Lords of the Rising Sun

runamuck2 · 18 July 2004, 03:42

Could someone please help me to find the Atari ST version of Lords of the Rising Sun. I really like the look of this game but I keep getting killed by the ninja right at the start of the game. You might think well why do I want the Atari version.

Well I've found that most of the time The Amiga version of a game is better than the Atari ST not due to the Amiga's superior hardware but that the ST version was often released first and the Amiga version was changed to correct any gameplay problems with the ST version.

But with Cinemaware it was reversed, the Amiga version came out first with the ST version appearing later or never. For instance Sinbad was imho better on the ST than the Amiga even if the graphics were less impressive.

Belgarath · 18 July 2004, 13:53

I don't think there is an ST version.

runamuck2 · 18 July 2004, 14:42

I was afraid of that. Oh well I'll just have to keep practising against the ninja

dirkies · 23 July 2004, 18:19

that's because you use the cracked version! I had the same problem until I used the original disks, then there was no ninja and you could play it in its full glory!

stainy · 23 July 2004, 21:20

Thats a bit cheeky isn`t t ? a nasty nija on the cracked ver! hehe

7-Zark-7 · 25 July 2004, 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by stainy

Thats a bit cheeky isn`t t ? a nasty nija on the cracked ver! hehe

Sounds like they learnt some lessons from the copy protection techniques of C64 Karateka-a lesson not to use pirate copies if ever there was one!

runamuck2 · 29 July 2004, 15:17

That's more than cheeky that's just taking the p***

I didn't even know that they could do that. All I have to do now is find the uncracked original.

Hillsy_ · 08 August 2004, 20:37

I remember some of the AtariST games were better than the Amiga ones. I always thought Xenon 2, Dungeon Master, Chaos Strikes Back were better on the AtariST. Whilst the Turrican Series, Z-Out & Shadow of the Beast were better on the Amiga.

I always remember playing Kick Off on the AtariST...I felt so jealous that the Amiga version had the goal nets.

Such fond memories...

Hillsy_

PS: Happy gaming to you all!!

fiath · 08 August 2004, 22:45

Well, I can't see how Xenon 2 could have been better on the ST

but games like Dungeon Master and Chaos Strikes Back were just ports to the Amiga (like so many games pre-90's). So I guess it is certainly possible something was "lost" from these games in the translation. Dungeon Master was still amazing on the Amiga, but I have never played the ST version.

Hillsy_ · 08 August 2004, 23:16

I liked the music better on the ST version of Xenon 2. I thought the sound was very well done on the ST version. As for Dungeon Master, it ran on a 512K machine on the AtariST, unlike the Amiga version. The Amiga version needed 1MB for the added sound effects. I prefer the AtariST version because I believe it was harder. Yes, I played them both. Oids was also a great game for the AtariST which unfortunately never came to the Amiga.

- Hillsy.

27 August 2004, 14:17

Does anybody have Amiga version of this game? Or can tell me how to get it? my mail is popovic@aaen.edu.yu
10x

07 May 2011, 17:32

I need the version without the ninja attack at start, playing yoritomo for amiga winuae, best as adf file.

I know how the version should work, cause i bought it 20 years ago but reel 2 was broken before i could finish the game at master rank.

PM me and thy.

kipper2k · 07 May 2011, 17:38

Here is the link for Cinemaware games

http://www.cinemaware.com/vault.asp?vault=games

(I cant create account for some reason)

dirkies · 08 May 2011, 19:01

I believe the disk images on CInemware are in fact the cracked version!
But the lockpicked 100% deprotected version re-cracked in 2010 (or 2009?) by a boardmember was posted here a while ago, no nasty ninja there!

08 May 2011, 19:26

Yeah i know, thx, i registered 2 Years ago there and was very disappointed. They uploaded the quartex version to the site.

Its a damn losstech, if even the developer havent the image. Reel 2 used to screw up cause of the r/w for the savegame.
I dont really belive data on disk can survive 20 years.

There was a blackstar version for PC, but it was never released as far as i know.
With this game its like who can climb the mount everest 1st. Best copy protection for its time and still a nasty one to crews today.
There are bout 7 versions out there, every team failed to get it done.

There are roumors around, that 1 man got it done. I belive no one else could get it done again.

Retro-Nerd · 08 May 2011, 19:37

Check the Zone. I've uploaded Demoniacs 100% crack.

dlfrsilver · 08 May 2011, 19:37

What do you want exactly ? An ADF cracked ? the Reel 2 disk in ADF ?

demoniac · 09 May 2011, 02:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Check the Zone. I've uploaded Demoniacs 100% crack.

Thanks for posting in The Zone for me as I didn't have them handy. Satake wants my version.

10 May 2011, 00:19

Yes its working. Ah what a feeling after 20 years of waiting. Thank you very much.

I just started, and after some crashes i got the right configuration. A600 with rom 3.1.
Yoritomo suck... quite well at start. You are forced to play all action sequenses with him. Sure ninja have hit a couple of times to kill yoritomo. So if u guys want, ill post some screens here, with special acivements. And it will sure take a while to get master rank.

Shogun 2 with its new patch have to wait.

demoniac · 10 May 2011, 23:13

Like I wrote in PM, you probably want to run it w/ KS1.2 and 512KB slow/512KB fast for compatibility issue as the game was released in that time frame.

