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Old 29 May 2022, 15:56   #1
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Amiga Web browser, is there any usable today?

Hi!

I wonder if there is any Amiga Web browser today that you can use to browse the web?

I tried Aweb, but it doesn't seem to work.
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Old 29 May 2022, 16:02   #2
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Interested in this topic too. As I don‘t own a working Amiga anymore, I am currently using emulated setups on Windows (WinUAE) and Pi400 (Amiberry). For my emulated setups I am using Firefox/Chrome from the host OS via Amiga C programs winlaunch (Aminet) and host-run (Github account of Amiberry author midwan).

This won‘t help however on a real Amiga hardware of course.
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Old 29 May 2022, 16:03   #3
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For 68k, no. For MorphOS, yes but that's only Amiga-like.
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Old 29 May 2022, 16:23   #4
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I really have no clue about browsing the internet from an Amiga, but since IBrowse got an update a week ago (https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=110715) I wondered how bad it is to surf the web using it?
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Old 29 May 2022, 18:24   #5
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I really have no clue about browsing the internet from an Amiga, but since IBrowse got an update a week ago (https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=110715) I wondered how bad it is to surf the web using it?
IBrowse is usable for some basic Internet usage, like downloading from Aminet and other Amiga software depots. Also for reading old sites, but it is slow. Social media and streaming are almost impossible to use:

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Old 29 May 2022, 19:53   #6
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IBrowse is usable for some basic Internet usage, like downloading from Aminet and other Amiga software depots. Also for reading old sites, but it is slow. Social media and streaming are almost impossible to use:

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Thank you for the video It's about the level of functionality that I thought PPC browsing would have.
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Old 29 May 2022, 21:12   #7
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Thank you for the video It's about the level of functionality that I thought PPC browsing would have.
The new one for MorphOS is based on a recent version of WebKit so it's a lot better yet but with no shaders, WebGL is unlikely and JavaScript is still interpreted.
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Old 29 May 2022, 21:46   #8
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Thank you for the video It's about the level of functionality that I thought PPC browsing would have.
I made this video five years ago, that time Netsurf was almost useable with 68060 Amigas. Since then it has lost about a 500% of it's speed and it is not useable anymore.

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Some reason there is still a autobuilds of Netsurf for a 68k Amigas, even when it's disk cache has been brokein for a years and it downloads amigaworld.net about a 5 minits. In my video with old version it was rendered in 15 seconds.

That is a Reaction based full version.

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https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/amigaos3/
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Old 29 May 2022, 22:23   #9
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Thank you both for the info and videos
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Old 30 May 2022, 19:47   #10
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Aweb is included in the Amiga Explorer package, is it suppose to work on the web in that environment, or is it only included to browse local html files?
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Old 30 May 2022, 19:53   #11
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AWeb is quite old but the source code is now available if you want to scavenge something from it. Other than Rection being the GUI there's nothing that stands out about it otherwise.
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As an aside, it is not an Amiga browser that can't handle modern web sites, it is the Amiga itself. Computing power advanced in parallel with the internet in most cases, but the Amiga didn't advance after the early 90s.
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I tried Aweb, but it doesn't seem to work.
It works here. Can you be more specific than "doesn't seem to work"?
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Old 12 September 2022, 11:12   #14
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The best solution for browsing the net "On the Amiga" is Amiga VNCViewer or Remote Desktop client. Open a window to a browser on your PC (or even your phone).

If you have an RTG card and 100Mbit ethernet it is as usable as being local.

Save files to a shared Samba/NFS drive or use AmigaExplorer.
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it's a shame Opera mini or something like it never came out for Amiga's. The server translates web pages to clickable image links.

If any of the bigger Amiga firms set one up on a subscription model, it would probably do quite well.
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Old 12 September 2022, 12:39   #16
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If any of the bigger Amiga firms set one up on a subscription model, it would probably do quite well.
I find it extremely unlikely. You web-browse on the Amiga once. Just to see it is possible... Then you never do it again.
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I find it extremely unlikely. You web-browse on the Amiga once. Just to see it is possible... Then you never do it again.
Only becauseweb browsing is extremely slow. If I could browse eab and other Amiga sites at speed when I need software/answers, I would.

Used to use OM on my old Psion, it was very good, if you didn't ask to much of it, good small screen rendering too.

Moot point anyway, sources have never been released for how it worked.
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Obviously, I don't do a lot of browsing on my 1200...
But I use iBrowse for Aminet and sometimes for fun, I will poke at sites like http://68k.news/ which are designed for older systems... ;-)
I've also played with using the WebOne proxy to make some sites more accessible and had some level of success, but the fact that I rarely do that makes me think that level isn't too high... I still have WebOne installed, but haven't used it in a while...
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Old 12 September 2022, 21:42   #19
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The Apollo Computer site http://www.apollo-computer.com/index.php was also designed to be usable with Amiga browsers. This way you can download their Amiga software right on your Amiga.
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Old 12 September 2022, 21:51   #20
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NOT Saying it would be easy but easier then building a new browser.
You could make an app for displaying a specific web site like EAB. Download (using some Aminet app) the web page first then some app made in Amos or Blitz or whatever that simply Interprets and displays the web page. It would be lightweight would probably work on 68000. You could even do one for more advanced sites like BBC news etc. Big parts of the site would be pre done for something like EAB it would mainly be displaying text. Avatar etc could be pre converted/cached.
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