new packs questions

Kyon · 24 December 2009, 18:28

hi i downloaded new packs and i have some questions
why new pack bigger than old packs i say that with an example like old full pack 30.xxx mb but new pack 50.xxx mb and another question why classicwb uae using old winuae version (1.2.0) ? its a mistake ? because old pack using newer version. thanks my friend for this xmas presents

Bloodwych · 24 December 2009, 18:48

The packs now include an iGame artpack which makes them a lot bigger, 20MB bigger! The artpack files are either installed or deleted during the activation procedure. The HDF's have been increased from 256 to 512MB also.

No, using WinUAE 1.2.0 was not an error. This version works best for the UAE beginners pack - it's faster and more compatible with the provided setup/configs and this pack is aimed at those who just want something that works with WHDLoad. I had problems with Tinymeter's CPU monitoring and slowdowns also on later versions and beginners may not be able to solve this:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=49659

Experienced users can easy replace the executable and see, if any, problems that get introduced with later WinUAE versions.

In essence, the 1.2.0 pack is the "safe" option with the least issues under this setup, and if people notice slowdowns and pauses with later WinUAE versions I can ask them to use the 1.2.0 pack. This is the standard benchmark and the one I trust fully as it's been very well tested by myself for Workbench and WHDLoad use.

Bloodwych · 24 December 2009, 18:53

I'll just add that as I get more testing under my belt with WinUAE 2.0.1+, I will update this pack. But at the moment, I'm more comfortable using this older version.

Kyon · 24 December 2009, 18:56

thanks for the very good answers my friend

now i know everything

Bloodwych · 18 January 2010, 20:09

Updated the UAE pack to use the latest WinUAE. Some people were having problems with the older version in Windows 7 64bit, so the new pack is the way to go.

Plus I've already had about 10 people asking me why the pack doesn't use the latest WinUAE and should they update it. Seems like common sense you can use whatever version you want, but I'm just including the latest to stop peeps asking.

Kyon · 18 January 2010, 20:15

thanks

the problems are solved ?

Toni Wilen · 18 January 2010, 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

Updated the UAE pack to use the latest WinUAE. Some people were having problems with the older version in Windows 7 64bit, so the new pack is the way to go.

I never understand this.. Everyone always blames 64-bitness, whatever the problem..

I have been using 64-bit Windows since Windows XP 64-bit and I had Vista 64-bit and Win 7 64-bit when first public beta was released.. There is no way the problem is 64-bit Windows.

Bloodwych · 18 January 2010, 20:19

Kyon - depends - try it and see.

It still has issues with Tinymeter's CPU monitoring, but that is disabled by default anyway.

Plus there is no reason not to make use of Toni's constant improvements to the brilliant WinUAE. If there are problems, then at least we are moving forward and not living in the past.

Bloodwych · 18 January 2010, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

I never understand this.. Everyone always blames 64-bitness, whatever the problem..

I have been using 64-bit Windows since Windows XP 64-bit and I had Vista 64-bit and Win 7 64-bit when first public beta was released.. There is no way the problem is 64-bit Windows.

I'm with you Toni, but some have reported that when they replaced WinUAE 1.2.0 with 2.0.1 that their problems went away. Here is one example, but I've had some pm's as well:

http://forum.classicamiga.com/forum/...ead.php?t=3889

I'm happy to use the latest pack anyway. Like I said, it's all about moving forward plus I get to help test your latest release.

Kyon · 18 January 2010, 20:30

ok thanks for the info i updated it

24 December 2009, 18:28	#1
Kyon Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOS Brigade Age: 32 Posts: 696	new packs questions hi i downloaded new packs and i have some questions why new pack bigger than old packs i say that with an example like old full pack 30.xxx mb but new pack 50.xxx mb and another question why classicwb uae using old winuae version (1.2.0) ? its a mistake ? because old pack using newer version. thanks my friend for this xmas presents

24 December 2009, 18:48	#2
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	The packs now include an iGame artpack which makes them a lot bigger, 20MB bigger! The artpack files are either installed or deleted during the activation procedure. The HDF's have been increased from 256 to 512MB also. No, using WinUAE 1.2.0 was not an error. This version works best for the UAE beginners pack - it's faster and more compatible with the provided setup/configs and this pack is aimed at those who just want something that works with WHDLoad. I had problems with Tinymeter's CPU monitoring and slowdowns also on later versions and beginners may not be able to solve this: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=49659 Experienced users can easy replace the executable and see, if any, problems that get introduced with later WinUAE versions. In essence, the 1.2.0 pack is the "safe" option with the least issues under this setup, and if people notice slowdowns and pauses with later WinUAE versions I can ask them to use the 1.2.0 pack. This is the standard benchmark and the one I trust fully as it's been very well tested by myself for Workbench and WHDLoad use. Last edited by Bloodwych; 24 December 2009 at 19:02.

18 January 2010, 20:19	#8
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Kyon - depends - try it and see. It still has issues with Tinymeter's CPU monitoring, but that is disabled by default anyway. Plus there is no reason not to make use of Toni's constant improvements to the brilliant WinUAE. If there are problems, then at least we are moving forward and not living in the past. Last edited by Bloodwych; 18 January 2010 at 20:41.

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24 December 2009, 18:53	#3
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	I'll just add that as I get more testing under my belt with WinUAE 2.0.1+, I will update this pack. But at the moment, I'm more comfortable using this older version.

24 December 2009, 18:56	#4
Kyon Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOS Brigade Age: 32 Posts: 696	thanks for the very good answers my friend now i know everything

18 January 2010, 20:09	#5
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Updated the UAE pack to use the latest WinUAE. Some people were having problems with the older version in Windows 7 64bit, so the new pack is the way to go. Plus I've already had about 10 people asking me why the pack doesn't use the latest WinUAE and should they update it. Seems like common sense you can use whatever version you want, but I'm just including the latest to stop peeps asking.

18 January 2010, 20:15	#6
Kyon Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOS Brigade Age: 32 Posts: 696	thanks the problems are solved ?

18 January 2010, 20:30	#10
Kyon Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOS Brigade Age: 32 Posts: 696	ok thanks for the info i updated it

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