Help please connecting to internet with Prism2 PCMCIA - Page 3

chocsplease · 14 February 2017, 19:56

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Originally Posted by Sir_Lucas

I don't know that. I've got this card and it works all right with WPA/TKIP. However, you might need to add cardreset and cardpatch in your Startup-sequence.

http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/CardPatch
http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/CardReset

Unpack these archives and copy them to your SYS:C drawer. Next, add these two lines in your S-s.

C:CardPatch
run >NIL: C:CardReset TICKS 50

Many thanks for the suggestions, sadly I have already tried this and the card still stalls before it scans for wifi networks.

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Originally Posted by Sir_Lucas

Cards won't slow down your router if you set it up to B/G/N mode. I don't know your router, so it's hard for me to say. Have a look inside and tell me if it's possible to set it up like that. I have it set it up like that and nothing slows down as my Amigas all use B WPA2/AES PCMCIA WIFI cards, Macbook Pro uses N network same as Mac Mini. Lenovo x230 and x61 both use G network.

My router can run b/g or n, it can also run wpa/wpa2 so with luck your cards will work, though to be honest I am rather frustrated with wifi cards at the moment. So I looked around on amazon and found this... https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TL-...link+tl-wr802n

It arrived today, a real faf to get working I had to spend 2 hours with the tp-link online support team, and this was getting it to work with a pc... ugh. However once it was working, I just plugged my Amiga's wired card in and could connect to the internet straight away.

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Originally Posted by Sir_Lucas

Check IBrowse 2.4 and Aweb 68000 suggested in my previous post. They both should work fine for you. Let me know if you encounter any problems, I'll gladly help.

Good to say that both work, neither is great at rendering modern web sites, but they do their best. Shame you cannot buy an IBrowse key anymore and I have no idea if the devs will ever release Browse 3.

I would now like to see if I can get access to shared network drives (I know I need Samba and smb) there is a good looking guide - here https://sambaforamigaos.wordpress.co...miga-overview/ but, like many websites the links to the Samba 2.2.5 Base files and Samba 2.2.5 68K Binaries are now dead. The router I got from Amazon has a USB socket on it that can take up to a 2tb drive or usb key. Then there's the dvd drive on my pc I'd like to access -the amiga does not have any cd etc.

Could someone point me at the correct ones? There are some on Aminet but I am not sure which I need.

Thanks in advance.

Sir_Lucas · 14 February 2017, 21:34

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Many thanks for the suggestions, sadly I have already tried this and the card still stalls before it scans for wifi networks.

The card might be damaged then. I'd suggest contacting the seller for a replacement or a refund.

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My router can run b/g or n, it can also run wpa/wpa2 so with luck your cards will work, though to be honest I am rather frustrated with wifi cards at the moment. So I looked around on amazon and found this... https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TL-...link+tl-wr802n

It arrived today, a real faf to get working I had to spend 2 hours with the tp-link online support team, and this was getting it to work with a pc... ugh. However once it was working, I just plugged my Amiga's wired card in and could connect to the internet straight away.

I'm glad you've made it working. If you're still interested in WPA2/AES PCMCIA WIFI card let me know.

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Good to say that both work, neither is great at rendering modern web sites, but they do their best. Shame you cannot buy an IBrowse key anymore and I have no idea if the devs will ever release Browse 3.

I'll send you a PM in a second. IBrowse 3.0 was going to be PPC only. There have been some rumors about IBrowse 2.5 released for 68k Amigas in the future.
Check Netsurf if you have a powerful enough Amiga.
http://ami-soft.blogspot.co.uk/

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I would now like to see if I can get access to shared network drives (I know I need Samba and smb) there is a good looking guide - here https://sambaforamigaos.wordpress.co...miga-overview/ but, like many websites the links to the Samba 2.2.5 Base files and Samba 2.2.5 68K Binaries are now dead. The router I got from Amazon has a USB socket on it that can take up to a 2tb drive or usb key. Then there's the dvd drive on my pc I'd like to access -the amiga does not have any cd etc.
Could someone point me at the correct ones? There are some on Aminet but I am not sure which I need.
Thanks in advance.

Samba is a bit of a pain. However, there's SMBFS. It's great and it works great.
I also suggest FTP

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ighlight=smbfs

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ighlight=smbfs

http://aminet.net/package/comm/net/SMBMounter

chocsplease · 22 February 2017, 15:12

Many thanks for all the help Sir_Lucas SMBFS was a bit tricky for me to setup (not that technical) I got it working once, but now it wont mount my share and I have not idea why. Ive been using SMB mounter and my PC is on a Home Group - I have no idea what the differences between this and a workgroup are, or if this is the problem. The error SMB mounter gives is 'Could not mount your... for some unknown reason'. Not very helpful.

I tried Tango from aminet - this needed a lot of Samba files, but at least the bin part of Samba was on the Aminet so I copied these over and Tango is sort of running. Its complaining that there is no Samba die and cant find my network

When Smbfs was working it seemed very slow, much slower than Amiga Explorer, and that is no speed merchant. It took seconds to copy files a few 100k in size and I have no idea why. I also could not connect to my PCs DVD drive at all.

Does anyone have any ideas how I can debug this?

I really appreciate all the help. Thank you in advance.

ncafferkey · 08 March 2017, 19:42

@chocsplease

Some points on WiFI:

I have the Thomson Speedtouch 110 card, and it works in some locations and not others. It looks like the firmware gets stuck when it encounters certain new information fields found in scan replies from modern routers. So even if you're not using a router that the card doesn't like, your neighbour's router could cause you problems. So your card probably isn't a dud, it's just that all Speedtouch 110 cards (and other Hermes-II chipset cards) have buggy firmware.

