Some Mediator 4000Di questions

[drluking]

- this is showconfig:

PROCESSOR: CPU 68060/68060fpu/68060mmu
CUSTOM CHIPS: AA PAL Alice (id=$0023), AA Lisa (id=$00F8)
VERS: Kickstart version 45.57, Exec version 45.20, Disk version 45.5
RAM: Node type $A, Attributes $5 (FAST), at $8000000-$FFFFFFF (128.0 meg)
Node type $A, Attributes $505 (FAST), at $7000000-$7FFFFFF (16.0 meg)
Node type $A, Attributes $703 (CHIP), at $4000-$1FFFFF (~2.0 meg)
BOARDS:
Board (Index Information Ltd): Prod=2206/161($89E/$A1)
(@$40000000, size 256meg, subsize same)
Board (Index Information Ltd): Prod=2206/33($89E/$21)
(@$50000000, size 16meg, subsize same)
Board + ROM (HD?) (unidentified): Prod=8738/35($2222/$23) (@$EA0000 128K)
Board (Individual Computers): Prod=4626/100($1212/$64)
(@$54000000, size 64meg, subsize 64K)

- this is P96 settings (not very useful I think):

BorderBlank=NO
MEMORYCLOCK=143
(Quiet)
BigSprite=NO
BoardType=Voodoo
DisplayChain=YES
FakeNativeModes=NO
FontsFix=NO
GrantDirectAccess=NO
IgnoreMask=Yes
NoBlitter=NO
NoPlanar2ChunkyBlits=NO
OverClock=NO
SettingsFile=SYSevs/Picasso96Settings.voodoo
SoftSprite=NO
System2ScreenBlits=NO

- this is pci.library used:

version pci.library
pci.library 13.1

- this is when I have Voodoo3 video output:

pciinfo

Pci Device 1:
VendorID: $121a
VendorName: 3dfx Interactive Inc
DeviceID: $5
DeviceName: Voodoo3 All Voodoo3 chips, 3000
ClassCode: $30000
RevisionID: $1
InterruptPin: 2
SubsystemVendorID: $121a
SubsystemID: $36
MemSpace0: $40000000 - $41ffffff
MemSpace1: $42000000 - $43ffffff
IOSpace2: $50c06000 - $50c060ff
RomSpace: $44000000 - $44007fff

- this is when I have NOT Voodoo3 video output (PAL video output):

pciinfo
No PCI devices in Mediator


- top of my startup-sequence

SYS:C/remapolloscsi.exe
SYS:C/dtack

If Exists C:IDEFix
C:IDEFix
EndIf

FailAt 21
C:LoadResident >NIL: DEVS:trackdisk.device L:KingCON-Handler
FailAt 20

C:LoadModule >NIL: DEVS:scsi.device DEVS:battmem.resource DEVS:console.device DEVS:FileSystem.resource DEVS:misc.resource DEVSotgo.resource L:FastFileSystem L:Ram-Handler L:Shell-Seg LIBS:dos.library LIBS:layers.library REVERSE NOREBOOT
C:SetPatch SKIPROMUPDATES scsi.device,console.device,dos,filesystem,FileSystem.resource,ram-handler,shell QUIET

[drluking]

test of this morning, all the steps done:

-1 power on A4000 -->> all fine I have Voodoo 640x480 16bit

-2 reboot A4000 (CRTL+AMIGA+AMIGA key press)

-3 again all fine I have Voodoo 640x480 16bit

-4 reboot A4000 (CRTL+AMIGA+AMIGA key press)

-5 PAL output and pciinfo tell "No PCI devices in Mediator")

-6 reboot A4000 (CRTL+AMIGA+AMIGA key press)

-7 all fine I have Voodoo 640x480 16bit

-8 reboot A4000 (CRTL+AMIGA+AMIGA key press)

-9 PAL output and pciinfo tell "No PCI devices in Mediator")

-10 reboot A4000 (CRTL+AMIGA+AMIGA key press)

-11 PAL output and pciinfo tell "No PCI devices in Mediator")

-12 power off the Amiga ...

note1: Voodoo3 card has 2 fans (one in its heatsink and one on the back of the card where there is the metal square of the GPU) and the whole graphic card is completely cold (It's in PCI 2 slot)

note2: Jumper MASTER = CLOSED , Jumper WINSIZE = OPEN , Jumper SWAPCONFIG = CLOSED

[spudje]

Contact Elbox, it's your Mediator that needs a fix. I had the same behaviour, mediator not working after reboots. I returned it and they fixed it.

