X-Copy source code released! - Page 2

Korodny · 29 December 2011, 07:02

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Originally Posted by mr.vince

Cool... I will rebuild the complete thing and then ask the guys at Aminet to archive this version instead...

This thread just got pointed out to me - no uploads at all arrived at Aminet so far. Are you sure you uploaded the original version?

mr.vince · 29 December 2011, 09:59

No, I did not... because I wanted to wait for feedback. Last time this happened "automatically" with some other stuff, I think it was the other X-Copy releases in 2009 or 2010.

Anyway, needs to be updated. We don't want to store some 50% thing. I guess I'll lha the original folder as is to document what was on the master and then put phx/acd2001 changes into the "tree".

Maybe phx or acd2011 can supply me with a complete folder to put into the adf, so everything is in place.

phx · 29 December 2011, 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.vince

No, I did not... because I wanted to wait for feedback.

I agree. There should be no haste. The source is nearly 20 years old.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.vince

Maybe phx or acd2011 can supply me with a complete folder to put into the adf, so everything is in place.

Ok, I fixed the problems which acd2011 detected.
For the keymap I used the hex-codes $22, $27 and $5c instead, to avoid problems with any assembler.
The checksum calculation in the program didn't work. There should be no reason to include precalculated checksums. I fixed the responsible code.
Updated source archive attached.

Korodny · 29 December 2011, 16:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.vince

No, I did not...

Ok. Somebody interpreted your original post as an announcement that it has been uploaded and asked me why it didn't get moderated. No problem then.

mr.vince · 29 December 2011, 17:33

Ok guys, thanks, will update the archive, give proper credit, and exchange. After that, will submit another post here.

After that please feel free to put it up on Aminet so it gets preserved for the community to use and enjoy.

acd2001 · 29 December 2011, 19:52

I write a brief tutorial to compile X-Copy.
I'm not English, if someone want correct it, I would be grateful.

It's all PD, i don't want any credit.

mr.vince · 29 December 2011, 23:15

Ok, this should containt all your changes and the howto... please let me know if it's fine for you, then we should hand it over to Aminet.

http://www.kryoflux.com/download/xco...ce_2011_v2.zip

Lonewolf10 · 20 February 2013, 02:52

Was a final source code version ever confirmed to be completely 100% usable? I can't seem to find it on Aminet, so I guess not...?

Just curious, as I have had the .zips for over a year now and am in the middle of a cleanup (mostly Amiga and C64 files).

Retroplay · 12 March 2013, 18:51

I don't know if it's of any use, but I found the DOS version here on my hd, zoned just in case.

Quote:

;┌───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
;│ X-Copy PC for DOS V1.28 │
;│ copyright (c) 1993,94 by A.S.I. Ltd. distribution CACHET Software │
;└───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
=============================================================================

mr.vince · 13 March 2013, 08:16

There was really no need for a PC version. They made one anyway.

It can copy plain DOS disks. That's it.

admiral · 08 April 2021, 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.vince

Ok, this should containt all your changes and the howto... please let me know if it's fine for you, then we should hand it over to Aminet.

http://www.kryoflux.com/download/xco...ce_2011_v2.zip

Code:

The intention of this release is document the development process of
the software. This software is released as is, without any guarantees
or warranties. You are welcome to enhance it or develop further versions,
just keep it free (don't sell it) and release your source as well.

Unfortunately, this is wet paper as far as law goes.

It would be nice to actually place it under a license that does codify this intent legally (GPLv2 or v3 are common licenses with a source code under same license requirement if binaries are offered that's strong enough to prevent commercial exploitation in practice).

Thomas Richter · 08 April 2021, 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by admiral

Unfortunately, this is wet paper as far as law goes.

It would be nice to actually place it under a license that does codify this intent legally (GPLv2 or v3 are common licenses with a source code under same license requirement if binaries are offered that's strong enough to prevent commercial exploitation in practice).

Why? That's as clear as it could be. Don't sell, provide the source. It doesn't take a lawyer to express your will.

Hercules · 09 April 2021, 01:37

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Originally Posted by Retro1234

I still think a cheap Cyclone - Image to disk writer could be cool.

SuperAmiCard was far superior to Cyclone imho in terms of stuff it would copy. I got a wiring diagram to make one if anyone wants it. You will need the SuperAmiCard software to go with it which I also have.

Jope · 09 April 2021, 08:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules

SuperAmiCard was far superior to Cyclone imho in terms of stuff it would copy. I got a wiring diagram to make one if anyone wants it. You will need the SuperAmiCard software to go with it which I also have.

