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graffias79 · 25 October 2018, 14:24

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Originally Posted by graffias79

I'll put my 3.1 ROMs back when I get home from work and see.

Well then I guess that answers that. I'll just use it as it is then. That was a fun wild goose chase.

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Madk71 · 25 October 2018, 17:36

Ok, I'll try this too and I'll let you know. Thank you so much for your help.

oscillik · 25 October 2018, 18:56

Could someone who bought this BEFORE they switched online store providers, please post an MD5 of the kick.a1200.46.143 file?

I'm trying to use Remus to split the ROM and get the new Intuition up and running, and I keep getting hit with ROM Unsupported.

I have a feeling something has changed, because all the videos showcasing this have slightly different copyright notices:

Here's a screenshot from AmigaBill's video https://i.imgur.com/lyQSeMy.png

And here's a screenshot from my Kickstart screen https://i.imgur.com/hpIUWr8.png

I bought my copy of 3.1.4 after the changeover to a new ecommerce store, and notice how mine says copyright Hyperion Entertainment CVBA, as opposed to copyright Hyperion Entertainment?

My MD5 is kick.a1200.46.143 : 79bfe8876cd5abe397c50f60ea4306b9

kolla · 25 October 2018, 19:06

betajaen · 25 October 2018, 20:21

Bought on 2018-09-30

AmigaOS 3.1.4 for 68K Amiga 1200:

kick.a1200.46.143 : 6de08cd5c5efd926d0a7643e8fb776fe

So it has changed...

p.s.

I did a quick video/tutorial today for oscillik, On how to use Remus with the 3.1.4 ROM for the intutiton.library. I thought it be useful to post it here to, just in case anyone wants to know.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/327221503

hth313 · 25 October 2018, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by betajaen

Bought on 2018-09-30

AmigaOS 3.1.4 for 68K Amiga 1200:

kick.a1200.46.143 : 6de08cd5c5efd926d0a7643e8fb776fe

So it has changed...

But the build number did not change...

oscillik · 25 October 2018, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by betajaen

Bought on 2018-09-30

AmigaOS 3.1.4 for 68K Amiga 1200:

kick.a1200.46.143 : 6de08cd5c5efd926d0a7643e8fb776fe

So it has changed...

Thanks for confirming!

So now there are TWO versions of 3.1.4 out there in the wild, and it's already causing headaches...

desiv · 25 October 2018, 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscillik

So now there are TWO versions of 3.1.4 out there in the wild, and it's already causing headaches...

Q: What headaches? (Honestly want to know)

kolla · 25 October 2018, 20:41

I'm curious about which license this is supposedly developed under. Is this also a sign of Hyperion admitting that they do not have exclusive rights to OS3 sources and development, trying to back-paddle earlier statements?

betajaen · 25 October 2018, 20:53

I would think it's a bit more innocent, that they didn't put the legal mumbo-jumbo in correctly and had to be updated.

oscillik · 25 October 2018, 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by desiv

Q: What headaches? (Honestly want to know)

The fact that I cannot use ROMsplit to extract the files

betajaen · 25 October 2018, 20:59

I looked into for you to see if I could make a split file for that version. But the files are in binary, and romtools on Github does go into a lot of information, but it seems a lot of it is handy work, and can't be automated.

I think we need to call in a higher power, and see if they can update the file.

desiv · 25 October 2018, 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscillik

The fact that I cannot use ROMsplit to extract the files

But is that only on the "new" version of the 3.1.4 rom?
I thought that was the case for 3.1.4 in general.
Is the problem that there are 2 versions, or just problems with 3.1.4 in general?
(I am hoping for a fix to that problem also. I want a ROM I can burn (or get burned) with the new intuition.library built in.)

oscillik · 25 October 2018, 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by desiv

But is that only on the "new" version of the 3.1.4 rom?
I thought that was the case for 3.1.4 in general.
Is the problem that there are 2 versions, or just problems with 3.1.4 in general?
(I am hoping for a fix to that problem also. I want a ROM I can burn (or get burned) with the new intuition.library built in.)

betajaen got it to work with his ROM file which he bought before the Hyperion eCommerce store switch-over, using ROMsplit v1.23.

