What are JST games?

liquidsmoke · 24 October 2019, 19:10

i was looking on the grantis ftp site, and alongside WHDload games is a folder containing games in JST format

what are those?

malko · 24 October 2019, 19:48

http://jffabre.free.fr/amiga/patches.html

&

http://obligement.free.fr/articles/itwfabre.php

Retro1234 · 24 October 2019, 20:00

JST was before WHDload but was recently updated, JST can even run WHDload slaves and works on Kick 1.3 and also a feature to remap Keys to CD32 controller.

turrican3 · 25 October 2019, 00:22

JST rocks !!!

his installations for games on hd made me stay on amiga.

JST rulez !!!

jotd · 25 October 2019, 21:10

To be exact, WHDLoad was created before JST (a few months before AFAIR). I think John Girvin (?) convinced me to start my own game loader system after Abaddon & I used some link code to create standalone installers.

Now the main interest of JST is to run whdload games on kickstart 1.3, and with controller remap. But there are also bugs/limitations. Favor whdload if you don't need JST.

Retro1234 · 25 October 2019, 21:16

Never knew that had loads of JST installs back in the day mainly from Amiga Format CDs but only remember a few WHDload installs.

jotd · 25 October 2019, 21:45

Many games were available as HD installed as JST first, then were rewritten using whdload (using or not the original JST source for hints)

Then Harry created some macros to help us convert JST slaves to whdload slaves easily (that helped to convert the bulk of JST slaves I had written which didn't exist in whdload format). That helped me to focus on writing whdload slaves instead of wasting my time trying to make JST better than whdload

Then I slowly dropped that macro system to create real whdload source code slaves (much better). Been doing this for almost 20 years now.

malko · 25 October 2019, 23:14

Regarding this thread, hope that you will have some time in a near future for a new JST release (6.2 ?)

Frog · 26 October 2019, 00:50

JST was also nice to launch game/tool/exe file that don't run on Amiga 1200 directly from from the workbench

Retro1234 · 26 October 2019, 10:45

Some games also ran on low specs with Lowmem and HDLoad

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frog

JST was also nice to launch game/tool/exe file that don't run on Amiga 1200 directly from from the workbench

Forgot about that JST execute

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24 October 2019, 19:48	#2
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	http://jffabre.free.fr/amiga/patches.html & http://obligement.free.fr/articles/itwfabre.php

24 October 2019, 20:00	#3
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	JST was before WHDload but was recently updated, JST can even run WHDload slaves and works on Kick 1.3 and also a feature to remap Keys to CD32 controller.

25 October 2019, 00:22	#4
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	JST rocks !!! his installations for games on hd made me stay on amiga. JST rulez !!!

25 October 2019, 21:10	#5
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	To be exact, WHDLoad was created before JST (a few months before AFAIR). I think John Girvin (?) convinced me to start my own game loader system after Abaddon & I used some link code to create standalone installers. Now the main interest of JST is to run whdload games on kickstart 1.3, and with controller remap. But there are also bugs/limitations. Favor whdload if you don't need JST.

25 October 2019, 21:16	#6
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Never knew that had loads of JST installs back in the day mainly from Amiga Format CDs but only remember a few WHDload installs.

25 October 2019, 21:45	#7
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	Many games were available as HD installed as JST first, then were rewritten using whdload (using or not the original JST source for hints) Then Harry created some macros to help us convert JST slaves to whdload slaves easily (that helped to convert the bulk of JST slaves I had written which didn't exist in whdload format). That helped me to focus on writing whdload slaves instead of wasting my time trying to make JST better than whdload Then I slowly dropped that macro system to create real whdload source code slaves (much better). Been doing this for almost 20 years now.

25 October 2019, 23:14	#8
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	Regarding this thread, hope that you will have some time in a near future for a new JST release (6.2 ?)

26 October 2019, 00:50	#9
Frog Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,385	JST was also nice to launch game/tool/exe file that don't run on Amiga 1200 directly from from the workbench

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