Simplest HDMI solution for the Amiga

squirminator2k · 22 December 2020, 07:47

Without getting weird and judgemental about it, or suggesting I buy a proper CRT monitor (nice idea, but not viable for this project), what is the simplest option for outputting to HDMI with the best possible picture quality? Are we talking Scart + HDMI adapter? Is there an alternative adapter for the monitor output? What are my options if all I want to do is take the video output from the Amiga and plug it into an HDMI display?

Edit: This is for an A1200. No idea how I managed to forget to include this. Chalk it up to exhaustion.

hyami · 22 December 2020, 08:00

You don't state for which Amiga it is, but for the A500, A2000 and probably in the near future the A600, a project has been mentioned recently on the German A1K.org forum. Pi Zero als Flickerfixer / HDMI Output für OCS Amigas
https://www.a1k.org/forum/index.php?threads/77107/

It's basically an Denise adapter with a Raspberry Pi Zero attached that works with some sort of bare-metal software. It looks promising to me.

skan · 22 December 2020, 08:03

https://d520-converter.de/

squirminator2k · 22 December 2020, 08:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyami

You don't state for which Amiga it is, but for the A500, A2000 and probably in the near future the A600, a project has been mentioned recently on the German A1K.org forum. Pi Zero als Flickerfixer / HDMI Output für OCS Amigas
https://www.a1k.org/forum/index.php?threads/77107/

It's basically an Denise adapter with a Raspberry Pi Zero attached that works with some sort of bare-metal software. It looks promising to me.

I can't believe I forgot to mention this was for an A1200. I'm a dummy.

squirminator2k · 22 December 2020, 08:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by skan

https://d520-converter.de/

This looks promising! Not cheap, sure, but it has potential for my needs.

lilwshu · 22 December 2020, 10:11

Best quality = Indivision AGA Mk3.

JoeJoe · 22 December 2020, 11:04

...and D520! And I can just plug it into the various Amigas WITHOUT opening it.

Vypr · 22 December 2020, 11:17

The absolute simplest and cheapest method is to use an AV to HDMI converter like this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Famounte-Co...8632136&sr=8-6

Unfortunately since it uses the component output fromt eh Amiga,which is famously poor quality, the picture tends to look like hot garbage.

DerSheriff · 22 December 2020, 16:04

Indivision AGA. Simplest (as far as installation is concerned) and best solution with best picture quality in my opinion.

skan · 22 December 2020, 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by DerSheriff

Indivision AGA. Simplest (as far as installation is concerned) and best solution with best picture quality in my opinion.

Sorry, but no. As far as simplest installation is concerned, nothing beats a D520!

From an A1000 up tp an A4000, just plug'n'play.

There's some issues with 50hz output currently, but that *might* get fixed with a future fw update.

cugar124 · 23 December 2020, 00:28

I think the D520 is a myth no one seems to stock it

JoeJoe · 23 December 2020, 07:12

nope....can be ordered under https://d520-converter.de/

lilwshu · 23 December 2020, 11:31

I'd like to see the D520 in action against something like a Retrotink 2X-SCART as it seems to be doing similar things at double the price. Also the fact that it has issues with 50hz signals seems to defeat the entire purpose for an Amiga device.

JoeJoe · 23 December 2020, 11:55

My D520 runs with the latest firmware in 50 and 60Hz without any problems. The picture is the best you can get out of the Amiga. It is razor sharp and scrolls smoothly. I will NEVER part with my D520. Unfortunately I will buy a second one

lilwshu · 23 December 2020, 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeJoe

My D520 runs with the latest firmware in 50 and 60Hz without any problems. The picture is the best you can get out of the Amiga. It is razor sharp and scrolls smoothly. I will NEVER part with my D520. Unfortunately I will buy a second one

I don't understand how it can be the "best you can get" vs. the Indivision as the D520 is taking the analog output from the RGB port instead of taking the digital signals directly from Lisa. I guess the dial on the top is adjusting the signal somehow to filter out the noise - the Retrotink lacks any adjustment so any noise present is amplified.

