Do you know how this e-bay CD-Drive work?

fc.studio · 28 June 2008, 21:28

Well, do you know what connection and driver use this e-bay cd-drive to work on our Amiga? I don't know german, but the seller sold it as "defective" although his father used it for years on Amiga (confirmation required for german translation). Thefefore I believe the seller doesn't know how it works. Do you have any idea? I had something similar some time ago, but I had no working success with it.

http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWA:IT&ih=011

Retro-Nerd · 28 June 2008, 21:29

linky/article number?

Looks like a CD-Rom drive connectable via the floppy port. The seller wrote that it worked flawless on his fathers machine two years ago. But he couldn't test if it still works properly now. He sell it "untested".

Merlin · 28 June 2008, 21:38

Hi, I have EXACTLY the same unit that I obtained from crabfists on EAB. I have read the auction as I speak and read German, he is a bit vague and doesn't talk about which Amiga it worked with.

It's definitely SCSI and would need to be connected to an external connector on a big-box Amiga case so it's most likely to have been connected to a Zorro SCSI card in an A1500, 2000, 3000 or 4000.

Unless you had a SCSI card that allowed for an external connector to be added to an A1200, I can't see how it would work otherwise. Did anyone ever make a PCMCIA to 25 pin SCSI card for the Amiga 600 or 1200?

@ RN

Item number is 320264939191

Retro-Nerd · 28 June 2008, 21:48

He used it on A600/1200 & 4000 machines. Scroll down for this info, or check the article title decription.

Merlin · 28 June 2008, 21:55

@ RN

Yep you are right, it's in the item description (should've spotted that one LOL).

No mention of how he did it though.....you would need a Zorro SCSI for the big box Miggys or an accelerator with SCSI for the A1200 or a PCMCIA to SCSI for the A600.

fc.studio · 28 June 2008, 21:56

@RN: Sorry, for the missing link. I updated immediately my post but you were faster than me!

@Merlin:
I'm unhappy you are sure about a SCSI connection. I hoped it was a PARALLEL connection: it would be interesting to mount it (althoug slow) on every Amiga, A500 included.
Hi-soft manufactured Classic-Squirrel and Surfing-Squirrel device that allows to add SCSI via the PCMCIA port.

Retro-Nerd · 28 June 2008, 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlin

@ RN

Yep you are right, it's in the item description (should've spotted that one LOL).

No mention of how he did it though.....you would need a Zorro SCSI for the big box Miggys or an accelerator with SCSI for the A1200 or a PCMCIA to SCSI for the A600.

Are you sure? Couldn't it be an external drive with a parallel port connection? Looks like a looped floppy port on the backside. Check the cable he also sold with this drive.

fc.studio · 28 June 2008, 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Are you sure? Couldn't it be an external drive with a parallel port connection? Looks like a looped floppy port on the backside. Check the cable he also sold with this drive.

I would avoid the floppy port. This has 23 pin connection Vs. 25 pin like the PARALLEL port and like the drive in the picture (I computed them carefully).

Retro-Nerd · 28 June 2008, 22:16

Oops, of course your are right. So a parallel port drive with a loop for your periphery, right?

fc.studio · 28 June 2008, 22:32

I have no idea how it can work and sincerly I don't understand you about "loop". In my old similar CD-drive I'm almost sure that the 2 drive ports were labelled "TO PC" and "TO PRINTER".

Retro-Nerd · 28 June 2008, 22:40

I meant a looped through port, so you can can use the CD-rom AND a printer, scanner etc. at the same time on the parallel connection.

TheCorfiot · 28 June 2008, 22:48

Hello All,

Defnitely ScSi as it has an ID Number selector. currently set to 4.

Merlin is abs right.

TC

Merlin · 28 June 2008, 23:18

Thanks TC, I was wondering for a moment there....

Mine has the Centronics to 25-pin cable with it. It could be confused with a parallel printer cable as it look similar, however, the drive has a selector for the SCSI Logical Unit Number to be set. The bit I'm not sure about with mine is termination, it may need a terminator to be added to the other pass-through port once connected.

TheCorfiot · 29 June 2008, 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlin

Thanks TC, I was wondering for a moment there....

Mine has the Centronics to 25-pin cable with it. It could be confused with a parallel printer cable as it look similar, however, the drive has a selector for the SCSI Logical Unit Number to be set. The bit I'm not sure about with mine is termination, it may need a terminator to be added to the other pass-through port once connected.

Hi Merlin

More than likely it will need a passive terminator on the unused port, you should be able to treat either as Input / Output as the 50Pin Drive Connector just sits in the middle.

