A600 help

jaymond · 26 October 2010, 17:45

Hi I've recently purchase an Amiga 600 and CF Card ti IDE controller.

When I connected it all up and powered on, all I get is a black screen, without the CF card inserted to the controller, everything works as normal.

What is the matter here?

Thanks

Cosmos · 26 October 2010, 17:54

>without the CF card inserted to the controller

Without the CF card inserted or without the CF adapter inserted ?

My first CF adapter give me no boot like you... Was not working... With a new one, all become ok !

jaymond · 26 October 2010, 17:58

With the card in the controller, black screen

Without the card in the controller, Insert floppy screen.

It's annoying

Do I need to format the card? And if so how?

Thanks

Zetr0 · 26 October 2010, 18:01

@jaymod

Welcome to EAB, can you take some pictures of your setup and post them - we might be able to help better.

What type of Adapter do you have - 40 pin male / 44 pin male or socketed female?

there could be issues with the socket and device so we need to see some pics =D

fitzsteve · 26 October 2010, 18:23

I've had the same problem in an A600, I had to use another CF-IDE adapter.

jaymond · 26 October 2010, 18:35

Hi now it has decided to boot up with everything connected, I saw an LED flash red on the controller, but how do I prepare this drive?

Thanks

Peter · 26 October 2010, 18:36

What make of CF card do you have?

I have just bought a Trancend 2GB brand new card... and it doesn't work in any of my my Amiga's - it crashes Winuae as well... strange as Trancend cards are normally reliable.

jaymond · 26 October 2010, 18:39

Kingston 2gb..

jaymond · 26 October 2010, 18:40

How clean is that?! Shame about the yellow psu but everything is brand new almost from the looks of it...

Peter · 26 October 2010, 18:49

You need to make sure that the ROM chip your A600 has is able to support a Hard Drive or CF card - the ROM should have a revision number on it...

I think you may be best to prepare your CF card in Winuae unless you have a Workbench disk set which includes an install disk.

Classic Workbench offers a very decent 68K A600 set up but you would also need a 1MB RAM expansion to use it.

See here for details....

http://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/68k.htm

jaymond · 26 October 2010, 18:51

I have 37.300 ROM it seems. Thats what it says on the television set.

How do I prepare a card in WINUAE?

Thanks

Zetr0 · 26 October 2010, 18:56

@jaymond

Excelent Stuff

Glad it was an easy re-connect-everything-and-its-dog- fixes =D

Alas I cannot go through the "fun" of setting up a CF card with you yet as I dont have the time atm =( - but there are plenty of threads and fellow forum chummies on here that wil help you lots and lots =)

but a quick synopis will see you set up the CF as a hardrive under WinUAE and then copy it to the CF card -

I suggest reviewing things KGWHDLoad & ClassicWorkbench

jaymond · 26 October 2010, 19:01

Oh thats a shame, would have been great if you'd have been able to help as these guides dont seem too easy to understand

I've never dealt with Amigas before, only PC's running Windows.

jaymond · 26 October 2010, 20:15

What am I doing wrong? This a600 wont assemble back together properly...the bottom bit under the space bar....leaves a huge gap when the top end is clipped in to place!

cosmicfrog · 26 October 2010, 20:22

look in tools for HDToolbox

Now the problem here is if you only have 3 disks for WorkBench you wont have the install disk to set up your CF/HDD
so that means HDToolbox won`t be in your Tools dir

out of intrest which version of WB2 do you have ?? 2.04, 2.05 or the better 2.1 all of which will run on your A600

Forget which version of classicWB is for the 68000 but know the green alien version will work

If you get really stuck just ask

jaymond · 26 October 2010, 20:23

This case assembly is doing my head in now, theres a gap between it

I have WB 2.05

Peter · 26 October 2010, 20:37

The A600 is a bit difficult to re-assemble - it takes a bit of perseverance and patience - it's trial and error I'm afraid.

jaymond · 26 October 2010, 20:50

Got there eventually but the disk reading light appears to have snapped.Elecrical tape or solder? hmmms its a right old bugger cos it's so tiny

fitzsteve · 26 October 2010, 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaymond

This case assembly is doing my head in now, theres a gap between it

I have WB 2.05

Keyboard wasn't in right, but I guess you found that now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaymond

Got there eventually but the disk reading light appears to have snapped.Elecrical tape or solder? hmmms its a right old bugger cos it's so tiny

Solder job, but should be simple. Happens all the time to these LED's.

A600's are a pain in that sense. Still think they're cute little Miggy's though.

I'd be happy to setup your CF card if you want to send it to me, have done quite a few now for various people.

I will write a guide at some point but busy preparing my Amiga's for the Retr0 Replay event as some of are exhibiting.

