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Old 08 January 2022, 19:34   #3881
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I think that we talk at cross purposes now ... Sorry, I should better have quoted your first statement before to make clear what I'm referring to.
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This glitch reappeared at some point... and NoDelayedImage2 no longer works...
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...postcount=2437
I can't reproduce this with P96 v2 and my settings.
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I have no dot images for the hidden icons here with P96 v2.x and WB 45.194 or 45.132, but you said that you have P96 v3.x.
I will check that with your P96 settings soon, which look quite different to my config. Still couldn't reproduce the dot images yet. Btw, you cannot get these dot images with the latest TC020 build #559 on WB v44+ and P96 as shown on your old screenshot, because you would get gray or striped rectangles instead, dots only without P96. So, what kind of other glitches did you have or is it an old icon.library?

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The second point was clear already: the missing checkered transparency under the mouse pointer on TrueColor screens. Ok.

But I just noticed another old bug (since #408) in the color inversion of selected old icons with only one image, the blue gets lost.

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Old 13 January 2022, 20:19   #3882
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Another small update for TC020 and FastWB to 51.4.560:
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 In order to reduce the amount of data that has to be
 transferred between the CPU and the gfx-card over the
 slow Zorro bus, the rectangles of TrueColor images are
 made as small as possible by removing the outer parts,
 which are nearly 100 % transparent, when alpha is 0-2. 
 This was already implemented for ColorIcons on RTG.
 Maybe the icon dragging and scrolling are becoming a
 little bit smoother on slow systems with gfx-cards?

 On OS 3.2+ it's recommended to use TC020. The FastWB
 version can avoid some useless refreshes on WB v44-45.

 "Tricky Drag°n" is still WIP. All Feedback is welcome.
@Michael
I've got two emails from you, but all my replies are blocked or rejected again. Maybe this update can improve the dragging on P96 a bit, especially on Zorro II systems, but you should also check your P96 settings. You also have a PM as reply to your first email.

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Old 15 January 2022, 01:43   #3883
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Sorry, I just noticed in some tests that I made a stupid last minute bug in #560 when I finally removed some instructions from the code, which has the effect that the optimization doesn't work anymore as it did before. Now, I will check the code carefully before I update it again.
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Old 19 January 2022, 12:41   #3884
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I've been using 560 without any noticeable issues (not that it helps you any now )

RTG screen with P96 3.2.2 on AmigaOS 3.2.1
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Old 19 January 2022, 14:37   #3885
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Thanks for confirming that "Tricky Drag°n" works on P96 3.2.2 and OS 3.2.1. The "issue" of 560 was that accidentally nothing has really changed for user, the new optimization was ignored by a mistake in the code. But it's already working again, even a bit better now than before. I just don't want to release it, because there are still some other things on my ToDo list, that are waiting for a solution, like the missing transparency for the dragged icon under the mouse pointer, that hexaae would like to get back.
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Old 20 January 2022, 17:01   #3886
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Another small update for TC020, FastWB and HalfBright to 51.4.561:
Code:
 The icon under the mouse pointer becomes transparent
 again now in "Tricky Drag°n" as usually done on WB.

 In order to reduce the amount of data that has to be
 transferred between the CPU and the gfx-card over the
 slow Zorro bus, the rectangles of TrueColor images are
 made as small as possible by removing the outer parts,
 which are nearly 100 % transparent, when alpha is 0-2. 
 This was already implemented for ColorIcons on RTG.

 The rectangles of the first images (unselected icons)
 can be reduced by 20-40%, but the 2. images only < 5%,
 because the glow effect covers most of the free space.

 On OS 3.2+ it's recommended to use TC020. The FastWB
 version can avoid some useless refreshes on WB v44-45.

 "Tricky Drag°n" is still WIP. All Feedback is welcome.
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Old 21 January 2022, 21:22   #3887
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Another small update for TC020, FastWB and HalfBright to 51.4.561:
Code:
 The icon under the mouse pointer becomes transparent
 again now in "Tricky Drag°n" as usually done on WB.

 In order to reduce the amount of data that has to be
 transferred between the CPU and the gfx-card over the
 slow Zorro bus, the rectangles of TrueColor images are
 made as small as possible by removing the outer parts,
 which are nearly 100 % transparent, when alpha is 0-2. 
 This was already implemented for ColorIcons on RTG.

 The rectangles of the first images (unselected icons)
 can be reduced by 20-40%, but the 2. images only < 5%,
 because the glow effect covers most of the free space.

 On OS 3.2+ it's recommended to use TC020. The FastWB
 version can avoid some useless refreshes on WB v44-45.

 "Tricky Drag°n" is still WIP. All Feedback is welcome.
Installed this morning and the machine was used on and off all day, nothing untoward to report sir, it behaved perfectly
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Old 22 January 2022, 00:26   #3888
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Another small update for TC020, FastWB and HalfBright to 51.4.561:
Code:
 The icon under the mouse pointer becomes transparent
 again now in "Tricky Drag°n" as usually done on WB.

 In order to reduce the amount of data that has to be
 transferred between the CPU and the gfx-card over the
 slow Zorro bus, the rectangles of TrueColor images are
 made as small as possible by removing the outer parts,
 which are nearly 100 % transparent, when alpha is 0-2. 
 This was already implemented for ColorIcons on RTG.

 The rectangles of the first images (unselected icons)
 can be reduced by 20-40%, but the 2. images only < 5%,
 because the glow effect covers most of the free space.

 On OS 3.2+ it's recommended to use TC020. The FastWB
 version can avoid some useless refreshes on WB v44-45.

 "Tricky Drag°n" is still WIP. All Feedback is welcome.

Thank you for the transparent effect re-implementation
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Old 24 January 2022, 14:07   #3889
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News: There is a new icon plugin Iconic 1.0 by Airsoft Softwair available for Hollywood 9, which supports several icon formats:
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- AmigaOS 1.x style icons
- AmigaOS 2.x/3.x style icons
- AmigaOS 3.5/3.9 icons (aka GlowIcons)
- AmigaOS 4.x icons
- macOS icons (*.icns format)
- MagicWB icons
- MorphOS/PowerIcons icons (PNG), with one image
- NewIcons
- Windows icons (*.ico format)
https://forum.amiga.org/index.php?PH....msg854364#new
https://www.hollywood-mal.com/index.html

http://aminet.net/package/dev/hwood/HWP_Iconic

PS. This is just good news, Iconic is an independent project, not related to icon.library, but probably useful for icon designers.

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Old 24 January 2022, 16:14   #3890
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News: There is a new icon plugin Iconic 1.0 by Airsoft Softwair available for Hollywood 9, which supports several icon formats:

https://forum.amiga.org/index.php?PH....msg854364#new
https://www.hollywood-mal.com/index.html

http://aminet.net/package/dev/hwood/HWP_Iconic

PS. This is just good news, Iconic is an independent project, not related to icon.library, but probably useful for icon designers.
I'm still using PPaint (with pio_icon plugin from Aminet) and IconEdit (OS3.9)
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