Wiz (Amiga AGA) - Page 21

AmigaDweeb · 22 November 2020, 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

RNC loader (at least some variants) supports two different setups: CD32 CD + CDFS (which is neither IDE nor SCSI) and A600/A1200 (A4000?) mainboard IDE + FFS (possibly only FFS\1?). They have nothing in common.

Thanks for explaining further as that now makes total sense to me

utri007 · 22 November 2020, 12:01

I made news items of this to amigaworld.net and amiga.org some days ago.

@Adrian I would suggest that you do that in future? Could you edit first post to have link to buy it? That way everyone would found it easy?

For a me, if game/app is not HD installable, I wount buy it.

AmigaDweeb · 22 November 2020, 12:16

Well I did state that it may not work much earlier up this thread and in the ReadMe docs and in fact it is the same as with all my previous games I wrote for Amiga except for 2 earliest ones at least.

I can understand if you don't wish to buy it of course no problem although it does work on real Amiga IDE HD / CF Card in many cases - just maybe not all of them. I didn't write the dosio loader of course so cannot vouch for it work with every IDE HD type and filesystem.

There is of course the free demo verison that people can try complete with full ReadMe docs before buying.

https://www.softwareamusements.com/D...ds/WizDemo.adf

I've updated the very first post in this thread as of just now.

Thanks

DamienD · 22 November 2020, 12:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

There is nothing wrong with emulation. RNC dos stuff only works with A600/A1200 (and perhaps A4000) IDE controller, drive must be FFS formatted. Probably has usual size limits.

-> useless for any "modern" Amiga configuration.

Toni, both of these .HDFs I used for testing are FFS:

a) ClassicWB Lite 3.1 [500MB].
b) Standard Workbench 3.1 [20MB].

Toni Wilen · 22 November 2020, 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Toni, both of these .HDFs I used for testing are FFS:

a) ClassicWB Lite 3.1 [500MB].
b) Standard Workbench 3.1 [20MB].

Not enough information. IDE emulation? HDtoolbox partitioned?

DamienD · 22 November 2020, 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Not enough information. IDE emulation? HDtoolbox partitioned?

No, just created the .HDFs and formatted in FFS; didn't use "HDtoolbox" to partition etc...

Predseda · 22 November 2020, 14:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

There is nothing wrong with emulation. RNC dos stuff only works with A600/A1200 (and perhaps A4000) IDE controller, drive must be FFS formatted. Probably has usual size limits.

Thats even more strange as my Amiga is Commodore A1200 with FFS IDE compact flash, nothing obscure inside.

I play Wiz from floppies, it is not so big problem, but still is interesting. I have never met any other Amiga game (except those that have floppy loading hardcoded) that would have similar problem with my harddrive. I hope someone will solve it in WHDLoad and discover (and tell to Adrian) what was wrong and how to do it different way for his next game.

I WILL BUY WIZ DIGITAL DOWNLOAD TO ANYONE WHO WILL MAKE A WHDLOAD INSTALLER FOR IT.

AmigaDweeb · 22 November 2020, 15:59

My real Amiga is also A1200 with CF Card and it works fine.

All my games are the same and use the same loader and they all work fine on real machine too when installed to HD also.

Emulation of HD seems to not work with the same dosio loader as said above. I'm sure it did once tho but until recently I've not been in the scene for 23 years LOL.

There must be 100's of games that used dosio. Tin Toy was my previous game that used the same loader on AGA as Wiz. That was WHDLoad'ified of course. Wiz should not be a problem because it is the same engine pretty much.

I can't do anything to dosio as it's block of assembled code that I call functions from. I didn't write it of course.

There is nothing more I can say or add that will ease your pain with the HD install.

Great sorta FREE copy protection tho hahahaaaa

Predseda · 22 November 2020, 16:31

Thats okay, somebody will solve it. Go on writing your games, I like them very much. Played Wiz yesterday from floppies and got killed in the last level. After I complete it I am going to give a try to Cyberpunks.