Steve.

jaymond · 26 October 2010, 21:21

Yeh the orange cable has snapped so I guess thats the disk reading wire, should be an easy fix.

I've whacked the cf card back on eBay, it's naughty to sell stuff on there straight after buying it?

If it doesn't sell I'll be most grateful if you could help me out.

Thanks.

26 October 2010, 17:45	#1
jaymond Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 12	A600 help Hi I've recently purchase an Amiga 600 and CF Card ti IDE controller. When I connected it all up and powered on, all I get is a black screen, without the CF card inserted to the controller, everything works as normal. What is the matter here? Thanks

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26 October 2010, 17:54	#2
Cosmos Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: France Posts: 655	>without the CF card inserted to the controller Without the CF card inserted or without the CF adapter inserted ? My first CF adapter give me no boot like you... Was not working... With a new one, all become ok !

26 October 2010, 17:58	#3
jaymond Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 12	With the card in the controller, black screen Without the card in the controller, Insert floppy screen. It's annoying Do I need to format the card? And if so how? Thanks

26 October 2010, 18:01	#4
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@jaymod Welcome to EAB, can you take some pictures of your setup and post them - we might be able to help better. What type of Adapter do you have - 40 pin male / 44 pin male or socketed female? there could be issues with the socket and device so we need to see some pics =D

26 October 2010, 18:23	#5
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	I've had the same problem in an A600, I had to use another CF-IDE adapter.

26 October 2010, 18:35	#6
jaymond Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 12	Hi now it has decided to boot up with everything connected, I saw an LED flash red on the controller, but how do I prepare this drive? Thanks

26 October 2010, 18:36	#7
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	What make of CF card do you have? I have just bought a Trancend 2GB brand new card... and it doesn't work in any of my my Amiga's - it crashes Winuae as well... strange as Trancend cards are normally reliable.

26 October 2010, 18:39	#8
jaymond Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 12	Kingston 2gb..

26 October 2010, 18:40	#9
jaymond Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 12	How clean is that?! Shame about the yellow psu but everything is brand new almost from the looks of it...

26 October 2010, 18:49	#10
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	You need to make sure that the ROM chip your A600 has is able to support a Hard Drive or CF card - the ROM should have a revision number on it... I think you may be best to prepare your CF card in Winuae unless you have a Workbench disk set which includes an install disk. Classic Workbench offers a very decent 68K A600 set up but you would also need a 1MB RAM expansion to use it. See here for details.... http://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/68k.htm

26 October 2010, 18:51	#11
jaymond Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 12	I have 37.300 ROM it seems. Thats what it says on the television set. How do I prepare a card in WINUAE? Thanks

26 October 2010, 18:56	#12
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@jaymond Excelent Stuff Glad it was an easy re-connect-everything-and-its-dog- fixes =D Alas I cannot go through the "fun" of setting up a CF card with you yet as I dont have the time atm =( - but there are plenty of threads and fellow forum chummies on here that wil help you lots and lots =) but a quick synopis will see you set up the CF as a hardrive under WinUAE and then copy it to the CF card - I suggest reviewing things KGWHDLoad & ClassicWorkbench

26 October 2010, 19:01	#13
jaymond Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 12	Oh thats a shame, would have been great if you'd have been able to help as these guides dont seem too easy to understand I've never dealt with Amigas before, only PC's running Windows.

26 October 2010, 20:15	#14
jaymond Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 12	What am I doing wrong? This a600 wont assemble back together properly...the bottom bit under the space bar....leaves a huge gap when the top end is clipped in to place!

26 October 2010, 20:22	#15
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	look in tools for HDToolbox Now the problem here is if you only have 3 disks for WorkBench you wont have the install disk to set up your CF/HDD so that means HDToolbox won`t be in your Tools dir out of intrest which version of WB2 do you have ?? 2.04, 2.05 or the better 2.1 all of which will run on your A600 Forget which version of classicWB is for the 68000 but know the green alien version will work If you get really stuck just ask

26 October 2010, 20:23	#16
jaymond Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 12	This case assembly is doing my head in now, theres a gap between it I have WB 2.05

26 October 2010, 20:37	#17
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	The A600 is a bit difficult to re-assemble - it takes a bit of perseverance and patience - it's trial and error I'm afraid.

26 October 2010, 20:50	#18
jaymond Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 12	Got there eventually but the disk reading light appears to have snapped.Elecrical tape or solder? hmmms its a right old bugger cos it's so tiny

26 October 2010, 21:21	#20
jaymond Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 12	Yeh the orange cable has snapped so I guess thats the disk reading wire, should be an easy fix. I've whacked the cf card back on eBay, it's naughty to sell stuff on there straight after buying it? If it doesn't sell I'll be most grateful if you could help me out. Thanks.

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