That was a parameter copier, wasn't it? This means it cracked the games as it went.

Cyclone was just a direct "double deck" flux copier. Similar to reading/writing blindly with KF or GW. :-)

admiral · 09 April 2021, 09:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Richter

Why? That's as clear as it could be. Don't sell, provide the source. It doesn't take a lawyer to express your will.

Unfortunately, loose words like that do not constitute a license, whereas well-known licenses such as MIT or GPL are widely recognized as Open Source (OSI) or Free Software (FSF).

Copyright law is complex, and licenses are written with it in mind, by people who understand law.

This is just how it is, and I do not like it either, but anything else than a well-known license is considered a minefield.

Most people won't go anywhere near it, including myself, because it is simply not worth the risks and trouble. Given the relationship between Amiga and legal drama, I can't blame anybody for being paranoid.

Supamax · 27 April 2021, 05:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules

SuperAmiCard was far superior to Cyclone imho in terms of stuff it would copy. I got a wiring diagram to make one if anyone wants it. You will need the SuperAmiCard software to go with it which I also have.

Yes, I would like to see the wiring diagram

.
Is it easy to build? No ICs etc. onboard?

honx · 27 April 2021, 06:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retroplay

I don't know if it's of any use, but I found the DOS version here on my hd, zoned just in case.

since retroplay's post is several years old i can't find xcopy dos in zone anymore.
does anyone know where i might be able to download x-copy for pc now in 2021?
after i read that there was a pc version i'm curious and i want to try it!

Retro1234 · 27 April 2021, 07:55

SuperAmiCard was a hardware copier like cyclone, cyclone was probably the most basic hardware copier out of all the hardware copiers, and X-copy was pretty basic couldn't really copy anything.

But I meant something like Cyclone to copy Ipfs back to disk on Amiga a bit like powercopy with the hardware, but probably not many people using floppys now days.

2011 post

Jope · 27 April 2021, 09:17

No waiting for parameters!

We now have parameters!
http://amiga.resource.cx/adcoll/adco...rcardami2&pg=5

Hercules · 27 April 2021, 13:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

Yes, I would like to see the wiring diagram

.
Is it easy to build? No ICs etc. onboard?

No IC's at all, just 2x 23 way D connectors and alot of soldering. A friend made me the SuperAmiCard hardware a while ago. You can find out how to build it on one off the LSD Doc Disks which features the wiring diagram. SuperAmiCard software you will find on Insanity Tools Disk. If anyone want it uploaded to the zone then let us know.

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29 December 2011, 09:59	#22
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	No, I did not... because I wanted to wait for feedback. Last time this happened "automatically" with some other stuff, I think it was the other X-Copy releases in 2009 or 2010. Anyway, needs to be updated. We don't want to store some 50% thing. I guess I'll lha the original folder as is to document what was on the master and then put phx/acd2001 changes into the "tree". Maybe phx or acd2011 can supply me with a complete folder to put into the adf, so everything is in place.

29 December 2011, 17:33	#25
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	Ok guys, thanks, will update the archive, give proper credit, and exchange. After that, will submit another post here. After that please feel free to put it up on Aminet so it gets preserved for the community to use and enjoy.

29 December 2011, 23:15	#27
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	Ok, this should containt all your changes and the howto... please let me know if it's fine for you, then we should hand it over to Aminet. http://www.kryoflux.com/download/xco...ce_2011_v2.zip

20 February 2013, 02:52	#28
Lonewolf10 AMOS Extensions Developer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: near Cambridge, UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,924	Was a final source code version ever confirmed to be completely 100% usable? I can't seem to find it on Aminet, so I guess not...? Just curious, as I have had the .zips for over a year now and am in the middle of a cleanup (mostly Amiga and C64 files).

13 March 2013, 08:16	#30
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	There was really no need for a PC version. They made one anyway. It can copy plain DOS disks. That's it.

27 April 2021, 07:55	#38
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	SuperAmiCard was a hardware copier like cyclone, cyclone was probably the most basic hardware copier out of all the hardware copiers, and X-copy was pretty basic couldn't really copy anything. But I meant something like Cyclone to copy Ipfs back to disk on Amiga a bit like powercopy with the hardware, but probably not many people using floppys now days. 2011 post

27 April 2021, 09:17	#39
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	No waiting for parameters! We now have parameters! http://amiga.resource.cx/adcoll/adco...rcardami2&pg=5

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