I've tried both v1.23 and v1.24, and neither will work with the ROM file I have, which I bought from Hyperion after the switch-over

desiv · 25 October 2018, 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscillik

betajaen got it to work with his ROM file which he bought before the Hyperion eCommerce store switch-over, using ROMsplit v1.23.

I've tried both v1.23 and v1.24, and neither will work with the ROM file I have, which I bought from Hyperion after the switch-over

Ah, interesting!
Thanx!

betajaen · 25 October 2018, 21:07

No, it seems there are two versions for the same 3.1.4 ROM, which both can be kicked in to Fast RAM as with any other Kickstart.

The later version seems to have some copyright text changes on the Insert Disk purple screen. This changed the checksum of the ROM.

Remus only works with the earlier version of the ROM, and can't work with the newer version because the checksum is different. Thus can't be customised with the alternate intuition library.

For now; if you have the older version; MD5: 6de08cd5c5efd926d0a7643e8fb776fe then your okay, and customise the ROM.

If you have the newer version; MD5 79bfe8876cd5abe397c50f60ea4306b9 then you may have to wait, until Remus is updated.

kolla · 25 October 2018, 21:35

I have the "old" A500/A600/A2000 kickstart...

Code:

MD5 (emulation_or_maprom/kick.a500.46.143) = 7fe1eb0ba2b767659bf547bfb40d67c4
MD5 (to_burn/kick.a500a600a2000.46.143.bin) = 93acf1c6add079bebf8dc48d47a4d182

oscillik · 25 October 2018, 21:54

Honestly, I'm wishing I had bought this when I found out about it! Damn wages. Now I'm using this weird one with the weird copyright notice

modrobert · 26 October 2018, 06:05

I guess it needs to be riddled with copyright notices, no source code in sight, and mismatching ROM checksums to give that authentic Commodore feeling.

cmsj · 26 October 2018, 11:07

These are from before the takedown:

MD5 (./emulation_or_maprom/kick.a4000.46.143) = 7431253a40972a3340197c7cc6a28daf
MD5 (./to_burn/kick.a4000.46.143-lo.bin) = b1334500c4f7166c57cb608985e58ee9
MD5 (./to_burn/kick.a4000.46.143-hi.bin) = 32be5d149e9a0c3756d79c60b33424f5

and if I re-download the zip from Hyperion's downloads section:

MD5 (./unsplit_unswapped/kick.a4000.46.143) = cb79799c9adb2e8f8962fdf07562b362
MD5 (./to_burn/kick.a4000.46.143-lo.bin) = b8a32680ad3599b182a46859ed2e3d44
MD5 (./to_burn/kick.a4000.46.143-hi.bin) = 70bef7388ecbdd0be6fccb7a1c55035d

I also compared the ADF images, but they are all the same as before, it's just the ROM files that changed.

25 October 2018, 19:06	#424
kolla Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 1,893	Interesting is also that yours says developed under license, and not all rights reserved.

25 October 2018, 20:21	#425
betajaen Registered User Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Wales, UK Age: 42 Posts: 102	Bought on 2018-09-30 AmigaOS 3.1.4 for 68K Amiga 1200: kick.a1200.46.143 : 6de08cd5c5efd926d0a7643e8fb776fe So it has changed... p.s. I did a quick video/tutorial today for oscillik, On how to use Remus with the 3.1.4 ROM for the intutiton.library. I thought it be useful to post it here to, just in case anyone wants to know. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/327221503 Last edited by betajaen; 25 October 2018 at 20:24. Reason: remus video

25 October 2018, 21:35	#437
kolla Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 1,893	I have the "old" A500/A600/A2000 kickstart... Code: MD5 (emulation_or_maprom/kick.a500.46.143) = 7fe1eb0ba2b767659bf547bfb40d67c4 MD5 (to_burn/kick.a500a600a2000.46.143.bin) = 93acf1c6add079bebf8dc48d47a4d182

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25 October 2018, 17:36	#422
Madk71 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Essex Posts: 56	Ok, I'll try this too and I'll let you know. Thank you so much for your help.