[drluking]

Originally Posted by spudje

Contact Elbox, it's your Mediator that needs a fix. I had the same behaviour, mediator not working after reboots. I returned it and they fixed it.

Ok thanks, I'll contact amigastore.eu and Elbox; I have received this Mediator 4000Di 3V this week, I'll ask a new one full working in place of this not working ...
I hope they will solve the problem very quickly; I lost days of work to make it work and I do not want to have to wait weeks again ... I'm already quite angry

[spudje]

They will not provide you with a replacement. They'll ask you to send it to Elbox for repair.

[Hedeon]

I think it is correct. I cannot check it on my machine atm. I seem to remember that the VooDoo4 also uses double the amount it really has.

Originally Posted by drluking

It's a 3dfx Voodoo3 2000 PCI (16 MB SGRAM) Graphics Card exactly this one done in "Mexico"
https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/...iXH/s-l225.jpg

but a thing interesting, MemSpace0 is 32Mb and MemSpace1 also 32Mb ; Is It correct ?

pciinfo

Pci Device 1:
VendorID: $121a
VendorName: 3dfx Interactive Inc
DeviceID: $5
DeviceName: Voodoo3 All Voodoo3 chips, 3000
ClassCode: $30000
RevisionID: $1
InterruptPin: 2
SubsystemVendorID: $121a
SubsystemID: $36
MemSpace0: $40000000 - $41ffffff
MemSpace1: $42000000 - $43ffffff
IOSpace2: $50c06000 - $50c060ff
RomSpace: $44000000 - $44007fff

[Hedeon]

I'm sure you also tested it with a minimal startup-sequence without all the extra modules, StartupWB and user-startup? (btw watch out regarding disabling scsi and/or fastfilesystem (if you use FFS, that is)).

Did you also seat the mediator itself correctly? Also the mediator logic board? Zorro slot is clean?

Originally Posted by drluking

test of this morning, all the steps done:

-1 power on A4000 -->> all fine I have Voodoo 640x480 16bit

-2 reboot A4000 (CRTL+AMIGA+AMIGA key press)

-3 again all fine I have Voodoo 640x480 16bit

-4 reboot A4000 (CRTL+AMIGA+AMIGA key press)

-5 PAL output and pciinfo tell "No PCI devices in Mediator")

-6 reboot A4000 (CRTL+AMIGA+AMIGA key press)

-7 all fine I have Voodoo 640x480 16bit

-8 reboot A4000 (CRTL+AMIGA+AMIGA key press)

-9 PAL output and pciinfo tell "No PCI devices in Mediator")

-10 reboot A4000 (CRTL+AMIGA+AMIGA key press)

-11 PAL output and pciinfo tell "No PCI devices in Mediator")

-12 power off the Amiga ...

note1: Voodoo3 card has 2 fans (one in its heatsink and one on the back of the card where there is the metal square of the GPU) and the whole graphic card is completely cold (It's in PCI 2 slot)

note2: Jumper MASTER = CLOSED , Jumper WINSIZE = OPEN , Jumper SWAPCONFIG = CLOSED

[grelbfarlk]

My PCIID:

Pci Device 6:
VendorID: $121a
VendorName: 3dfx Interactive Inc
DeviceID: $5
DeviceName: Voodoo3 All Voodoo3 chips, 3000
ClassCode: $30000
RevisionID: $1
InterruptPin: 3
SubsystemVendorID: $121a
SubsystemID: $57
MemSpace0: $62000000 - $63ffffff
MemSpace1: $64000000 - $65ffffff
IOSpace2: $40c06200 - $40c062ff
RomSpace: $60300000 - $6030ffff

