Psygnosis Questions

rebelli0n · 25 September 2006, 09:21

Hi Everyone,

I'm new to the board, but certainly not new to the amiga, a long time user since '88, i was also active in the demoscene from about '92 - '95 (maniacs, dualformat and neo at various times)

After an age of just reading the board i decided to join in, spurred on by a project i'm doing at the moment

I'm currently working on a video series to be given away free on the net focusing on Psygnosis and their games.

In effect, each episode is to focus on a year of output (apart from the first, which condenses 1985 [brataccus], 1986 [deep space, Arena] and 1987 [Barbarian, terrorpods], into one block.) naturally it's going to be very amiga centric.

Although i've done a lot of research and resource gathering (I think i now own every released amiga psygnosis game), theres still some things i don't know or can't find.

which brings me to my question...

Does anyone remember, or have the Psygnosis game from 1986 called 'Arena'?, more specifically the box art. At present i only have the floppy discs, and no box. I think i read on this board that it came in a white box, rather than the traditional psygnosis black box, but i've never been able to find a boxed version, or even a scan of the box art online.

Does anyone know where i can find a scan? Alternatively if anyone has the original box they could scan, i would be most greatful. (and would of course give credit in the video). failing that, any information on it would be handy.

also, i'm keen to stress that I'm not just appearing on here to gather infomation for my personal project, i'm keen on generally chatting on the board.

Oh finally i should add, if there's anyone who actually worked for psygnosis, or one of the developers that were published by psygnosis (and i'm pretty sure i've spotted a few musicans on here), i'd be very keen to hear any information you'd be happy to share with me

Thanks

Reb.

Belgarath · 25 September 2006, 12:25

Hi there, I've put scans of Arena in the zone for you (read the faq on how to access the zone). These scans are actually of the ST version but the only thing denoting it as the ST version is a little sticker in the top right corner.

If I remember rightly I got this from Stefan Lindberg so the thanks must go to him.

rebelli0n · 25 September 2006, 13:14

Thanks Belgarath, very much appreciated.

I was quite surprised at how different they are to the usual box style. Strikes me as an abortive attempt to create a 'psygnosis family entertainment series'.

Thanks again, credit will be given to Stefan.

Stefan Lindberg · 25 September 2006, 20:19

Hehe... i was just looking at my old Arena scans the other day when i found them going thru my old backupfiles... really special box not in traditional Psygnosis style and just to open the box is an IQ test, the edges are ripped by people trying to open it the (what they thought)proper way :-)

I still have the box if anymore pics is needed?

rebelli0n · 26 September 2006, 09:37

The plan is to create a 3d model of the box in lightwave and texture on the scans, like this...

so i think front and back should be enough. Is there anything on the top/sides?

usually they had the psygnosis logo on one side and the Game logo on the other.

In anycase, The pic you've posted there is helpful , as i see it's a special folding type of box, rather than the usual 2 piece. so i'll adjust the model accordingly, and maybe show it opening up.

is that a special Psygnosis badge in there too?

Thanks again, I was beginning to think i would just have to have a blank box with a ? on it at one point

rebelli0n · 26 September 2006, 10:11

Another question, This time about Barbarian,

Infact if any moderator could change the title of this thread to 'Psygnosis Questions' or something, that would be helpful, as i think i've generally got Arena covered now thanks to Stefan, and i don't want to clutter the forum up with loads of little psygnosis threads

Anyway,

Does anyone remember if Barbarian Came with a T-shirt ala shadow of the beast? My copies (ST/Amiga) don't, but I got them from ebay in a used condition. Barbarian seems like enough of a major title to maybe warrent the Psygnosis T-shirt 'freebie'.

Sadly my first Psygnosis/psyclapse game back in the day was Menace, and i never saw Barbarian in original full release form.

killergorilla · 26 September 2006, 10:23

I had the original of Barbarian and no it didn't come with a T-Shirt

EDIT: I do believe it came with a poster that had a picture of the dinosaur loading screen though.

Paul · 26 September 2006, 11:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebelli0n

Infact if any moderator could change the title of this thread to 'Psygnosis Questions'...

Thread renamed

And Welcome to EAB

rebelli0n · 28 September 2006, 21:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul

Thread renamed

And Welcome to EAB

Thanks

I've almost finished the first 'episode' of my little project, just finishing off 'terrorpods' atm, theres a confusing game... especially if you got it with the 10star pack like me, it didn't come with the proper instructions! No chance of getting anywhere in it with out those.

