Real Amiga vs emulation, 2013

Predseda · 11 November 2013, 17:38

This thread is the reincarnation of the old one, that was opened 2002. Poll results was 69 vs 31 percent for real Amiga. Now, after 11 years there is the new round.

Thorham · 11 November 2013, 18:20

For me, Amiga hardware is the only way to go. My hobby is Amiga, not emulation

Predseda · 11 November 2013, 19:25

The same for me, I used emulator only for grabbing some graphics for a website.

Mark36 · 11 November 2013, 22:19

I have real hardware but enjoy the practical side of emulation more.

rare_j · 11 November 2013, 22:19

I used to enjoy endlessy fiddling with old hardware, spending a fortune, patching the OS to insanity for tiny performance gains and getting nothing done.

Then I woke up to the expense and the folly, and switched to emulation. Now I spend more time actually playing games and using software.

Zak · 11 November 2013, 22:43

I had my problems with the joystick issue on emulation. I now get more comfortable with my x-box gamepad. WinUAE is a great development and I am not sure if I should get up an Amiga for every day gaming. Like wasting the hardware in every day usage. Would be interesting to me if others do, especially when it comes to more sophisticated Amiga hardware.

Thorham · 11 November 2013, 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by rare_j

I used to enjoy endlessy fiddling with old hardware, spending a fortune, patching the OS to insanity for tiny performance gains and getting nothing done.

You were doing it wrong

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zak

I am not sure if I should get up an Amiga for every day gaming. Like wasting the hardware in every day usage.

I have an Amiga to use it. If you're not going to use it, why have it at all?

Sandro · 11 November 2013, 23:06

winuae offer fantastic features and is much more compatible than my A1200
but the feeling of playing a game in real hardware by a real floppy disk is fantastic
ie not solved yet finding a descent 4:3 CRT monitor for my A1200,Im still looking for a microvitek 1738

Predseda · 11 November 2013, 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorham

If you're not going to use it, why have it at all?

Agree, on the other hand - I have 8 or 9 amigas various types and use one, rarely two. Why I have the rest? I dont know.

Neil79 · 11 November 2013, 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorham

You were doing it wrong

I have an Amiga to use it. If you're not going to use it, why have it at all?

Why?

Because it's a collectors item as well as a gaming system! People collect star wars figures, doesn't mean they are going to open the box. This system will be handed down to my kids and so on

Zak · 11 November 2013, 23:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorham

I have an Amiga to use it. If you're not going to use it, why have it at all?

I used them and they have all the used look. But then I feel like, what did I do there? What if I kill them on action? Especially when I see the prices called for a replacement item.

Retrofan · 11 November 2013, 23:45

I have 3 desktop A1200 miggys. I use more the ones with ACA's -three times a week-. The other has a BPPC/BVision/Subway/ACard/Idefix/Dvd/Delfina... AmiKit Real on Rtg runs wonderful there, but I hardly use it and I could sell it for 1500€, being poor. Why do I still keep it while really I spend 90% of the time with emulation?

Dunno, but I think I can put a lot of blame on this wonderful forum

And also... why do I have 3 C=64's when it has been more than a year I don't play any?... (I will, I will...).

Thorham · 11 November 2013, 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil79

Why?

Because it's a collectors item as well as a gaming system! People collect star wars figures, doesn't mean they are going to open the box. This system will be handed down to my kids and so on

Not everyone collects these machines. People also have them to use them. Just having something to have it seems pointless to me, but that's just the way I see it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zak

I used them and they have all the used look. But then I feel like, what did I do there? What if I kill them on action? Especially when I see the prices called for a replacement item.

Again, if you don't use it, why have it? To look at it? Not me, that's for sure. My Amiga is on almost every day.

Neil79 · 11 November 2013, 23:59

I don't see why you're being negative towards people who keep Amiga's and don't use them very much, if it's being looked after, who cares?

Thorham · 12 November 2013, 00:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil79

I don't see why you're being negative towards people who keep Amiga's and don't use them very much, if it's being looked after, who cares?

It's not my intention to be negative

People should do what ever they want with their own things, and I'm not going to tell them what they may and may not do with their own stuff. Just wondering why anyone would have an Amiga if they're not going to use it. Really, there's nothing behind it

Zak · 12 November 2013, 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorham

It's not my intention to be negative

People should do what ever they want with their own things, and I'm not going to tell them what they may and may not do with their own stuff. Just wondering why anyone would have an Amiga if they're not going to use it. Really, there's nothing behind it

I´m alright with your statements. And I am not sure myself.

Neil79 · 12 November 2013, 00:12

I do use it, I've got two and this one is an upgraded system. However I don't use it every day, I'm too busy with my own site and besides my 1TB is full of retro goodness. However I have nothing against people who collect retro systems and don't play them, as long as they look after them.

It's the ones that chuck classic systems in moldy boxes or thrown into the back of a dusty old loft

PortuguesePilot · 12 November 2013, 00:51

real Amiga all the way! you can't beat real hardware.

1MB A500 + CRT for pure nostalgia and older OCS games.
4MB+HD A1200 + CRT for the most fun and AGA exclusives.
>16MB >68040 A4000T + LCD for the ultimate hardcore Amiga experience (and WHDLoad).

the only good aspect of emulation (UAE, at least) is the ability to map one of the joystick buttons as UP. this makes most platform games more playable.

gimbal · 12 November 2013, 09:21

I wish I could say real hardware, but I simply don't even have the space for it

So emulation is still the way for me. Being able to play the games I love the most from time to time is enough for me.

amilo3438 · 12 November 2013, 12:13

Of course, a real hardware or emulation, the feeling is not the same ...
but, as we already know, a real hardware will not last forever ...
thus emulation will remain as the only possible way as a reminder on good old days.