Though I don't know why my RomSpace is larger.
If you ever need to check stuff against my config:
https://github.com/Sakura-IT/SonnetA...ki/Good-Config

[drluking]

Originally Posted by Hedeon

I think it is correct. I cannot check it on my machine atm. I seem to remember that the VooDoo4 also uses double the amount it really has.

yes It's correct

[drluking]

Originally Posted by Hedeon

I'm sure you also tested it with a minimal startup-sequence without all the extra modules, StartupWB and user-startup? (btw watch out regarding disabling scsi and/or fastfilesystem (if you use FFS, that is)).

yes

Did you also seat the mediator itself correctly?

yes

Also the mediator logic board?

yes

Zorro slot is clean?

yes

[drluking]

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

My PCIID:

Pci Device 6:
VendorID: $121a
VendorName: 3dfx Interactive Inc
DeviceID: $5
DeviceName: Voodoo3 All Voodoo3 chips, 3000
ClassCode: $30000
RevisionID: $1
InterruptPin: 3
SubsystemVendorID: $121a
SubsystemID: $57
MemSpace0: $62000000 - $63ffffff
MemSpace1: $64000000 - $65ffffff
IOSpace2: $40c06200 - $40c062ff
RomSpace: $60300000 - $6030ffff

Though I don't know why my RomSpace is larger.
If you ever need to check stuff against my config:
https://github.com/Sakura-IT/SonnetA...ki/Good-Config

interesting, probably you have a different Voodoo3 model ?
I know graphic cards can use different size of EPROM; your is 64kb, mine is 32kb.
Do I need to try to flash a different ROM file in it ?

[drluking]

Originally Posted by spudje

They will not provide you with a replacement. They'll ask you to send it to Elbox for repair.

I hope no, mine is new, I've only been there for a few days ...
I have contacted this morning Elbox and Amigastore; waiting their answares

[drluking]

Originally Posted by drluking

interesting, probably you have a different Voodoo3 model ?
I know graphic cards can use different size of EPROM; your is 64kb, mine is 32kb.
Do I need to try to flash a different ROM file in it ?

found this website http://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/3dfx/voodoo3/bios/roms/

there are three ROM 32kb (2.15.06SG, 1.00.05SG, 1.00.01SG) for Voodoo3 16mb SGRAM

mine is SGRAM version model 210-0382-003
http://falconfly.3dfx.pl/identify-3dfx.htm
http://falconfly.3dfx.pl/identify/Vo...I_(SG-RAM).jpg

useful try to flash the Voodoo3 PCI card ? -->> I do not think sincerely because already now with its default BIOS Tt works very well in a Windows PC, but if useful I could try this too ...

[strim]

I find it highly unlikely that BIOS matters at all for Amiga 68k driver. After all it is x86 machine code, that is never executed on Amiga (unlike on NG systems that have x86 emulations in their firmware).

[drluking]

Originally Posted by strim

I find it highly unlikely that BIOS matters at all for Amiga 68k driver. After all it is x86 machine code, that is never executed on Amiga (unlike on NG systems that have x86 emulations in their firmware).

in fact ... and then I have checked now; my voodoo3 already has the BIOS 2.15.06SG version (last version).
I have also tested the Voodoo3 on a Windows PC with some 3D games and it works perfectly, reboot also, so it is really a hardware problem of the Mediator 4000Di 3V I have bought; then We await so the response of Elbox and amigastore.

[trixster]

I also believe it is a hardware issue with your mediator. mine occasionally does the same as yours where the voodoo is not recognised after a ctrl-amiga-amiga. i need to get around to sending it back to elbox for a repair.

[spudje]

Originally Posted by drluking

I hope no, mine is new, I've only been there for a few days ...
I have contacted this morning Elbox and Amigastore; waiting their answares

So was mine, brand new. Still had to return it for a fix, not a replacement. I ended up contacting Elbox directly cause the store didn't do anything (the store was amiga-shop.net/Alinea).