AmigaDweeb · 22 November 2020, 16:56

No worries. I enjoy making the games but I am no master coder so cannot solve everthing myself of course.

Enjoy!

AmyMor · 22 November 2020, 18:22

I just completed WIZ ... ADRIAN at least one graphic screen you could have put ahahahahaha !!!

PS: Attention you all to the worms and spiders, the worst and most bad enemies of the game (as well as the smallest)

Irek´72 · 22 November 2020, 18:49

I got my physical version of Wiz on November 13th. received (thanks Adrian for the fast shipping

)
Well, the game works fine from the floppy disk on my setup, unfortunately the HD solution doesn't work for me either. I tried to start it from the workbench, shell and even without startup sequence, unfortunately always with the same result.
I tried it with generic slave unfortunately the game crashes at the beginning with an error.

So I think a WHDLoad patch for this game would be a good idea.

I made a few icons for this game, unfortunately I can't do more than this in this case.

DamienD · 22 November 2020, 18:56

Hey Adrian,

When you use the inbuilt cheats, what does <F6> do?

To me it seems an NTSC / PAL toggle?

AmigaDweeb · 23 November 2020, 10:41

@All Yes sorry it is not possible with the RNC dosio loader to support all real Amiga HD types and file formats. It is only offered as an optional extra on the floppy games that may or may not work. I'm sure the game will be WHDLoad'ified in future as was the case with all my previous games I think.

@DamienD Yes F6 is PAL/NTSC development test switch which I tended to put in the cheats as far back as Doodlebug OCS/ECS 1992.

DamienD · 23 November 2020, 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian Cummings

@DamienD Yes F6 is PAL/NTSC development test switch which I tended to put in the cheats as far back as Doodlebug OCS/ECS 1992.

Thank you for confirmation Adrian.

I've written a text file of the cheats for HOL inclusion:

Code:

- Press [P] to pause the game, then hold the [LEFT MOUSE BUTTON] plus press [A],
  [R] and [C] at the same time. You are now invincible, have unlimited lives, 
  unlimted energy and unlimited spells. 

- Use the function keys to do the following: 

	F1__________________________________Act 1: The Path of Hope

	F2__________________________________Act 2: The Unholy Graveyard

	F3__________________________________Act 3: The Forgetful Forest

	F4__________________________________Act 4: The Bramble Caverns

	F5__________________________________Act 5: The Spooky Mansion

	F6__________________________________NTSC / PAL development test switch

AmigaDweeb · 23 November 2020, 11:09

^Spoiler alert on deck 5 captain :P

DamienD · 23 November 2020, 11:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian Cummings

^Spoiler alert on deck 5 captain :P

LOL, I haven't finished the game...

I took the information from the HOL screenshots, look at the last one

AmigaDweeb · 23 November 2020, 11:13

No worries I'm actually surprised the cheats took this long to surface as they've been doing the rounds for about 3 weeks now

manossg · 23 November 2020, 11:17

Any option for level skip without invincibility and infinite lives/energy/spells?

AmigaDweeb · 23 November 2020, 11:19

Somebody update this thread when Wiz has had the WHDLoad treatment perhaps. I'm off for a short break and then back into development of CyberPunks 2 on and off for next year.

Have fun and thanks again to all that bought Wiz and hopefully enjoyed it. Wiz only took 1400+ hours to create but what great hours spent on the Amiga once again they were

AMIGAAAAA!

22 November 2020, 12:16	#403
AmigaDweeb Mutation/AmigaDweeb Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sconnie Botland Age: 59 Posts: 810	Well I did state that it may not work much earlier up this thread and in the ReadMe docs and in fact it is the same as with all my previous games I wrote for Amiga except for 2 earliest ones at least. I can understand if you don't wish to buy it of course no problem although it does work on real Amiga IDE HD / CF Card in many cases - just maybe not all of them. I didn't write the dosio loader of course so cannot vouch for it work with every IDE HD type and filesystem. There is of course the free demo verison that people can try complete with full ReadMe docs before buying. https://www.softwareamusements.com/D...ds/WizDemo.adf I've updated the very first post in this thread as of just now. Thanks Last edited by AmigaDweeb; 22 November 2020 at 12:27.