As WirelessManager seems to be trying to use WPA2 (RSN) in some of the logs you posted, you could try adding this line to your network definition to force WPA:

proto=WPA

Finally, having 11b clients on your network might slow it down by a small amount, but it won't make your modern devices run at 11b speeds. See http://superuser.com/questions/87774...channel#877771

On SMBFS: older versions of SMBFS don't support connecting to recent versions of Windows, but I think a new version was released in the last two or three years that solves some of these problems.

kriz · 20 April 2017, 07:23

Thanks, great thread going here. Now finally got my wireless pcmcia card going, aes + tkip was the way to go.. It worked after i redid the wireless.prefs file, if anyone else gets problem connecting to their wireless check the env:sys/wireless.prefs.. (Agere card).

wiser3 · 12 March 2021, 01:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by chocsplease

My router can run b/g or n, it can also run wpa/wpa2 so with luck your cards will work, though to be honest I am rather frustrated with wifi cards at the moment. So I looked around on amazon and found this... https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TL-...link+tl-wr802n

chocsplease:
I have the same router and have been trying to get it online for two months now with my Vampire v2 equipped Amiga 1200.

Instead of a basic OS install, now i'm trying to get it working from within Coffin r58. I thought this would be easier as all the software would be in place.

Any advice or tutorials you could point me to would be appreciated. Documentation for router, Vampire and Roadshow is horrible.

Now i need to go buy more cheap items i can smash out of frustration before i try going online again.

PDrill · 13 March 2021, 22:19

I must say, I know the frustration. It took me almost 10 years of trying every now and then when I finally got everything working. I tried at least 4 WiFi cards (all known to work on Amiga), various WiFi-routers and what more and it never worked for me. Finally I got the Orinoco Silver led to flash and I could ping 127.0.0.1 so I knew I was on to something. Still no connection to anywhere. Then I found a Asus RT-N10E router for 5 euros and bought that and finally I was getting somewhere. My card supports only open WiFi's but that wasn't a problem because I ran the Asus only when I wanted to use the Amiga. With any other router I couldn't get it to work so guess it just has to have 'some spec' I don't understand and so on. But like I said, I finally got it running and boy wasn't it easy but can be done by a lamer too :-D

Quite soon I got tired of waiting for the Asus to boot up when I needed it, and yet another box laying around with it's cables and PSU so I got me 'RJ45 lan card' which I'm using now.

So, to me it seems the biggest problem is to get a WiFi card AND a router that work together, when I accomplished that, there were really no problems with it.

Written on my A1200 :-P

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22 February 2017, 15:12	#43
chocsplease Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: london Posts: 178	Many thanks for all the help Sir_Lucas SMBFS was a bit tricky for me to setup (not that technical) I got it working once, but now it wont mount my share and I have not idea why. Ive been using SMB mounter and my PC is on a Home Group - I have no idea what the differences between this and a workgroup are, or if this is the problem. The error SMB mounter gives is 'Could not mount your... for some unknown reason'. Not very helpful. I tried Tango from aminet - this needed a lot of Samba files, but at least the bin part of Samba was on the Aminet so I copied these over and Tango is sort of running. Its complaining that there is no Samba die and cant find my network When Smbfs was working it seemed very slow, much slower than Amiga Explorer, and that is no speed merchant. It took seconds to copy files a few 100k in size and I have no idea why. I also could not connect to my PCs DVD drive at all. Does anyone have any ideas how I can debug this? I really appreciate all the help. Thank you in advance.

08 March 2017, 19:42	#44
ncafferkey Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Ireland Posts: 67	@chocsplease Some points on WiFI: I have the Thomson Speedtouch 110 card, and it works in some locations and not others. It looks like the firmware gets stuck when it encounters certain new information fields found in scan replies from modern routers. So even if you're not using a router that the card doesn't like, your neighbour's router could cause you problems. So your card probably isn't a dud, it's just that all Speedtouch 110 cards (and other Hermes-II chipset cards) have buggy firmware. As WirelessManager seems to be trying to use WPA2 (RSN) in some of the logs you posted, you could try adding this line to your network definition to force WPA: proto=WPA Finally, having 11b clients on your network might slow it down by a small amount, but it won't make your modern devices run at 11b speeds. See http://superuser.com/questions/87774...channel#877771 On SMBFS: older versions of SMBFS don't support connecting to recent versions of Windows, but I think a new version was released in the last two or three years that solves some of these problems.

20 April 2017, 07:23	#45
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,200	Thanks, great thread going here. Now finally got my wireless pcmcia card going, aes + tkip was the way to go.. It worked after i redid the wireless.prefs file, if anyone else gets problem connecting to their wireless check the env:sys/wireless.prefs.. (Agere card).

13 March 2021, 22:19	#47
PDrill Registered User Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Finland Posts: 129	I must say, I know the frustration. It took me almost 10 years of trying every now and then when I finally got everything working. I tried at least 4 WiFi cards (all known to work on Amiga), various WiFi-routers and what more and it never worked for me. Finally I got the Orinoco Silver led to flash and I could ping 127.0.0.1 so I knew I was on to something. Still no connection to anywhere. Then I found a Asus RT-N10E router for 5 euros and bought that and finally I was getting somewhere. My card supports only open WiFi's but that wasn't a problem because I ran the Asus only when I wanted to use the Amiga. With any other router I couldn't get it to work so guess it just has to have 'some spec' I don't understand and so on. But like I said, I finally got it running and boy wasn't it easy but can be done by a lamer too :-D Quite soon I got tired of waiting for the Asus to boot up when I needed it, and yet another box laying around with it's cables and PSU so I got me 'RJ45 lan card' which I'm using now. So, to me it seems the biggest problem is to get a WiFi card AND a router that work together, when I accomplished that, there were really no problems with it. Written on my A1200 :-P

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