I'm preparing to gather the footage for the 2nd ep (1988), and i've come into a bit of a problem with Captain Fizz meets the Blastertrons. My original version simply doens't work at all anymore, i suspect the disks have simply decayed.

I've tried downloading all the .ADF versions i can find on the net and they all seem to get to the introscreen with the picture and music but when you press a key/button to get past it, nothing loads past that point.

Is there a known working version of Captain Fizz ?

Ray Norrish · 29 September 2006, 22:54

Unfortunately, the music player had a self destruct mechanism built in on account of how insanely rubbish it was. All disks corrupted themselves after being played for >5 minutes because of potential brain damage / law suits, so it's going to be quite difficult to find a working version.

killergorilla · 29 September 2006, 23:33

There is an SPS version

Antiriad · 01 October 2006, 16:52

Where's ol FromWithin when you need him? Anyway, I very much look forward to seeing this come to fruition!

FromWithin · 01 October 2006, 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antiriad

Where's ol FromWithin when you need him? Anyway, I very much look forward to seeing this come to fruition!

In Japan.

guru64 · 01 October 2006, 21:50

http://hol.abime.net/search.php?N_ref_publisher=487

a list of Psygnosis Games at the Hall of Light - Amiga games database

Do you have a webpage where you announce the progress or release date of this video production. I'm looking forward to watching it!

good luck!

blade002 · 02 October 2006, 00:56

I shouldnt have sold my Original Copy of Awesome. It came with a T-Shirt and a lovely big rectangular box. Silly me

The game also cost me $85 Australian at the time too.. But it was worth it

rebelli0n · 11 October 2006, 03:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Norrish

Unfortunately, the music player had a self destruct mechanism built in on account of how insanely rubbish it was. All disks corrupted themselves after being played for >5 minutes because of potential brain damage / law suits, so it's going to be quite difficult to find a working version.

I'm glad someone who worked on the game has elaborated on it.

Could I ask what happened there in a little more detail? Did the disks really self-corrupt after a few minutes of play? I've only ever personally been able to get to the title screen, with your music. I ask because if i can't find a working version, i'll have to elaborate why. Maybe this was why the developers only did one game with psygnosis

, It was coded by papyrus of indy500 fame if i recall (although that might be a different papyrus).

GURU 64: I do have a website to host and announce the project, www.psyoptic.co.uk which currently only hosts the cg intro (done in the style of an early 90s psygnosis intro). Once the first episode is done, there will be a site there too with extra info on the games , and news/updates on the progress of episodes, which i'm hoping will be fortnightly released once it's up and running.

Typically, just as i'm almost done, i'm having problems with my current host. I may find i have to move it or buy some other hosting to actually carry the files. So the site may just vanish for a few days, whilst nameserver/DNS stuff sorts out.

killergorilla · 11 October 2006, 10:37

As I already said... there is a working SPS version.

rebelli0n · 11 October 2006, 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

As I already said... there is a working SPS version.

As far as i know the SPS doesn't give out copies of the games it has archived unless you are the copyright holder or involved in the games development. So the working version is beyond my reach.

25 September 2006, 09:21	#1
rebelli0n Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: UK Posts: 13	Psygnosis Questions Hi Everyone, I'm new to the board, but certainly not new to the amiga, a long time user since '88, i was also active in the demoscene from about '92 - '95 (maniacs, dualformat and neo at various times) After an age of just reading the board i decided to join in, spurred on by a project i'm doing at the moment I'm currently working on a video series to be given away free on the net focusing on Psygnosis and their games. In effect, each episode is to focus on a year of output (apart from the first, which condenses 1985 [brataccus], 1986 [deep space, Arena] and 1987 [Barbarian, terrorpods], into one block.) naturally it's going to be very amiga centric. Although i've done a lot of research and resource gathering (I think i now own every released amiga psygnosis game), theres still some things i don't know or can't find. which brings me to my question... Does anyone remember, or have the Psygnosis game from 1986 called 'Arena'?, more specifically the box art. At present i only have the floppy discs, and no box. I think i read on this board that it came in a white box, rather than the traditional psygnosis black box, but i've never been able to find a boxed version, or even a scan of the box art online. Does anyone know where i can find a scan? Alternatively if anyone has the original box they could scan, i would be most greatful. (and would of course give credit in the video). failing that, any information on it would be handy. also, i'm keen to stress that I'm not just appearing on here to gather infomation for my personal project, i'm keen on generally chatting on the board. Oh finally i should add, if there's anyone who actually worked for psygnosis, or one of the developers that were published by psygnosis (and i'm pretty sure i've spotted a few musicans on here), i'd be very keen to hear any information you'd be happy to share with me Thanks Reb. Last edited by rebelli0n; 25 September 2006 at 09:35.

