The Grail by Microdeal - Page 5

dalek · 06 January 2018, 01:57

unfortunately after looking hi and low I can't find my original

I did ask my brother who remembers the game and said he had the same frustration at not being able to finish it.

I wonder if it's something simple like the RTC date being used for the RNG - maybe the game was playtested on an unexpanded A500 without clock and nowadays we all have RTCs (including in WinUAE) and there is an error using the value from the system time. I'm keen to see if this is the case so will see if I can find out if I get the time soon.

BarryB · 06 January 2018, 02:11

I played it on a A500 without a RTC and in a WinUAE HD setup that does emulate an RTC and both times the cripple never appeared. As I've mentioned before the retail releases do not have sound but the Talespin version does, so something is amiss if even your bro can remember having problems finishing it!!

dlfrsilver · 12 January 2018, 17:53

Ok folks

Here's the result : the original i bought is unmodified, i did an IPF out of it

Next, time to test

If it uses a protection, it's GAP based.

EDIT : well playing from the IPF doesn't change a thing. It's buggy from the start.

BarryB · 12 January 2018, 18:25

Which version is yours?

dlfrsilver · 12 January 2018, 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

Which version is yours?

Original retail release.

BarryB · 12 January 2018, 21:57

Jewel case? I honestly can't think this was ever protected but it would be useful if someone checked if it actually called any protection routines!!

dlfrsilver · 12 January 2018, 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

Jewel case? I honestly can't think this was ever protected but it would be useful if someone checked if it actually called any protection routines!!

Yes would be good

I'll post my CTraw in the zone

BarryB · 12 January 2018, 22:47

Thanks for taking the trouble to get another copy though Denis, even if all copies of the game seem to be bugged.

mk1 · 13 January 2018, 13:00

Then there's this release https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-Grail...oAAOSwV4BZ2AJh

I seriously doubt there's any difference in these releases and wouldn't suggest anyone to pay that amount of money for this game

Btw, what is this "Software Direct" line of titles? There's nothing on HOL about it.

BarryB · 13 January 2018, 13:08

I wondering where the heck I put my copy now to compare?

Perhaps it should be renamed The Fail?

mk1 · 13 January 2018, 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

I wondering where the heck I put my copy now to compare?

Perhaps it should be renamed The Fail?

Haha indeed! Pretty amazing QC from the team/people who made it.

dalek · 13 January 2018, 13:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by mk1

Then there's this release https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-Grail...oAAOSwV4BZ2AJh

I seriously doubt there's any difference in these releases and wouldn't suggest anyone to pay that amount of money for this game

Btw, what is this "Software Direct" line of titles? There's nothing on HOL about it.

Ahh! that's the same packaging/version I had! Anecdotally it has the same "can't be finished" problem. I am NOT spending money on that game ever again lol!

BarryB · 13 January 2018, 16:13

Found the ebay listing where I bought my copy and it too is the Software Direct release in a Jewel Case! But, I only paid £4.50 for it so not a huge loss

12 January 2018, 17:53	#83
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	Ok folks Here's the result : the original i bought is unmodified, i did an IPF out of it Next, time to test If it uses a protection, it's GAP based. EDIT : well playing from the IPF doesn't change a thing. It's buggy from the start. Last edited by dlfrsilver; 12 January 2018 at 18:15.

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06 January 2018, 01:57	#81
dalek Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: NSW/Australia Posts: 462	unfortunately after looking hi and low I can't find my original I did ask my brother who remembers the game and said he had the same frustration at not being able to finish it. I wonder if it's something simple like the RTC date being used for the RNG - maybe the game was playtested on an unexpanded A500 without clock and nowadays we all have RTCs (including in WinUAE) and there is an error using the value from the system time. I'm keen to see if this is the case so will see if I can find out if I get the time soon.

06 January 2018, 02:11	#82
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	I played it on a A500 without a RTC and in a WinUAE HD setup that does emulate an RTC and both times the cripple never appeared. As I've mentioned before the retail releases do not have sound but the Talespin version does, so something is amiss if even your bro can remember having problems finishing it!!

12 January 2018, 18:25	#84
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Which version is yours?

12 January 2018, 21:57	#86
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Jewel case? I honestly can't think this was ever protected but it would be useful if someone checked if it actually called any protection routines!!

12 January 2018, 22:47	#88
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Thanks for taking the trouble to get another copy though Denis, even if all copies of the game seem to be bugged.

13 January 2018, 13:00	#89
mk1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Helsinki / Finland Posts: 403	Then there's this release https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-Grail...oAAOSwV4BZ2AJh I seriously doubt there's any difference in these releases and wouldn't suggest anyone to pay that amount of money for this game Btw, what is this "Software Direct" line of titles? There's nothing on HOL about it.

13 January 2018, 13:08	#90
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	I wondering where the heck I put my copy now to compare? Perhaps it should be renamed The Fail?

13 January 2018, 16:13	#93
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Found the ebay listing where I bought my copy and it too is the Software Direct release in a Jewel Case! But, I only paid £4.50 for it so not a huge loss

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