Is there any point to a CD-ROM drive with an A1200? - Page 2

Korodny · 21 February 2021, 17:21

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Originally Posted by Amiga4000

It works fine as the Poseidon USB stack handles CDDA.

I know. I was referring potential issues with the USB stack, if a game isn't all that multitasking friendly (as I assume at least some CD32 games would'nt be).

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Originally Posted by Amiga4000

AmigaKit still sells Rapid Road for A1200......

They might list it as "in stock" - that doesn't necessarily mean it is (I don't know). Plus it's utter crap, from what I hear

Amiga4000 · 21 February 2021, 17:36

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Originally Posted by Korodny

Plus it's utter crap, from what I hear

No, it's actually BRILLIANT! Poseidon software works pretty much flawlessly. IMO, if there's one mod to make to your A1200, it's USB! i.e., don't want to install or load your A1200 up with games or software, just to try out? Throw it on a stick... don't like the software... delete it! Pop some MP3s on a stick just to check 'em out! Want some software from the web FAST? Download from your Win machine a transfer immediately! Also, you can buy dirt cheap USB to WiFi & ethernet adapters too (they work depending on the chipset & slow but work well enough to DL stuff from AmiNet and WHDownload - and you would still have to install a TCP/IP stack). When I got my A1200 Magic Pack back in 2010, I had it on the internet with an hour with just the software that came with it (after installing a HDD - and some other junk - okay, that might be an exageration). Now, to be fair, I have some fairly decent accelerators in my A1200's. I REALLY wish that someone would come up with USB hardware for 68K based Apple MACs!

Korodny · 21 February 2021, 18:49

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Originally Posted by Amiga4000

No, it's actually BRILLIANT! [...] Throw it on a stick...

I wasn't dissing USB in general, I was talking about the quality of the Rapid Road hardware. Don't hotplug things into your Rapid Road or there's a very good chance it might die.

On an A1200 there's much cheaper options for network or removable mass storage devices, I was never tempted by USB. But I get the because-I-can! angle and we're way off-topic anyway

Amiga4000 · 21 February 2021, 19:47

........... I digress my good man.

Aardvark · 21 February 2021, 21:10

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Originally Posted by Amiga4000

It works fine as the Poseidon USB stack handles CDDA. In some cases even the audio is played thru Paula from USB on some CD games such as Inherit the Earth - Quest for the Orb (always wondered how this game was able to do that - I looked and it has something to do with the audio file type).

The CD version of Inherit the Earth doesn't have any CDDA, it's all files.

Amiga4000 · 21 February 2021, 21:15

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Originally Posted by Aardvark

The CD version of Inherit the Earth doesn't have any CDDA, it's all files.

Ahhhh, well that 'spains it. Couldn't remember.

outlawal2 · 22 February 2021, 20:46

I mount CD drives on all of my Amigas, it is the 2nd thing I do right after OS install. Why? Because I have copied every driver and application I have onto one CDROM to rule them all and it allows me to install everything off of that single CDROM Disc.

For my money I do it for consistency and ease but then again I tinker a LOT with my Amigas and am pretty much constantly re-installing the OS for some reason or other.

activist · 22 February 2021, 23:32

The CD32 version of Disposable Hero sounds 10 times better than the 1200 version (win uae). So if I could emulate that version on my real 1200, with all the audio, with an external CD drive, I'd be happy and would be worth it for me.

AMike · 22 February 2021, 23:54

I use for CD32 Emulation an OverdriveCD from Archos - was also sold in the UK as Zappo.

Last year I collected many infos about the drive - you can find it @a1k.org
https://translate.google.com/transla...threads/76242/

S0ulA55a551n · 23 February 2021, 14:02

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Originally Posted by AMike

I use for CD32 Emulation an OverdriveCD from Archos - was also sold in the UK as Zappo.

Last year I collected many infos about the drive - you can find it @a1k.org
https://translate.google.com/transla...threads/76242/

I had one of these , bought in uk and was was labelled Archos. Brilliant bit off kit. Sold it though long time ago, well swapped it.

Wachi · 23 February 2021, 22:44

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Originally Posted by activist

The CD32 version of Disposable Hero sounds 10 times better than the 1200 version (win uae). So if I could emulate that version on my real 1200, with all the audio, with an external CD drive, I'd be happy and would be worth it for me.

