[AGA] GFX Bug :- James Pond 2 & Blobz & Bograts & Penguins

Octopus66 · 19 March 2018, 00:39

Hello all - I can see that in JP2 using A500 quick start config there is gfx issue on right hand side of screen for backgrounds. Do not think this happens with real hardware.

I cannot isolate the issue and I am fairly sure this is host config related - can anyone confirm?

Thanks!

Retro-Nerd · 19 March 2018, 00:48

Probably WinUAE config or disk image version (which crack or original?) related. Have you set the compatibility slider most left in the A500 quickstart options, before you ticked "Start in Quickstart mode"?

Octopus66 · 19 March 2018, 21:45

Hi Retro-Nerd, thanks for the reply. I tried again tonight incase it was just me being stupid, but no the issue remains.

I am running original IPF release 1352 and Quickstart 500 most compatible. Here is a savestate showing the glitching clearly when moving right.

Retro-Nerd · 19 March 2018, 22:29

Mmh, your save states shows a config for an A1200 machine, not an A500.

Octopus66 · 19 March 2018, 23:06

Hmmm, not sure how I have cocked this up.

So this effect seems to be related to non-A500 standard config. However, with the standard A500 config in place the scrolling is a bit of a nightmare in places. I guess this is how it is. Thanks.

Octopus66 · 19 March 2018, 23:24

Now things getting weird. Same issue on CD32 version with CD32 config. Savestate attached.
Is this just the game?

Retro-Nerd · 20 March 2018, 00:08

Seems like a bug. AGA/68020 emulation isn't perfect. Maybe it's fixable, maybe not.

hipoonios · 20 March 2018, 19:22

This is interesting. I've played Penguins and Blobz last week and encountered a bug that looks the same you have in James Pond 2. The A1200 quickstart configuration was used for both games (AGA games).

Coagulus · 20 March 2018, 20:54

I get something that looks like that in JetHunt AGA occasionally too. (Yes I'm still very slowly trying to finish it!) Can't recreate it. Will be sort of pleased if it's not my code causing it!

Zarnal · 08 October 2018, 20:41

Hello,

Do you have tested this games on real hardware ?

Toni Wilen · 08 October 2018, 21:05

Looks like I forgot to reply. Statefile is always required, preferably from floppy version.

Leandro Jardim · 08 October 2018, 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Octopus66

Hello all - I can see that in JP2 using A500 quick start config there is gfx issue on right hand side of screen for backgrounds. Do not think this happens with real hardware.

I cannot isolate the issue and I am fairly sure this is host config related - can anyone confirm?

Thanks!

I remember clearly that it happened on my A2000 and A500 when I was playing James Pond II in the 1990's decade. I even think WinUAE emulates this bug perfectly, in reality I was "astounded" when I saw that WinUAE tries to copy this Amiga chipset characteristic that intrigued me at that time too.

dreamkatcha · 08 October 2018, 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipoonios

This is interesting. I've played Penguins and Blobz last week and encountered a bug that looks the same you have in James Pond 2. The A1200 quickstart configuration was used for both games (AGA games).

LOL. That's the raccoon from the PD game Klawz.

Toni Wilen · 09 October 2018, 08:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leandro Jardim

I remember clearly that it happened on my A2000 and A500 when I was playing James Pond II in the 1990's decade. I even think WinUAE emulates this bug perfectly, in reality I was "astounded" when I saw that WinUAE tries to copy this Amiga chipset characteristic that intrigued me at that time too.

I meant AGA versions.

Zarnal · 09 October 2018, 13:09

Hello,

I noticed that the AGA Penguins game has a new glitch on the left corner of screen ingame (capture before filtering ticked).

Here is a savestate, the configuration used and a screenshot of issue.

Thank you.

DamienD · 09 October 2018, 13:11

Zarnal; no point creating a new thread for Penguins as it's already been mentioned in the James Pond 2 gfx bug thread

Merged, and thread title updated accordingly...

demolition · 09 October 2018, 13:19

I have often seen this glitch on real HW as well, using the OCS version of the game.

Zarnal · 09 October 2018, 14:10

@DamienD

Ok.

@Demolition

Game is only AGA

http://hol.abime.net/1024

demolition · 09 October 2018, 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarnal

@Demolition
Game is only AGA
http://hol.abime.net/1024

Sorry, I was talking about JP2 as mentioned in the first post.

Zarnal · 10 October 2018, 13:31

Bograts (sequel of Penguins) has the same issue.

19 March 2018, 00:39	#1
Octopus66 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: London Posts: 338	[AGA] GFX Bug :- James Pond 2 & Blobz & Bograts & Penguins Hello all - I can see that in JP2 using A500 quick start config there is gfx issue on right hand side of screen for backgrounds. Do not think this happens with real hardware. I cannot isolate the issue and I am fairly sure this is host config related - can anyone confirm? Thanks! Attached Thumbnails

20 March 2018, 19:22	#8
hipoonios Amiga Hardcore Gamer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Age: 46 Posts: 1,207	This is interesting. I've played Penguins and Blobz last week and encountered a bug that looks the same you have in James Pond 2. The A1200 quickstart configuration was used for both games (AGA games). Attached Thumbnails

09 October 2018, 13:09	#15
Zarnal Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: France Posts: 505	Penguins new graphical glitch. Hello, I noticed that the AGA Penguins game has a new glitch on the left corner of screen ingame (capture before filtering ticked). Here is a savestate, the configuration used and a screenshot of issue. Thank you. Last edited by Zarnal; 26 April 2021 at 19:18.

10 October 2018, 13:31	#20
Zarnal Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: France Posts: 505	Bograts (sequel of Penguins) has the same issue. Last edited by Zarnal; 26 April 2021 at 19:18.

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19 March 2018, 00:48	#2
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	Probably WinUAE config or disk image version (which crack or original?) related. Have you set the compatibility slider most left in the A500 quickstart options, before you ticked "Start in Quickstart mode"?

19 March 2018, 22:29	#4
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	Mmh, your save states shows a config for an A1200 machine, not an A500.

19 March 2018, 23:06	#5
Octopus66 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: London Posts: 338	Hmmm, not sure how I have cocked this up. So this effect seems to be related to non-A500 standard config. However, with the standard A500 config in place the scrolling is a bit of a nightmare in places. I guess this is how it is. Thanks.

20 March 2018, 00:08	#7
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	Seems like a bug. AGA/68020 emulation isn't perfect. Maybe it's fixable, maybe not.

20 March 2018, 20:54	#9
Coagulus Gets there in the end... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wales Posts: 865	I get something that looks like that in JetHunt AGA occasionally too. (Yes I'm still very slowly trying to finish it!) Can't recreate it. Will be sort of pleased if it's not my code causing it!

08 October 2018, 20:41	#10
Zarnal Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: France Posts: 505	Hello, Do you have tested this games on real hardware ?

08 October 2018, 21:05	#11
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,534	Looks like I forgot to reply. Statefile is always required, preferably from floppy version.

09 October 2018, 13:11	#16
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Zarnal; no point creating a new thread for Penguins as it's already been mentioned in the James Pond 2 gfx bug thread Merged, and thread title updated accordingly...

09 October 2018, 13:19	#17
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 43 Posts: 4,190	I have often seen this glitch on real HW as well, using the OCS version of the game.

09 October 2018, 14:10	#18
Zarnal Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: France Posts: 505	@DamienD Ok. @Demolition Game is only AGA http://hol.abime.net/1024

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