18 July 2004, 03:42	#1
runamuck2 Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: London Posts: 76	Lords of the Rising Sun Could someone please help me to find the Atari ST version of Lords of the Rising Sun. I really like the look of this game but I keep getting killed by the ninja right at the start of the game. You might think well why do I want the Atari version. Well I've found that most of the time The Amiga version of a game is better than the Atari ST not due to the Amiga's superior hardware but that the ST version was often released first and the Amiga version was changed to correct any gameplay problems with the ST version. But with Cinemaware it was reversed, the Amiga version came out first with the ST version appearing later or never. For instance Sinbad was imho better on the ST than the Amiga even if the graphics were less impressive.

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18 July 2004, 13:53	#2
Belgarath HOL Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,529	I don't think there is an ST version.

18 July 2004, 14:42	#3
runamuck2 Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: London Posts: 76	I was afraid of that. Oh well I'll just have to keep practising against the ninja

23 July 2004, 18:19	#4
dirkies Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Belgium Age: 51 Posts: 1,297	that's because you use the cracked version! I had the same problem until I used the original disks, then there was no ninja and you could play it in its full glory!

23 July 2004, 21:20	#5
stainy Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Concord, NC, USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,714	Thats a bit cheeky isn`t t ? a nasty nija on the cracked ver! hehe

29 July 2004, 15:17	#7
runamuck2 Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: London Posts: 76	That's more than cheeky that's just taking the p*** I didn't even know that they could do that. All I have to do now is find the uncracked original.

08 August 2004, 20:37	#8
Hillsy_ Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 51 Posts: 260	I remember some of the AtariST games were better than the Amiga ones. I always thought Xenon 2, Dungeon Master, Chaos Strikes Back were better on the AtariST. Whilst the Turrican Series, Z-Out & Shadow of the Beast were better on the Amiga. I always remember playing Kick Off on the AtariST...I felt so jealous that the Amiga version had the goal nets. Such fond memories... Hillsy_ PS: Happy gaming to you all!!

08 August 2004, 22:45	#9
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	Well, I can't see how Xenon 2 could have been better on the ST but games like Dungeon Master and Chaos Strikes Back were just ports to the Amiga (like so many games pre-90's). So I guess it is certainly possible something was "lost" from these games in the translation. Dungeon Master was still amazing on the Amiga, but I have never played the ST version.

08 August 2004, 23:16	#10
Hillsy_ Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 51 Posts: 260	I liked the music better on the ST version of Xenon 2. I thought the sound was very well done on the ST version. As for Dungeon Master, it ran on a 512K machine on the AtariST, unlike the Amiga version. The Amiga version needed 1MB for the added sound effects. I prefer the AtariST version because I believe it was harder. Yes, I played them both. Oids was also a great game for the AtariST which unfortunately never came to the Amiga. - Hillsy.

27 August 2004, 14:17	#11
IzNoGooD Posts: n/a	Does anybody have Amiga version of this game? Or can tell me how to get it? my mail is popovic@aaen.edu.yu 10x

07 May 2011, 17:32	#12
Satake Posts: n/a	I need the version without the ninja attack at start, playing yoritomo for amiga winuae, best as adf file. I know how the version should work, cause i bought it 20 years ago but reel 2 was broken before i could finish the game at master rank. PM me and thy.

07 May 2011, 17:38	#13
kipper2k Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Canada Posts: 4,323	Here is the link for Cinemaware games http://www.cinemaware.com/vault.asp?vault=games (I cant create account for some reason)

08 May 2011, 19:01	#14
dirkies Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Belgium Age: 51 Posts: 1,297	I believe the disk images on CInemware are in fact the cracked version! But the lockpicked 100% deprotected version re-cracked in 2010 (or 2009?) by a boardmember was posted here a while ago, no nasty ninja there!

08 May 2011, 19:26	#15
Satake Posts: n/a	Yeah i know, thx, i registered 2 Years ago there and was very disappointed. They uploaded the quartex version to the site. Its a damn losstech, if even the developer havent the image. Reel 2 used to screw up cause of the r/w for the savegame. I dont really belive data on disk can survive 20 years. There was a blackstar version for PC, but it was never released as far as i know. With this game its like who can climb the mount everest 1st. Best copy protection for its time and still a nasty one to crews today. There are bout 7 versions out there, every team failed to get it done. There are roumors around, that 1 man got it done. I belive no one else could get it done again.

08 May 2011, 19:37	#16
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,471	Check the Zone. I've uploaded Demoniacs 100% crack.

08 May 2011, 19:37	#17
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 47 Posts: 10,515	What do you want exactly ? An ADF cracked ? the Reel 2 disk in ADF ?

10 May 2011, 00:19	#19
Satake Posts: n/a	Yes its working. Ah what a feeling after 20 years of waiting. Thank you very much. I just started, and after some crashes i got the right configuration. A600 with rom 3.1. Yoritomo suck... quite well at start. You are forced to play all action sequenses with him. Sure ninja have hit a couple of times to kill yoritomo. So if u guys want, ill post some screens here, with special acivements. And it will sure take a while to get master rank. Shogun 2 with its new patch have to wait.

10 May 2011, 23:13	#20
demoniac Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: - Posts: 1,698	Like I wrote in PM, you probably want to run it w/ KS1.2 and 512KB slow/512KB fast for compatibility issue as the game was released in that time frame.

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