PFS3 is soon to become FREE and opensource - Page 4

gulliver · 10 May 2010, 11:35

Okay, here is an email from Michiel I have just received regarding PFS4

__________________________________________________________________

From:
"Michiel Pelt" <xxx@gmail.com>
Add sender to Contacts
To:
"Ignacio" <xxx@yahoo.com>
> On the other hand, many people are intrigued by your PFS4. Do you have at least a draft of what was supposed to feature? It will be interesting to have any information regarding this filesystem.

PFS3 was a very modern and advanced filesystem for its time, not only
looking at the Amiga market, but at filesystems in general. Over the
years many of the ideas found in PFS3 have been incorporated in other
filesystems. PFS3 was one of the first to be atomic, now more have
this feature. Rollover files still seem to be unique to PFS3.

PFS3 was based on the original shareware PFS which was designed as a
floppy filesystem. A lot of changes have been made to make PFS work on
ever larger harddisks and the result was PFS3 which works pretty well.
The most recent Linux filesystems like Reiser4 surpass it though, but
there is one area where PFS3 remains king: the floppy or other
relatively small removable disks like ZIP, what it was originally
designed to work on.

PFS4 is a new design from the ground up. It takes the good things from
PFS3 and adds new ideas inspired by scientific papers and open source
filesystems like Reiser. Most notable improvements compared to PFS3
are
- B+ tree for directory structure which improves scalability and
handling of large directories.
- Redesign of the atomic commit feature.
- Automatic grouping of small files which results in both more
storagespace and better performance.
- Builtin automatic defragmentation and improved fragmentation prevention.

Note that PFS4 only exists on paper.

Best regards,

Michiel Pelt
________________________________________________________________

alexh · 10 May 2010, 11:37

Are we any closer to a PFS3 binary release (with key if necessary) via Aminet?

Source code is nice 'n' all but most of us just want to try this with our 68000 based A600's

gulliver · 10 May 2010, 11:48

..."First thing is the binary release on aminet. You can expect that soon
enough."... By Michiel Pelt on the 4th May 2010

How soon is "soon enough", I dont know

Charlie · 10 May 2010, 12:18

'Two more weeks...'

Yes, naugthy but I couldn't resist.

On a more sensible note:
If Michiel Pelt is happy to release PFS3 in any form at any time, however long it takes to do so, that's really generous of him and I appreciate his kindness.

cosmicfrog · 10 May 2010, 13:33

yep we all appreciate the generosity that Michiel is giveing us

but waiting sucks

th4t1guy · 11 May 2010, 16:15

Anyone know if PFS3 is readable in linux?

Npl · 11 May 2010, 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by th4t1guy

Anyone know if PFS3 is readable in linux?

no, maybe you can access it through an "Amiga" within UAE, atleast I could read my (PSF3) HDDs under WinUAE that way. if its opensourced that could change.

And regarding license again, zlib fits closely, just edit the first statement to read "required" instead of "appreciated".

gulliver · 11 May 2010, 20:50

Thanks. I already forwarded your suggestion to Michiel Pelt.

gulliver · 29 May 2010, 00:46

Just to keep you all updated. AndreasM, the guy in charge of the Amiga Future magazine, asked me for the email of Michiel Pelt, which I gladly gave him.

What follows is a brief email update from Michiel:

From:
"Michiel Pelt" <xxx@gmail.com>
Add sender to Contacts
To:
"Ignacio" <xxx@yahoo.com>

Ignacio,

The full PFS3 will be available on the Amiga Future cover disk as is.
This will consist of the files directly taken from the original CD.

Best regards

Michiel Pelt
author of PFS3

killergorilla · 29 May 2010, 01:22

So is this the only release of it?

whiteb · 29 May 2010, 02:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by gulliver

Just to keep you all updated. AndreasM, the guy in charge of the Amiga Future magazine, asked me for the email of Michiel Pelt, which I gladly gave him.