25 October 2018, 18:56	#423
oscillik Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: UK Posts: 50	Could someone who bought this BEFORE they switched online store providers, please post an MD5 of the kick.a1200.46.143 file? I'm trying to use Remus to split the ROM and get the new Intuition up and running, and I keep getting hit with ROM Unsupported. I have a feeling something has changed, because all the videos showcasing this have slightly different copyright notices: Here's a screenshot from AmigaBill's video https://i.imgur.com/lyQSeMy.png And here's a screenshot from my Kickstart screen https://i.imgur.com/hpIUWr8.png I bought my copy of 3.1.4 after the changeover to a new ecommerce store, and notice how mine says copyright Hyperion Entertainment CVBA, as opposed to copyright Hyperion Entertainment? My MD5 is kick.a1200.46.143 : 79bfe8876cd5abe397c50f60ea4306b9

25 October 2018, 20:41	#429
kolla Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 1,893	I'm curious about which license this is supposedly developed under. Is this also a sign of Hyperion admitting that they do not have exclusive rights to OS3 sources and development, trying to back-paddle earlier statements?

25 October 2018, 20:53	#430
betajaen Registered User Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Wales, UK Age: 42 Posts: 102	I would think it's a bit more innocent, that they didn't put the legal mumbo-jumbo in correctly and had to be updated.

25 October 2018, 20:59	#432
betajaen Registered User Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Wales, UK Age: 42 Posts: 102	I looked into for you to see if I could make a split file for that version. But the files are in binary, and romtools on Github does go into a lot of information, but it seems a lot of it is handy work, and can't be automated. I think we need to call in a higher power, and see if they can update the file.

25 October 2018, 21:07	#436
betajaen Registered User Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Wales, UK Age: 42 Posts: 102	No, it seems there are two versions for the same 3.1.4 ROM, which both can be kicked in to Fast RAM as with any other Kickstart. The later version seems to have some copyright text changes on the Insert Disk purple screen. This changed the checksum of the ROM. Remus only works with the earlier version of the ROM, and can't work with the newer version because the checksum is different. Thus can't be customised with the alternate intuition library. For now; if you have the older version; MD5: 6de08cd5c5efd926d0a7643e8fb776fe then your okay, and customise the ROM. If you have the newer version; MD5 79bfe8876cd5abe397c50f60ea4306b9 then you may have to wait, until Remus is updated.

25 October 2018, 21:54	#438
oscillik Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: UK Posts: 50	Honestly, I'm wishing I had bought this when I found out about it! Damn wages. Now I'm using this weird one with the weird copyright notice

26 October 2018, 06:05	#439
modrobert old bearded fool Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bangkok Age: 56 Posts: 779	I guess it needs to be riddled with copyright notices, no source code in sight, and mismatching ROM checksums to give that authentic Commodore feeling.

26 October 2018, 11:07	#440
cmsj Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: London / UK Posts: 166	These are from before the takedown: MD5 (./emulation_or_maprom/kick.a4000.46.143) = 7431253a40972a3340197c7cc6a28daf MD5 (./to_burn/kick.a4000.46.143-lo.bin) = b1334500c4f7166c57cb608985e58ee9 MD5 (./to_burn/kick.a4000.46.143-hi.bin) = 32be5d149e9a0c3756d79c60b33424f5 and if I re-download the zip from Hyperion's downloads section: MD5 (./unsplit_unswapped/kick.a4000.46.143) = cb79799c9adb2e8f8962fdf07562b362 MD5 (./to_burn/kick.a4000.46.143-lo.bin) = b8a32680ad3599b182a46859ed2e3d44 MD5 (./to_burn/kick.a4000.46.143-hi.bin) = 70bef7388ecbdd0be6fccb7a1c55035d I also compared the ADF images, but they are all the same as before, it's just the ROM files that changed.

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