Getting Simon The Sorcerer CD32 to run from an A1200 with HD?

Legerdemain · 28 September 2006, 22:38

Thing is, back in the days I know I got the CD32 version to run from HD... but, as of today I can't get it to work.

No matter what I try, the game starts to load, shows a black screen, then crasches. I have tried it both with and without my Blizzard 1230... tried increasing the stack... tried disabling the fastmem... tried to run it from a clean shell... (boot with no startup-sequence) both with and without having started setpatch...

The setup I am trying to run the game on looks as follows: A1200 / Blizzard 1230 / 50Mhz + MMU / 16MB / 40GB 2.5" / 3.1 ROM...

Any sugesstions?

cooldude · 29 September 2006, 11:57

Hi Legerdemain!

Similar problem here

I can get it to work but Simon won't talk

To get it to work from CD do this.

Use early startup & boot with no startup-sequence.

Type the following:-

CD CD32_Test:
Assign c: CD0:
Setpatch QUIET
Runit2

It plays music & Sound effects but no talking.

If running from HD:-

Assign CD32_Test: to your directory
CD CD32_Test:
Assign C: CD32_Test:
Setpatch Quiet
Runit2

I DID have it talking at one stage but can't remember what I did

Seeya

Legerdemain · 29 September 2006, 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooldude

I can get it to work but Simon won't talk

Weird. I had no such problems... when I got it working some years ago... I'll try your way of getting it to work today or on sunday... and then I'll get back to you.

Ironclaw · 29 September 2006, 17:47

When playing this game not long ago I couldn't get it to run from a HD at all (in winuae)... for most games, it's enough to just put the files on the harddrive.. but not with Simon CD32.. that's why I made a thread asking how to save cd32 games (using nvr files).. otherwise if it would have worked from harddrive for me, I would have used quicksaves...

Didn't try so hard anyway.. just copied the files.. didn't assign anything so....

Remember only getting a red screen when running it from a harddrive.

spanner · 13 July 2012, 17:39

Sorry I know this is a old post but is there any new way to get the CD32 version to boot from A1200..?

FOL · 13 July 2012, 18:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanner

Sorry I know this is a old post but is there any new way to get the CD32 version to boot from A1200..?

I run it through the squirrel cd32 emulator on my A1200, but if you dont have a drive, you could us the Commodore cd32 emu and iso mounter.
I have had Microcosm running this way perfectly. Will have another play with the Commodore emulator and post a guide when I get chance.

roy bates · 13 July 2012, 18:25

hey fol, wasent this game a bit of a problem if it was run from cd at over 2x speed?

spanner · 13 July 2012, 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

I run it through the squirrel cd32 emulator on my A1200, but if you dont have a drive, you could us the Commodore cd32 emu and iso mounter.
I have had Microcosm running this way perfectly. Will have another play with the Commodore emulator and post a guide when I get chance.

No I don't have a CD drive but hard drive.
The Commodore Emulator this is the first time I have heard of it,more info when you get the chance..

FOL · 13 July 2012, 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by roy bates

hey fol, wasent this game a bit of a problem if it was run from cd at over 2x speed?

Nope, I used to leave my drive run at 48x, every game ran fine.
Now I got that wolnycd working, my A1200 is very very quite as 2x,

.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanner

No I don't have a CD drive but hard drive.
The Commodore Emulator this is the first time I have heard of it,more info when you get the chance..

SimCD32, its part of the CD32Devkit.
It allows you to create a bootable cd32 emulator and launch an iso image on your HDD.
I didnt do this, I tweaked it to my own needs as I just wanted to play microcosm from HDD.

They created it, as back in the day it was to costly to make discs. So they would test them first as images on A1200's and A4000's.

You know what, you have just given a crazy whacky idea,

.
More to follow on this.

spanner · 14 July 2012, 02:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

Nope, I used to leave my drive run at 48x, every game ran fine.
Now I got that wolnycd working, my A1200 is very very quite as 2x,

.