If you don't have a terminator to hand and are happy to keep the CDROM as the last device on your chain then simply go inside & set the Drive's jumper termination to ON.
If it's not marked, just google the model number.
Hope this Helps

TC

Merlin · 29 June 2008, 17:13

@ TC

I found the terminator at the bottom of the box, I didn't see it when I just took the main unit out to check the ports were the same as the auction one.

Yep, it's 1000% a SCSI device and the one I have has a CD-R in it, it's a Panasonic and it's most likely a 4x CD-R drive.

28 June 2008, 21:28	#1
fc.studio Cat lover Join Date: May 2004 Location: Italy Age: 54 Posts: 804	Do you know how this e-bay CD-Drive work? Well, do you know what connection and driver use this e-bay cd-drive to work on our Amiga? I don't know german, but the seller sold it as "defective" although his father used it for years on Amiga (confirmation required for german translation). Thefefore I believe the seller doesn't know how it works. Do you have any idea? I had something similar some time ago, but I had no working success with it. http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWA:IT&ih=011

28 June 2008, 21:29	#2
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,477	linky/article number? Looks like a CD-Rom drive connectable via the floppy port. The seller wrote that it worked flawless on his fathers machine two years ago. But he couldn't test if it still works properly now. He sell it "untested". Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 28 June 2008 at 21:37.

28 June 2008, 21:48	#4
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,477	He used it on A600/1200 & 4000 machines. Scroll down for this info, or check the article title decription. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 28 June 2008 at 21:54.

28 June 2008, 22:16	#9
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,477	Oops, of course your are right. So a parallel port drive with a loop for your periphery, right? Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 28 June 2008 at 22:22.

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28 June 2008, 21:38	#3
Merlin AmiBay MegaMod Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Age: 62 Posts: 1,163	Hi, I have EXACTLY the same unit that I obtained from crabfists on EAB. I have read the auction as I speak and read German, he is a bit vague and doesn't talk about which Amiga it worked with. It's definitely SCSI and would need to be connected to an external connector on a big-box Amiga case so it's most likely to have been connected to a Zorro SCSI card in an A1500, 2000, 3000 or 4000. Unless you had a SCSI card that allowed for an external connector to be added to an A1200, I can't see how it would work otherwise. Did anyone ever make a PCMCIA to 25 pin SCSI card for the Amiga 600 or 1200? @ RN Item number is 320264939191

28 June 2008, 21:55	#5
Merlin AmiBay MegaMod Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Age: 62 Posts: 1,163	@ RN Yep you are right, it's in the item description (should've spotted that one LOL). No mention of how he did it though.....you would need a Zorro SCSI for the big box Miggys or an accelerator with SCSI for the A1200 or a PCMCIA to SCSI for the A600.

28 June 2008, 21:56	#6
fc.studio Cat lover Join Date: May 2004 Location: Italy Age: 54 Posts: 804	@RN: Sorry, for the missing link. I updated immediately my post but you were faster than me! @Merlin: I'm unhappy you are sure about a SCSI connection. I hoped it was a PARALLEL connection: it would be interesting to mount it (althoug slow) on every Amiga, A500 included. Hi-soft manufactured Classic-Squirrel and Surfing-Squirrel device that allows to add SCSI via the PCMCIA port.

28 June 2008, 22:32	#10
fc.studio Cat lover Join Date: May 2004 Location: Italy Age: 54 Posts: 804	I have no idea how it can work and sincerly I don't understand you about "loop". In my old similar CD-drive I'm almost sure that the 2 drive ports were labelled "TO PC" and "TO PRINTER".

28 June 2008, 22:40	#11
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,477	I meant a looped through port, so you can can use the CD-rom AND a printer, scanner etc. at the same time on the parallel connection.

28 June 2008, 22:48	#12
TheCorfiot Amibay Senior Staff Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cardiff / Wales Posts: 1,302	Hello All, Defnitely ScSi as it has an ID Number selector. currently set to 4. Merlin is abs right. TC

28 June 2008, 23:18	#13
Merlin AmiBay MegaMod Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Age: 62 Posts: 1,163	Thanks TC, I was wondering for a moment there.... Mine has the Centronics to 25-pin cable with it. It could be confused with a parallel printer cable as it look similar, however, the drive has a selector for the SCSI Logical Unit Number to be set. The bit I'm not sure about with mine is termination, it may need a terminator to be added to the other pass-through port once connected.

29 June 2008, 17:13	#15
Merlin AmiBay MegaMod Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Age: 62 Posts: 1,163	@ TC I found the terminator at the bottom of the box, I didn't see it when I just took the main unit out to check the ports were the same as the auction one. Yep, it's 1000% a SCSI device and the one I have has a CD-R in it, it's a Panasonic and it's most likely a 4x CD-R drive.

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