What follows is a brief email update from Michiel:

From:
"Michiel Pelt" <xxx@gmail.com>
Add sender to Contacts
To:
"Ignacio" <xxx@yahoo.com>

Ignacio,

The full PFS3 will be available on the Amiga Future cover disk as is.
This will consist of the files directly taken from the original CD.

Best regards

Michiel Pelt
author of PFS3

YOU GOT TO BE JOKING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!

A cover disk of a Magazine I cant get (Here in Australia), who's website is ONLY in German ????????.

Let me tell you this, Amiga's exist outside of Germany you know ! (ARE YOU LISTENING A1K.org ????).

Wanders off swearing in as many languages as I remember........

And to say more........, We have been (Well you have been) pushing for the open release to the COMMUNITY, and the first person to come along, Andreas, get it for the Magazine Coverdisk.........

Swears a lot more.

alexh · 29 May 2010, 07:44

I think Michiel previous words are a sign it is ok to make backups. Anyone got said PS3 CD? I seem to have misplaced mine

T_hairy_bootson · 29 May 2010, 09:58

So Gulliver did all the legwork and now AndreasM swoops in and is going to make a profit from it.

Wow... I am just speechless...

mihcael · 29 May 2010, 10:08

THB signature seems somehow relevant??

Surely?? it will be freely distrubutable once people get it off the coverdisks? (coverdisk... isnt that one of those things you have to extract out to 3 floppies usings DMS that was all the rage back ion the 90's)

whiteb · 29 May 2010, 10:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by mihcael

THB signature seems somehow relevant??

Surely?? it will be freely distrubutable once people get it off the coverdisks? (coverdisk... isnt that one of those things you have to extract out to 3 floppies usings DMS that was all the rage back ion the 90's)

Well I thought the author wanted the CD structure preserved (The CD you can buy, of PFS3).

In any event, the emails to Gulliver said he "Intends to release the binary to Aminet first", Then Gulliver says "AndreasM emailed me for the Author's Email address, So I gave it", and lastly "The Author emailed me back, its going to appear on AF coverdisk"

Gulliver you PLONKER !!!!!!!!!!!, You could have waited till Pelt released the binary to Aminet, now we have to wait for someone to BUY the magazine and sneak it out to the rest of us. (Unless it is a SIMULTANEOUS Aminet/AF release), I wonder if PELT even knows that AF is a COMMERCIAL enterprise, Also makes you wonder if AndreasM falsely told him it was a FREE magazine to get the OK (Going by his history). Infact, its AU$20 an issue, or (Around AU$100 for a year sub for me)

cosmicfrog · 29 May 2010, 11:36

indeed it`s sad that a certain person has got his grub fingers in the pie

poor gulliver sometimes when you try to do the right thing it can all go pear shape

daxb · 29 May 2010, 11:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteb

A cover disk of a Magazine I cant get (Here in Australia), who's website is ONLY in German ????????.

In worst case. The mag is available in german and english. It is possible to order a single one over their websites.

killergorilla · 29 May 2010, 11:52

If it seriously is only available by AF then that is utter dogshit.

rare_j · 29 May 2010, 11:57

I can't believe that scumbag has got involved.

TCD · 29 May 2010, 11:58

Bwahahahahahaha

AndreasM strikes again! Nice one

Seriously that made my day guys

gulliver credulously handed the email over and now you all get an Amiga Future exclusive release