Disposable Hero works perfectly with the CD32 emulation on a 1200.

Firthy2002 · 23 February 2021, 23:19

If you want to run CD games or use Amiga CD-ROMs (magazine discs and some compilation discs sometimes have interesting stuff that might not be found elsewhere) then it is worth the investment.

Any other traditional uses have more or less been superseded by better alternative methods.

activist · 27 February 2021, 02:26

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Originally Posted by Wachi

Disposable Hero works perfectly with the CD32 emulation on a 1200

Great. Can you describe your cd rom setup? I would like to try and get that running.

Wachi · 27 February 2021, 12:40

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Originally Posted by activist

Great. Can you describe your cd rom setup? I would like to try and get that running.

I have a Matshita dvd-rom sr-8178 Ata Device. It is a slim reader with IDE interface, you will need an adapter if you want to use this type of slim units.
It is connected to the 1200 controller with FASTIDE A1200 ADAPTER FOR 4XIDE INTERFACE
And the emulator I use is the one that comes with IDE-FIX.

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activist · 28 February 2021, 02:32

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Originally Posted by Wachi

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that sounds great, thanks.
How are you getting cdda + amiga audio out/mixed with that setup?

Wachi · 28 February 2021, 09:12

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Originally Posted by activist

that sounds great, thanks.
How are you getting cdda + amiga audio out/mixed with that setup?

I'm not a connoisseur, but you can't directly mix the two audio signals because you could damage your Amiga. Apparently you had to put some kind of resistance or passive audio mixing.

I solved it with a plate that I bought a long time ago and now I don't think you can find it unless I have the knowledge to make one.
https://bigbookofamigahardware.com/b...t.aspx?id=1968

I think something like this could be worth it, but it is already another element that occupies and also needs power.

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/10050...t_url=https://

crazyc · 28 February 2021, 10:42

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Originally Posted by activist

that sounds great, thanks.

How are you getting cdda + amiga audio out/mixed with that setup?

I asked a.mi.goun on amibay to create a simple mixer for me that does what you want.
https://www.amibay.com/entry.php?381...-6-6)-CD-Sound

I had looked for some of the already made solutions that were around previously but couldn't find any available.

(Posted this from tapatalk and not sure if that link works, but its just to the most recent post on my amibay blog which you can get to via the amibay front page)

Wachi · 28 February 2021, 16:26

This is a very good solution, how could I get one?

crazyc · 28 February 2021, 17:31

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Originally Posted by Wachi

This is a very good solution, how could I get one?

I believe it is a quite a basic thing to make, however I have no skills and very little knowledge and so I asked a.mi.goun on amibay if he could make something.
He has a thread selling all sorts of useful cables although this wasn't listed so I dropped him a PM with my request and he very kindly came up with what is in the picture.
That would be my suggestion if you don't want to make it yourself.

Ulysses13 · 09 June 2021, 07:30

After the pain of making all the floppies and installing AmigaOS 3.2 I think I can suddenly see at least one good reason for a CD-ROM drive!

22 February 2021, 23:54	#29
AMike Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: near Vienna/Austria Posts: 389	I use for CD32 Emulation an OverdriveCD from Archos - was also sold in the UK as Zappo. Last year I collected many infos about the drive - you can find it @a1k.org https://translate.google.com/transla...threads/76242/ Attached Thumbnails

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outlawal2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 43	I mount CD drives on all of my Amigas, it is the 2nd thing I do right after OS install. Why? Because I have copied every driver and application I have onto one CDROM to rule them all and it allows me to install everything off of that single CDROM Disc. For my money I do it for consistency and ease but then again I tinker a LOT with my Amigas and am pretty much constantly re-installing the OS for some reason or other.

22 February 2021, 23:32	#28
activist Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Dublin Ireland Posts: 46	The CD32 version of Disposable Hero sounds 10 times better than the 1200 version (win uae). So if I could emulate that version on my real 1200, with all the audio, with an external CD drive, I'd be happy and would be worth it for me.

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Wachi Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Madrid Posts: 141	This is a very good solution, how could I get one?

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