22 November 2020, 15:59	#408
AmigaDweeb Mutation/AmigaDweeb Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sconnie Botland Age: 59 Posts: 810	My real Amiga is also A1200 with CF Card and it works fine. All my games are the same and use the same loader and they all work fine on real machine too when installed to HD also. Emulation of HD seems to not work with the same dosio loader as said above. I'm sure it did once tho but until recently I've not been in the scene for 23 years LOL. There must be 100's of games that used dosio. Tin Toy was my previous game that used the same loader on AGA as Wiz. That was WHDLoad'ified of course. Wiz should not be a problem because it is the same engine pretty much. I can't do anything to dosio as it's block of assembled code that I call functions from. I didn't write it of course. There is nothing more I can say or add that will ease your pain with the HD install. Great sorta FREE copy protection tho hahahaaaa Last edited by AmigaDweeb; 22 November 2020 at 16:10.

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22 November 2020, 12:01	#402
utri007 mä vaan Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,654	I made news items of this to amigaworld.net and amiga.org some days ago. @Adrian I would suggest that you do that in future? Could you edit first post to have link to buy it? That way everyone would found it easy? For a me, if game/app is not HD installable, I wount buy it.

22 November 2020, 16:31	#409
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,544	Thats okay, somebody will solve it. Go on writing your games, I like them very much. Played Wiz yesterday from floppies and got killed in the last level. After I complete it I am going to give a try to Cyberpunks.

22 November 2020, 16:56	#410
AmigaDweeb Mutation/AmigaDweeb Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sconnie Botland Age: 59 Posts: 810	No worries. I enjoy making the games but I am no master coder so cannot solve everthing myself of course. Enjoy!

22 November 2020, 18:22	#411
AmyMor Registered User Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Calvi Risorta Posts: 168	I just completed WIZ ... ADRIAN at least one graphic screen you could have put ahahahahaha !!! PS: Attention you all to the worms and spiders, the worst and most bad enemies of the game (as well as the smallest)

22 November 2020, 18:56	#413
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Hey Adrian, When you use the inbuilt cheats, what does <F6> do? To me it seems an NTSC / PAL toggle?

23 November 2020, 10:41	#414
AmigaDweeb Mutation/AmigaDweeb Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sconnie Botland Age: 59 Posts: 810	@All Yes sorry it is not possible with the RNC dosio loader to support all real Amiga HD types and file formats. It is only offered as an optional extra on the floppy games that may or may not work. I'm sure the game will be WHDLoad'ified in future as was the case with all my previous games I think. @DamienD Yes F6 is PAL/NTSC development test switch which I tended to put in the cheats as far back as Doodlebug OCS/ECS 1992.

23 November 2020, 11:09	#416
AmigaDweeb Mutation/AmigaDweeb Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sconnie Botland Age: 59 Posts: 810	^Spoiler alert on deck 5 captain :P

23 November 2020, 11:13	#418
AmigaDweeb Mutation/AmigaDweeb Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sconnie Botland Age: 59 Posts: 810	No worries I'm actually surprised the cheats took this long to surface as they've been doing the rounds for about 3 weeks now

23 November 2020, 11:17	#419
manossg Registered User Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Greece Posts: 992	Any option for level skip without invincibility and infinite lives/energy/spells?

23 November 2020, 11:19	#420
AmigaDweeb Mutation/AmigaDweeb Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sconnie Botland Age: 59 Posts: 810	Somebody update this thread when Wiz has had the WHDLoad treatment perhaps. I'm off for a short break and then back into development of CyberPunks 2 on and off for next year. Have fun and thanks again to all that bought Wiz and hopefully enjoyed it. Wiz only took 1400+ hours to create but what great hours spent on the Amiga once again they were AMIGAAAAA!

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