I would like to try the D520 as the Indivision is rather fiddly and I would rather avoid clipping things on surface mount chips, but there are hardly any reviews of it, it's really expensive, and it sticks out the back of the Amiga too much - I can barely fit an A2000 plus keyboard on a modern desk as it is.

hyami · 23 December 2020, 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilwshu

I can barely fit an A2000 plus keyboard on a modern desk as it is.

the adapter + Raspberry Pi Zero will probably be adapted to fit in the A2000 video slot. An A2000 with HDMI output would be great

Jope · 23 December 2020, 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilwshu

the fact that it has issues with 50hz signals

The only issue there is, that it doesn't output the Amiga's 49.92Hz, but exactly 50Hz.

Pixelfill · 23 December 2020, 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilwshu

I would like to try the D520 as the Indivision is rather fiddly and I would rather avoid clipping things on surface mount chips, but there are hardly any reviews of it, it's really expensive, and it sticks out the back of the Amiga too much - I can barely fit an A2000 plus keyboard on a modern desk as it is.

Jope did a fairly good summary of the D520 vs the OSSC (another option for the O.P.) in this thread

Mike

cugar124 · 07 February 2021, 09:39

I'm waiting for the hdmi flt cable for the pi hdmi will let you know how it does. Cheap and intresting

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22 December 2020, 07:47	#1
squirminator2k Dream17 / PortsCenter guy Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Los Angeles Age: 37 Posts: 311	Simplest HDMI solution for the Amiga Without getting weird and judgemental about it, or suggesting I buy a proper CRT monitor (nice idea, but not viable for this project), what is the simplest option for outputting to HDMI with the best possible picture quality? Are we talking Scart + HDMI adapter? Is there an alternative adapter for the monitor output? What are my options if all I want to do is take the video output from the Amiga and plug it into an HDMI display? Edit: This is for an A1200. No idea how I managed to forget to include this. Chalk it up to exhaustion. Last edited by squirminator2k; 22 December 2020 at 08:13.

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22 December 2020, 08:00	#2
hyami Registered User Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Netherlands Posts: 27	You don't state for which Amiga it is, but for the A500, A2000 and probably in the near future the A600, a project has been mentioned recently on the German A1K.org forum. Pi Zero als Flickerfixer / HDMI Output für OCS Amigas https://www.a1k.org/forum/index.php?threads/77107/ It's basically an Denise adapter with a Raspberry Pi Zero attached that works with some sort of bare-metal software. It looks promising to me.

22 December 2020, 08:03	#3
skan Dream Merchant Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dreamlands Posts: 530	https://d520-converter.de/

22 December 2020, 10:11	#6
lilwshu Registered User Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: UK Posts: 243	Best quality = Indivision AGA Mk3.

22 December 2020, 11:04	#7
JoeJoe Registered User Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Germany Posts: 177	...and D520! And I can just plug it into the various Amigas WITHOUT opening it.

22 December 2020, 11:17	#8
Vypr Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: East Kilbride, Scotland Posts: 451	The absolute simplest and cheapest method is to use an AV to HDMI converter like this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Famounte-Co...8632136&sr=8-6 Unfortunately since it uses the component output fromt eh Amiga,which is famously poor quality, the picture tends to look like hot garbage.

22 December 2020, 16:04	#9
DerSheriff Registered User Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Italy Posts: 52	Indivision AGA. Simplest (as far as installation is concerned) and best solution with best picture quality in my opinion.

23 December 2020, 00:28	#11
cugar124 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Belfast Posts: 82	I think the D520 is a myth no one seems to stock it

23 December 2020, 07:12	#12
JoeJoe Registered User Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Germany Posts: 177	nope....can be ordered under https://d520-converter.de/

23 December 2020, 11:31	#13
lilwshu Registered User Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: UK Posts: 243	I'd like to see the D520 in action against something like a Retrotink 2X-SCART as it seems to be doing similar things at double the price. Also the fact that it has issues with 50hz signals seems to defeat the entire purpose for an Amiga device.

23 December 2020, 11:55	#14
JoeJoe Registered User Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Germany Posts: 177	My D520 runs with the latest firmware in 50 and 60Hz without any problems. The picture is the best you can get out of the Amiga. It is razor sharp and scrolls smoothly. I will NEVER part with my D520. Unfortunately I will buy a second one

07 February 2021, 09:39	#19
cugar124 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Belfast Posts: 82	I'm waiting for the hdmi flt cable for the pi hdmi will let you know how it does. Cheap and intresting Sent from my Pixel 4a (5G) using Tapatalk

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