Script to update tool types of slaves for quit key?

emuola · 14 March 2017, 18:33

I know I can set the whdload.prefs for global quit key, but the quitkey defined in the tool types of individual slaves override that.

If I'm not completely dreaming I swear I have seen a script that "patches" the tool types for a certain quitkey. But I cannot find it

Have I been too much on the beer side of things or what?

daxb · 14 March 2017, 22:27

Usualy there is no quitkey defined as tooltype. So the global quitkey is used. Do you really have quitkey set on all your installs?

Amiga1992 · 14 March 2017, 23:04

I think installs come with a quit key of their own programmed in there, or the icon you get with your install that you downloaded from somewhere MIGHT have a quitkey specified, but if you set a global quit key on whdload.prefs, it will override anything the slave says to use.

So you just have to edit your whdload.prefs file and choose the one you want to use.

Retro-Nerd · 14 March 2017, 23:27

You can set a global quit key in the whdload.prefs file for all games. But every individually set quitkey key in the game icons/shell command will overwrite the global key. But daxb is right. There are no local quitkeys set by default (WHDLoad installer/preinstalled packs) in the game icons. Thus there is no such script i'm afraid.

rare_j · 15 March 2017, 01:51

I could do a script to list icons of slaves where tooltype for quitkey is set.
Then you could go in and remove or amend the tooltype using iconedit or whatever.

Alternatively there might be a general perpose tool on aminet for batch amending tooltypes.

idrougge · 15 March 2017, 09:27

It should be extremely simple to do, but not worthwhile until the original poster confirms that he's actually tried to set the default quitkey.

Amiga1992 · 15 March 2017, 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

But every individually set quitkey key in the game icons/shell command will overwrite the global key.

Are you sure? Because I think it's the other way around.
Before I set a global quitkey, every game had its own quit key, and now they all take the global one.
(Also what would the point be of a global quitkey if a local one overrides it? That's not global)

daxb · 15 March 2017, 15:37

The local quitkey has the higher priority then the global one. Check the docs or just test it.

daxb · 15 March 2017, 16:14

Sorry, the WHDLoad doc isn`t clear about prefs/tooltype priority. In "S:whdload.prefs" it is noticed: "CLI-Arguments and ToolTypes will overwrite these !" but not in the doc itself. Maybe it is good to copy the sentence from whdload.prefs to the docs to avoid misunderstandings.

Amiga1992 · 15 March 2017, 16:35

Well thanks for clarifying that up, I thought it was the other way around. Seems a little bit silly to me to override a global with a local.

idrougge · 15 March 2017, 16:39

No, that makes total sense. Let's say you've defined HELP as your global quitkey. You install Lost Vikings, which uses HELP to cycle between the vikings. So you set quitkey to F10 for that particular slave.

Amiga1992 · 15 March 2017, 16:48

Yeah that does make sense. I just hate being unable to exit in some games because I don't know where the hell the exit key is at

I wish you could use an NMI interrupt for that, for those of us that have the chance to have such a button (like on the ACA620)!

Retro-Nerd · 15 March 2017, 16:55

Well, the blue splash always shows the quitkey. No matter if a coded, global or local one.

Amiga1992 · 15 March 2017, 17:08

I either have it to show for a really short time or not at all, so most times I don't see what the quitkey is.

Retro-Nerd · 15 March 2017, 17:25

Quote:

SplashDelay/K/N

This option specifies the time in 1/50ths seconds that WHDLoad shows the information window at startup. If SplashDelay/K/N is lower than ReadDelay/K/N it is ignored and the window is displayed using the time from ReadDelay/K/N. The window is displayed at least as long as Preload/S is processing.
If the option is set to 0 no window will be displayed at all. If the option is set to -1 a Start button is added to the window and it remains open until this button has been pressed. The splash window can also be closed by pressing Space, Return or Enter. If Esc is pressed WHDLoad will stop Preload/S and immediately quit. See also ConfigDelay/K/N.

Amiga1992 · 15 March 2017, 17:43

You don't understand, I do that on purpose, I have NO INTEREST on the splash page.
So my global config either skips it or puts a really low (5 or 10 value) SplashDelay.