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10 May 2010, 11:35	#61
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	Okay, here is an email from Michiel I have just received regarding PFS4 __________________________________________________________________ From: "Michiel Pelt" <xxx@gmail.com> Add sender to Contacts To: "Ignacio" <xxx@yahoo.com> > On the other hand, many people are intrigued by your PFS4. Do you have at least a draft of what was supposed to feature? It will be interesting to have any information regarding this filesystem. PFS3 was a very modern and advanced filesystem for its time, not only looking at the Amiga market, but at filesystems in general. Over the years many of the ideas found in PFS3 have been incorporated in other filesystems. PFS3 was one of the first to be atomic, now more have this feature. Rollover files still seem to be unique to PFS3. PFS3 was based on the original shareware PFS which was designed as a floppy filesystem. A lot of changes have been made to make PFS work on ever larger harddisks and the result was PFS3 which works pretty well. The most recent Linux filesystems like Reiser4 surpass it though, but there is one area where PFS3 remains king: the floppy or other relatively small removable disks like ZIP, what it was originally designed to work on. PFS4 is a new design from the ground up. It takes the good things from PFS3 and adds new ideas inspired by scientific papers and open source filesystems like Reiser. Most notable improvements compared to PFS3 are - B+ tree for directory structure which improves scalability and handling of large directories. - Redesign of the atomic commit feature. - Automatic grouping of small files which results in both more storagespace and better performance. - Builtin automatic defragmentation and improved fragmentation prevention. Note that PFS4 only exists on paper. Best regards, Michiel Pelt ________________________________________________________________

10 May 2010, 11:37	#62
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,332	Are we any closer to a PFS3 binary release (with key if necessary) via Aminet? Source code is nice 'n' all but most of us just want to try this with our 68000 based A600's

10 May 2010, 11:48	#63
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	..."First thing is the binary release on aminet. You can expect that soon enough."... By Michiel Pelt on the 4th May 2010 How soon is "soon enough", I dont know

10 May 2010, 12:18	#64
Charlie . . Mouse . . Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 55 Posts: 1,792	'Two more weeks...' Yes, naugthy but I couldn't resist. On a more sensible note: If Michiel Pelt is happy to release PFS3 in any form at any time, however long it takes to do so, that's really generous of him and I appreciate his kindness.

10 May 2010, 13:33	#65
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	yep we all appreciate the generosity that Michiel is giveing us but waiting sucks

11 May 2010, 16:15	#66
th4t1guy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO, USA Posts: 683	Anyone know if PFS3 is readable in linux?

11 May 2010, 20:50	#68
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	Thanks. I already forwarded your suggestion to Michiel Pelt.

29 May 2010, 00:46	#69
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	Just to keep you all updated. AndreasM, the guy in charge of the Amiga Future magazine, asked me for the email of Michiel Pelt, which I gladly gave him. What follows is a brief email update from Michiel: From: "Michiel Pelt" <xxx@gmail.com> Add sender to Contacts To: "Ignacio" <xxx@yahoo.com> Ignacio, The full PFS3 will be available on the Amiga Future cover disk as is. This will consist of the files directly taken from the original CD. Best regards Michiel Pelt author of PFS3

29 May 2010, 01:22	#70
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	So is this the only release of it?

29 May 2010, 07:44	#72
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,332	I think Michiel previous words are a sign it is ok to make backups. Anyone got said PS3 CD? I seem to have misplaced mine

29 May 2010, 09:58	#73
T_hairy_bootson Workbitch 1.3 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 46 Posts: 2,084	So Gulliver did all the legwork and now AndreasM swoops in and is going to make a profit from it. Wow... I am just speechless...

29 May 2010, 10:08	#74
mihcael Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Aussie Posts: 1,144	THB signature seems somehow relevant?? Surely?? it will be freely distrubutable once people get it off the coverdisks? (coverdisk... isnt that one of those things you have to extract out to 3 floppies usings DMS that was all the rage back ion the 90's)

29 May 2010, 11:36	#76
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	indeed it`s sad that a certain person has got his grub fingers in the pie poor gulliver sometimes when you try to do the right thing it can all go pear shape

29 May 2010, 11:52	#78
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	If it seriously is only available by AF then that is utter dogshit.

29 May 2010, 11:57	#79
rare_j Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,176	I can't believe that scumbag has got involved.

29 May 2010, 11:58	#80
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,518	Bwahahahahahaha AndreasM strikes again! Nice one Seriously that made my day guys gulliver credulously handed the email over and now you all get an Amiga Future exclusive release

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