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25 September 2006, 12:25	#2
Belgarath HOL Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,519	Hi there, I've put scans of Arena in the zone for you (read the faq on how to access the zone). These scans are actually of the ST version but the only thing denoting it as the ST version is a little sticker in the top right corner. If I remember rightly I got this from Stefan Lindberg so the thanks must go to him.

25 September 2006, 13:14	#3
rebelli0n Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: UK Posts: 13	Thanks Belgarath, very much appreciated. I was quite surprised at how different they are to the usual box style. Strikes me as an abortive attempt to create a 'psygnosis family entertainment series'. Thanks again, credit will be given to Stefan.

25 September 2006, 20:19	#4
Stefan Lindberg Zone Friend Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Stockholm/Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 270	Hehe... i was just looking at my old Arena scans the other day when i found them going thru my old backupfiles... really special box not in traditional Psygnosis style and just to open the box is an IQ test, the edges are ripped by people trying to open it the (what they thought)proper way :-) I still have the box if anymore pics is needed?

26 September 2006, 09:37	#5
rebelli0n Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: UK Posts: 13	The plan is to create a 3d model of the box in lightwave and texture on the scans, like this... so i think front and back should be enough. Is there anything on the top/sides? usually they had the psygnosis logo on one side and the Game logo on the other. In anycase, The pic you've posted there is helpful , as i see it's a special folding type of box, rather than the usual 2 piece. so i'll adjust the model accordingly, and maybe show it opening up. is that a special Psygnosis badge in there too? Thanks again, I was beginning to think i would just have to have a blank box with a ? on it at one point

26 September 2006, 10:11	#6
rebelli0n Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: UK Posts: 13	Another question, This time about Barbarian, Infact if any moderator could change the title of this thread to 'Psygnosis Questions' or something, that would be helpful, as i think i've generally got Arena covered now thanks to Stefan, and i don't want to clutter the forum up with loads of little psygnosis threads Anyway, Does anyone remember if Barbarian Came with a T-shirt ala shadow of the beast? My copies (ST/Amiga) don't, but I got them from ebay in a used condition. Barbarian seems like enough of a major title to maybe warrent the Psygnosis T-shirt 'freebie'. Sadly my first Psygnosis/psyclapse game back in the day was Menace, and i never saw Barbarian in original full release form.

26 September 2006, 10:23	#7
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	I had the original of Barbarian and no it didn't come with a T-Shirt EDIT: I do believe it came with a poster that had a picture of the dinosaur loading screen though.

29 September 2006, 22:54	#10
Ray Norrish Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheshire, UK Age: 56 Posts: 322	Unfortunately, the music player had a self destruct mechanism built in on account of how insanely rubbish it was. All disks corrupted themselves after being played for >5 minutes because of potential brain damage / law suits, so it's going to be quite difficult to find a working version.

29 September 2006, 23:33	#11
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	There is an SPS version

01 October 2006, 16:52	#12
Antiriad The Sacred Armour Of Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sussex, UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,141	Where's ol FromWithin when you need him? Anyway, I very much look forward to seeing this come to fruition!

01 October 2006, 21:50	#14
guru64 Oldskool God Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: europe Posts: 28	http://hol.abime.net/search.php?N_ref_publisher=487 a list of Psygnosis Games at the Hall of Light - Amiga games database Do you have a webpage where you announce the progress or release date of this video production. I'm looking forward to watching it! good luck!

02 October 2006, 00:56	#15
blade002 Zone Friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Australia Age: 50 Posts: 2,616	I shouldnt have sold my Original Copy of Awesome. It came with a T-Shirt and a lovely big rectangular box. Silly me The game also cost me $85 Australian at the time too.. But it was worth it

11 October 2006, 10:37	#17
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	As I already said... there is a working SPS version.

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