Do I shoot myself on the foot when i don't know what key to use when I want to quit? Yes. But I hate nag screens even more, and that's why I paid for WHDLoad :P

Retro-Nerd · 15 March 2017, 17:48

Nah, the nag screen for an unregistered WHDLoad is 10-20 seconds. A splash screen delay for 2-3 seconds doesn't hurt plus you know what slave version you actually load. And the most important pro for a splash screen: You can enable/disable tooltypes on the fly via mouse. (I hate to edit the game icons)

Amiga1992 · 15 March 2017, 18:26

I hate that when there are tooltype checkboxes, the splash screen shows longer than expected.
Nag boxes are just freakishly annoying. Glad you can enjoy them. I don't.
And now that WHDLoad is free anyone can disable the splash anyway.
ANyway, went way off-topic here. Sorry.

14 March 2017, 18:33	#1
emuola Registered Whdload user Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Finland Age: 48 Posts: 532	Script to update tool types of slaves for quit key? I know I can set the whdload.prefs for global quit key, but the quitkey defined in the tool types of individual slaves override that. If I'm not completely dreaming I swear I have seen a script that "patches" the tool types for a certain quitkey. But I cannot find it Have I been too much on the beer side of things or what?

14 March 2017, 23:27	#4
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,442	You can set a global quit key in the whdload.prefs file for all games. But every individually set quitkey key in the game icons/shell command will overwrite the global key. But daxb is right. There are no local quitkeys set by default (WHDLoad installer/preinstalled packs) in the game icons. Thus there is no such script i'm afraid. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 14 March 2017 at 23:38.

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14 March 2017, 22:27	#2
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,304	Usualy there is no quitkey defined as tooltype. So the global quitkey is used. Do you really have quitkey set on all your installs?

14 March 2017, 23:04	#3
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I think installs come with a quit key of their own programmed in there, or the icon you get with your install that you downloaded from somewhere MIGHT have a quitkey specified, but if you set a global quit key on whdload.prefs, it will override anything the slave says to use. So you just have to edit your whdload.prefs file and choose the one you want to use.

15 March 2017, 01:51	#5
rare_j Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,176	I could do a script to list icons of slaves where tooltype for quitkey is set. Then you could go in and remove or amend the tooltype using iconedit or whatever. Alternatively there might be a general perpose tool on aminet for batch amending tooltypes.

15 March 2017, 09:27	#6
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,334	It should be extremely simple to do, but not worthwhile until the original poster confirms that he's actually tried to set the default quitkey.

15 March 2017, 15:37	#8
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,304	The local quitkey has the higher priority then the global one. Check the docs or just test it.

15 March 2017, 16:14	#9
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,304	Sorry, the WHDLoad doc isn`t clear about prefs/tooltype priority. In "S:whdload.prefs" it is noticed: "CLI-Arguments and ToolTypes will overwrite these !" but not in the doc itself. Maybe it is good to copy the sentence from whdload.prefs to the docs to avoid misunderstandings.

15 March 2017, 16:35	#10
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Well thanks for clarifying that up, I thought it was the other way around. Seems a little bit silly to me to override a global with a local.

15 March 2017, 16:39	#11
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,334	No, that makes total sense. Let's say you've defined HELP as your global quitkey. You install Lost Vikings, which uses HELP to cycle between the vikings. So you set quitkey to F10 for that particular slave.

15 March 2017, 16:48	#12
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Yeah that does make sense. I just hate being unable to exit in some games because I don't know where the hell the exit key is at I wish you could use an NMI interrupt for that, for those of us that have the chance to have such a button (like on the ACA620)!

15 March 2017, 16:55	#13
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,442	Well, the blue splash always shows the quitkey. No matter if a coded, global or local one.

15 March 2017, 17:08	#14
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I either have it to show for a really short time or not at all, so most times I don't see what the quitkey is.

15 March 2017, 17:43	#16
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	You don't understand, I do that on purpose, I have NO INTEREST on the splash page. So my global config either skips it or puts a really low (5 or 10 value) SplashDelay. Do I shoot myself on the foot when i don't know what key to use when I want to quit? Yes. But I hate nag screens even more, and that's why I paid for WHDLoad :P

15 March 2017, 17:48	#17
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,442	Nah, the nag screen for an unregistered WHDLoad is 10-20 seconds. A splash screen delay for 2-3 seconds doesn't hurt plus you know what slave version you actually load. And the most important pro for a splash screen: You can enable/disable tooltypes on the fly via mouse. (I hate to edit the game icons)

15 March 2017, 18:26	#18
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I hate that when there are tooltype checkboxes, the splash screen shows longer than expected. Nag boxes are just freakishly annoying. Glad you can enjoy them. I don't. And now that WHDLoad is free anyone can disable the splash anyway. ANyway, went way off-topic here. Sorry.

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