Record music via WinUAE... stereo separation?

1988 · 08 May 2015, 14:30

Hi,

the default settings for stereo separation are 70%...

So if i want to record a tune in original quality i have to set the value to 100% right?

Thanks!

Michael Sykes · 08 May 2015, 15:54

I would say 100% are full stereo.
And 0% is mono.

ransom1122 · 09 May 2015, 00:00

Hmm I've never noticed that. Why isn't winuae default settings set at 100% then?

Toni Wilen · 09 May 2015, 08:01

Because default would sound super-extremely-horrible when using headphones.

ransom1122 · 09 May 2015, 08:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Because default would sound super-extremely-horrible when using headphones.

Wouldn't that sound the same way if you use headphones on a real amiga?

Toni Wilen · 09 May 2015, 09:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by ransom1122

Wouldn't that sound the same way if you use headphones on a real amiga?

Yes but headphone mixers existed too. Try it with 100% separation. I guarantee you'll hate it very soon

Anything that does not affect Amiga-side compatibility can be modified, not to necessarily make it exactly accurate only because you can.

ransom1122 · 09 May 2015, 09:26

Wether you like it or not. Is the separation at 100% exact sound emulation?

I used a 1084S Stereo Monitor with my a500 and I recall using headphones and still being amazed by the sound of the amiga.

Toni Wilen · 09 May 2015, 09:45

1084S schematics shows resistor (potentiometer labeled "balance") connected between R and L lines that will mix channels. No idea how much but some.

Unless you plug your headphones directly to Amiga outputs (which won't work, you need some amplification and I am quite sure any headphone adapter will do some mixing), there is no guarantee what happens.

EDIT: It is same thing as video output. Amiga is internally fully digital so "real" output would be 100% pixel perfect which is not what you actually see on real hardware, it depends on output device, connection and if you have internal or external flicker fixer and so on. It is user's choice.

ransom1122 · 09 May 2015, 10:08

Understood & Thank you

mark_k · 09 May 2015, 10:33

If you're looking to record from WinUAE, I'd definitely do it with 100% stereo separation. You can always mix the audio it to your satisfaction later on, but if you record with < 100% separation, you can't undo that later.

Michael Sykes · 09 May 2015, 14:49

Good point from mark k. If you want a raw recording to edit later, thats it.
But what if my (old) mp3 player has no mixing option and I'm a bit lazy editing the track on the PC?
I'd say recording with 30% stereo is just fine for headphone use.

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08 May 2015, 15:54	#2
Michael Sykes WinUAE end user Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Bremen Age: 44 Posts: 649	I would say 100% are full stereo. And 0% is mono.

09 May 2015, 00:00	#3
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,812	Hmm I've never noticed that. Why isn't winuae default settings set at 100% then?

09 May 2015, 08:01	#4
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	Because default would sound super-extremely-horrible when using headphones.

09 May 2015, 09:26	#7
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,812	Wether you like it or not. Is the separation at 100% exact sound emulation? I used a 1084S Stereo Monitor with my a500 and I recall using headphones and still being amazed by the sound of the amiga.

09 May 2015, 09:45	#8
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	1084S schematics shows resistor (potentiometer labeled "balance") connected between R and L lines that will mix channels. No idea how much but some. Unless you plug your headphones directly to Amiga outputs (which won't work, you need some amplification and I am quite sure any headphone adapter will do some mixing), there is no guarantee what happens. EDIT: It is same thing as video output. Amiga is internally fully digital so "real" output would be 100% pixel perfect which is not what you actually see on real hardware, it depends on output device, connection and if you have internal or external flicker fixer and so on. It is user's choice.

09 May 2015, 10:08	#9
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,812	Understood & Thank you

09 May 2015, 10:33	#10
mark_k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Posts: 3,333	If you're looking to record from WinUAE, I'd definitely do it with 100% stereo separation. You can always mix the audio it to your satisfaction later on, but if you record with < 100% separation, you can't undo that later.

09 May 2015, 14:49	#11
Michael Sykes WinUAE end user Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Bremen Age: 44 Posts: 649	Good point from mark k. If you want a raw recording to edit later, thats it. But what if my (old) mp3 player has no mixing option and I'm a bit lazy editing the track on the PC? I'd say recording with 30% stereo is just fine for headphone use.

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