried sticking the NOCACHE tooltype in there and giving it a whirl? Might help if it is a cache related problem.

Jimbo · 11 September 2010, 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by musashi5150

No, that wouldn't help Jimbo. Have you tried sticking the NOCACHE tooltype in there and giving it a whirl? Might help if it is a cache related problem.

Thanks for this tip. When I get back later I will give this ago and update the thread.

musashi5150 · 11 September 2010, 14:24

Good stuff. I'm sure you will find one of these outcomes:

1) Magically fixes everything.
2) Doesn't fix anything and makes it slow as hell.
3) Doesn't make any difference.

Jimbo · 11 September 2010, 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by musashi5150

Good stuff. I'm sure you will find one of these outcomes:

1) Magically fixes everything.
2) Doesn't fix anything and makes it slow as hell.
3) Doesn't make any difference.

Hey

Thanks for trying, the answer for me was 3)

Cheers

Retro1234 · 11 September 2010, 18:21

Whats the error message?
Anyway does the game work ok using its own HD install?

Jimbo · 11 September 2010, 18:36

Hey

The error is:

Code:

Exception "TRAP #0" ($80)
at $6BF34A14 (Task 'Initial CLI', ExpMem $E2A14) occured

Hmm wonder if I should try with fastmem off?

Also I don't think the disks HD install actually works, I tried this but it did nothing, may have been another reason for whdload, but I might try to just copy all the files across manually and see what it does.

I will try without fastmem and by moving the files across from the actual disks.

Cheers

Psygore · 11 September 2010, 18:56

Could you try with the lastest whdload and did you use MMU option ?

Jimbo · 11 September 2010, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psygore

Could you try with the lastest whdload and did you use MMU option ?

Hi

Thanks for your help. That version of whdload does exactly the same thing. Not sure about MMU? I just added MMU as a tooltype but when running blobz this then makes the machine restart.

Hope this can help

Jimbo · 15 September 2010, 21:00

Can anybody else please test this on a real A1200 please?

StingRay · 15 September 2010, 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Can anybody else please test this on a real A1200 please?

I tried it on my A4060 and played a few levels. Worked fine, no problems.

Jimbo · 16 September 2010, 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

I tried it on my A4060 and played a few levels. Worked fine, no problems.

thanks for testing StingRay. I take it you used the version I stuck in the zone? If not could you zone yours pls.

If so I guess it's something my side....

Mad-Matt · 16 September 2010, 14:09

I just finished trying on my A1200 BPPC 040, 6 levels, and seems to be going ok. I quit and restarted and got some weird graphic annomaly going through the centre of the screen, but game played ok.

10 September 2010, 23:18	#3
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,522	Just tried the zoned version and it works with a 'plain' WB 3.1 install on WinUAE with a 020, 2 MB Chip and 8 MB Fast config. Well, at least level 1-3 can be finished and 1-5 starts fine that way Last edited by TCD; 10 September 2010 at 23:43. Reason: Added a s

11 September 2010, 08:05	#6
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,522	Thanks for the hint Abaddon That config also works past level 3. Will ask Jimbo later and try to set the same config as his real Amiga. Edit : Just tried it with 030, 64 MB Z3 Fast and 68881 FPU (taken from Jimbo's sig). Still no crash up to level 1-7... Last edited by TCD; 11 September 2010 at 08:21.

11 September 2010, 18:36	#14
Jimbo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Colchester Essex Age: 44 Posts: 822	Hey The error is: Code: Exception "TRAP #0" ($80) at $6BF34A14 (Task 'Initial CLI', ExpMem $E2A14) occured Hmm wonder if I should try with fastmem off? Also I don't think the disks HD install actually works, I tried this but it did nothing, may have been another reason for whdload, but I might try to just copy all the files across manually and see what it does. I will try without fastmem and by moving the files across from the actual disks. Cheers

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10 September 2010, 15:02	#2
Jimbo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Colchester Essex Age: 44 Posts: 822	Anyone of the guys who downloaded the above spotted anything? Or does anyone have a preinstalled version that works? Can only get to 2nd/3rd level on mine. Shame cause the game rocks

10 September 2010, 23:42	#4
Jimbo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Colchester Essex Age: 44 Posts: 822	Hey Thanks for some testing TCD. As we were talking in irc I tried on e-uae with same specs as TCD on winuae, played without a problem. I then tried e-uae with my real miggy specs and got a crash going towards level 5. On my real miggy it crashes everytime between level 3-4. Real miggy specs are in my sig. Hope this helps someone, maybe its the 030 that is causing this?

11 September 2010, 13:03	#9
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 42 Posts: 2,351	No, that wouldn't help Jimbo. Have you tried sticking the NOCACHE tooltype in there and giving it a whirl? Might help if it is a cache related problem.

11 September 2010, 14:24	#11
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 42 Posts: 2,351	Good stuff. I'm sure you will find one of these outcomes: 1) Magically fixes everything. 2) Doesn't fix anything and makes it slow as hell. 3) Doesn't make any difference.

11 September 2010, 18:21	#13
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Whats the error message? Anyway does the game work ok using its own HD install?

11 September 2010, 18:56	#15
Psygore Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: France Posts: 491	Could you try with the lastest whdload and did you use MMU option ?

15 September 2010, 21:00	#17
Jimbo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Colchester Essex Age: 44 Posts: 822	Can anybody else please test this on a real A1200 please?

16 September 2010, 14:09	#20
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,846	I just finished trying on my A1200 BPPC 040, 6 levels, and seems to be going ok. I quit and restarted and got some weird graphic annomaly going through the centre of the screen, but game played ok.

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