SimCD32, its part of the CD32Devkit.
It allows you to create a bootable cd32 emulator and launch an iso image on your HDD.
I didnt do this, I tweaked it to my own needs as I just wanted to play microcosm from HDD.

They created it, as back in the day it was to costly to make discs. So they would test them first as images on A1200's and A4000's.
You know what, you have just given a crazy whacky idea,

.
More to follow on this.

Ok that sound interesting..looking forward to it.

spanner · 11 June 2015, 22:05

Hi me again(Years later..lol),I have the simon.iso on my HD and it just shows a black screen,I got this working but removed the orignal iso (had it working but can't remember how)and just made this one with imgburn..

It loads on my HD on WinUAE,If I put it in my A1200 it has a black screen werid..?? what the best iso for simon or whats the best app to copy the disc to iso..?

spanner · 12 June 2015, 14:07

Noone have any ideas then..??

Werid thing is that Microcosm works fine and CD200 Games Complation too.

FOL · 12 June 2015, 14:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanner

Noone have any ideas then..??

Not when we are all in work,

.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanner

Werid thing is that Microcosm works fine and CD200 Games Complation too.

There's proberly something it doesn't like about setup.
Is simCD32 running setpatch? before booting ISO. I know some games dont like the AGA being enabled.

28 September 2006, 22:38	#1
Legerdemain Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Skåne / Sweden Posts: 259	Getting Simon The Sorcerer CD32 to run from an A1200 with HD? Thing is, back in the days I know I got the CD32 version to run from HD... but, as of today I can't get it to work. No matter what I try, the game starts to load, shows a black screen, then crasches. I have tried it both with and without my Blizzard 1230... tried increasing the stack... tried disabling the fastmem... tried to run it from a clean shell... (boot with no startup-sequence) both with and without having started setpatch... The setup I am trying to run the game on looks as follows: A1200 / Blizzard 1230 / 50Mhz + MMU / 16MB / 40GB 2.5" / 3.1 ROM... Any sugesstions?

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29 September 2006, 11:57	#2
cooldude Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 112	Hi Legerdemain! Similar problem here I can get it to work but Simon won't talk To get it to work from CD do this. Use early startup & boot with no startup-sequence. Type the following:- CD CD32_Test: Assign c: CD0: Setpatch QUIET Runit2 It plays music & Sound effects but no talking. If running from HD:- Assign CD32_Test: to your directory CD CD32_Test: Assign C: CD32_Test: Setpatch Quiet Runit2 I DID have it talking at one stage but can't remember what I did Seeya

29 September 2006, 17:47	#4
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	When playing this game not long ago I couldn't get it to run from a HD at all (in winuae)... for most games, it's enough to just put the files on the harddrive.. but not with Simon CD32.. that's why I made a thread asking how to save cd32 games (using nvr files).. otherwise if it would have worked from harddrive for me, I would have used quicksaves... Didn't try so hard anyway.. just copied the files.. didn't assign anything so.... Remember only getting a red screen when running it from a harddrive.

13 July 2012, 17:39	#5
spanner none Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: None Posts: 322	Sorry I know this is a old post but is there any new way to get the CD32 version to boot from A1200..?

13 July 2012, 18:25	#7
roy bates Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: birmingham Age: 55 Posts: 2,827	hey fol, wasent this game a bit of a problem if it was run from cd at over 2x speed?

11 June 2015, 22:05	#11
spanner none Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: None Posts: 322	Hi me again(Years later..lol),I have the simon.iso on my HD and it just shows a black screen,I got this working but removed the orignal iso (had it working but can't remember how)and just made this one with imgburn.. It loads on my HD on WinUAE,If I put it in my A1200 it has a black screen werid..?? what the best iso for simon or whats the best app to copy the disc to iso..?

12 June 2015, 14:07	#12
spanner none Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: None Posts: 322	Noone have any ideas then..?? Werid thing is that Microcosm works fine and CD200 Games Complation too.

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