Even today, emulated Amiga seems to be more practical ...
no bunch of cables/discs, no "brick on a wire", no need for a special monitor or an CRT ...

Also, one can experiment how it would behaving an A500 with an 68020 CPU or having 8MB of fast mem etc., and all that without investing into any of new hardware ...
just an cheap pc laptop (or tablet or even a smartphone) one can enjoy Amiga experience everywhere: in train, airplane, even in space

... isnt that fantastic?

So, today is not anymore important on what Amiga is running while its behaving like an Amiga, right?

View Poll Results: Which way do you use Amiga today?
I prefer REAL AMIGA	84	57.53%
I prefer EMULATION	32	21.92%
Both equally	30	20.55%
Voters: 146. You may not vote on this poll

11 November 2013, 17:38	#1
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,562	Real Amiga vs emulation, 2013 This thread is the reincarnation of the old one, that was opened 2002. Poll results was 69 vs 31 percent for real Amiga. Now, after 11 years there is the new round.

11 November 2013, 23:45	#12
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,195	I have 3 desktop A1200 miggys. I use more the ones with ACA's -three times a week-. The other has a BPPC/BVision/Subway/ACard/Idefix/Dvd/Delfina... AmiKit Real on Rtg runs wonderful there, but I hardly use it and I could sell it for 1500€, being poor. Why do I still keep it while really I spend 90% of the time with emulation? Dunno, but I think I can put a lot of blame on this wonderful forum And also... why do I have 3 C=64's when it has been more than a year I don't play any?... (I will, I will...). Last edited by Retrofan; 12 November 2013 at 00:03.

12 November 2013, 12:13	#20
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,533	Of course, a real hardware or emulation, the feeling is not the same ... but, as we already know, a real hardware will not last forever ... thus emulation will remain as the only possible way as a reminder on good old days. Even today, emulated Amiga seems to be more practical ... no bunch of cables/discs, no "brick on a wire", no need for a special monitor or an CRT ... Also, one can experiment how it would behaving an A500 with an 68020 CPU or having 8MB of fast mem etc., and all that without investing into any of new hardware ... just an cheap pc laptop (or tablet or even a smartphone) one can enjoy Amiga experience everywhere: in train, airplane, even in space ... isnt that fantastic? So, today is not anymore important on what Amiga is running while its behaving like an Amiga, right? Last edited by amilo3438; 12 November 2013 at 12:28.

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11 November 2013, 18:20	#2
Thorham Computer Nerd Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Rotterdam/Netherlands Age: 48 Posts: 3,831	For me, Amiga hardware is the only way to go. My hobby is Amiga, not emulation

11 November 2013, 19:25	#3
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,562	The same for me, I used emulator only for grabbing some graphics for a website.

11 November 2013, 22:19	#4
Mark36 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: uk Posts: 56	I have real hardware but enjoy the practical side of emulation more.

11 November 2013, 22:19	#5
rare_j Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,178	I used to enjoy endlessy fiddling with old hardware, spending a fortune, patching the OS to insanity for tiny performance gains and getting nothing done. Then I woke up to the expense and the folly, and switched to emulation. Now I spend more time actually playing games and using software.

11 November 2013, 22:43	#6
Zak Zap´em Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 609	I had my problems with the joystick issue on emulation. I now get more comfortable with my x-box gamepad. WinUAE is a great development and I am not sure if I should get up an Amiga for every day gaming. Like wasting the hardware in every day usage. Would be interesting to me if others do, especially when it comes to more sophisticated Amiga hardware.

11 November 2013, 23:06	#8
Sandro Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: spain Posts: 897	winuae offer fantastic features and is much more compatible than my A1200 but the feeling of playing a game in real hardware by a real floppy disk is fantastic ie not solved yet finding a descent 4:3 CRT monitor for my A1200,Im still looking for a microvitek 1738

11 November 2013, 23:59	#14
Neil79 Autistic 'n IRN! Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: - Posts: 2,984	I don't see why you're being negative towards people who keep Amiga's and don't use them very much, if it's being looked after, who cares?

12 November 2013, 00:12	#17
Neil79 Autistic 'n IRN! Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: - Posts: 2,984	I do use it, I've got two and this one is an upgraded system. However I don't use it every day, I'm too busy with my own site and besides my 1TB is full of retro goodness. However I have nothing against people who collect retro systems and don't play them, as long as they look after them. It's the ones that chuck classic systems in moldy boxes or thrown into the back of a dusty old loft

12 November 2013, 00:51	#18
PortuguesePilot Global Moderator Join Date: May 2013 Location: Setúbal, Portugal Posts: 614	real Amiga all the way! you can't beat real hardware. 1MB A500 + CRT for pure nostalgia and older OCS games. 4MB+HD A1200 + CRT for the most fun and AGA exclusives. >16MB >68040 A4000T + LCD for the ultimate hardcore Amiga experience (and WHDLoad). the only good aspect of emulation (UAE, at least) is the ability to map one of the joystick buttons as UP. this makes most platform games more playable.

12 November 2013, 09:21	#19
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 42 Posts: 6,962	I wish I could say real hardware, but I simply don't even have the space for it So emulation is still the way for me. Being able to play the games I love the most from time to time is enough for me.

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