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If it was actually easier, or if the connector was actually common and purchasable in any electronics store (it isn't) I'd recommend that. But without a connector, it's actually much harder. It does not help that the BERR signal is on the lower face of the board edge. Ultimately, only users who do not have any bootable floppies do need this method, and they need to open it anyway to figure out board version and check for possible varta barrel batteries. Most users have Workbench, and can just use amigaXfer with loadwb -debug method. Last edited by admiral; 03 April 2021 at 04:34. Reason: loadwb -debug |
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03 April 2021, 16:10 | #22 |
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I have re-issued 1.0.1 release zip.
Win7 apparently has trouble unpacking zips packed by advcomp. Aminet takes time until they manually handle uploads. Github already has the new version. |
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amigaXfer 1.1.0 now available.
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Full list of changes on the links below. https://github.com/rvalles/pyamigadebug/releases/ http://aminet.net/package/comm/misc/amigaXfer_win32 Last edited by admiral; 19 May 2021 at 09:57. Reason: aminet updated |
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Nice! I gave it a brief whirl between my Linux laptop and A600 + ACA620EC and the 512k transfer speed works quite well.
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26 May 2021, 13:34 | #25 |
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Tested in my A2000 with kick 3.1 works great
Very cool how you were able to make the crash bootstrap work with other kick versions! |
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Yay. Nice to hear user success stories! Thank you very much for the testing.
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The limiting factor that makes it not work everywhere is that the PC serial port only does 115200, so typically the faster speed is only reachable with a usb-serial and a short cable. |
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amigaXfer 1.1.1 now available.
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https://github.com/rvalles/pyamigadebug/releases http://aminet.net/package/comm/misc/amigaXfer_win32 Last edited by admiral; 08 July 2021 at 03:17. Reason: format |
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Cool stuff! Keep on keeping on. :-)
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08 November 2021, 13:09 | #30 |
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Just messaging here as this thread is more appropriate than my own where I heard about this, but if I use that bootable (HelloAmi) does it achieve the necessary debug menu for optimised transfer the same way?
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There's a caveat; if dos.library is initialized you get filetransfers, otherwise (e.g. via debug bootblock) you don't, but that's about it in practice. AmigaXfer will still be very useful in reading/writing floppies (e.g. workbench) for you. HelloAmi's loadwb (which doubles as icon.library) enables the debug menu, like loadwb -debug does. But beware HelloAmi doesn't have the RAM: device, so it's less than ideal for file transfer. It should still be possible to transfer files to an already formatted floppy (including helloami's itself). I mention it because it's a legal download that will get you to workbench and won't require purchasing or otherwise obtaining AmigaOS. Last edited by admiral; 08 November 2021 at 18:30. Reason: doslib |
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So cool! In the Hombre package I've included every worthwhile way of transferring files from the PC I could find back then, but this is on another level.
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08 November 2021, 19:10 | #33 |
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Update possible maybe? I've used Hombre a lot back from when I started using serial again for transfers before PCMCIA days lol.
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Perhaps I'd also use AmigaXfer's optdebug bootblock. Yes, I also used hombre back in the day. Thanks for your work! Last edited by admiral; 08 November 2021 at 19:23. |
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09 November 2021, 11:20 | #35 |
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Just a stupid question:
To be able to access WB in debug mode, I need to add the -debug parameter to the loadWB command in startup-sequence of my Workbench disk? Does it then change anything else in Workbench? Or can I just always leave it in debug mode, without any other restrictions? And when I load Workbench in debug mode, then I don't need to do any hardware modifications on the board, correct? Never used serial transfer method, so this is new ground to me.... |
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You can leave it if you like, it just adds the menu entries. On the other hand, once you have file transfer going, you can copy the debug exe to your amiga and start that when needed.
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Thanks Jope, that sound great!
So whenever I sell an Amiga 500 with some disks to someone, I can include debug.exe on the Workbench disk, and he can start transferring his most loved ADFs to the disks. Finally, with this speed, the null modem cable solution becomes the best and most simple one available! This is really a BIG step for the 'how can I put ADFs on my Amiga disks' problem, which everyone who returns to the Amiga from the old days will sooner or later run into.. Many thanks to admiral!! |
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The hardware trick, for people without workbench, also doesn't involve modifications. It's just a one-off brief connection, then you'd get a workbench written and never need to do it again. |
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I've tried nearly 1 hour to get this working with no success on A500, A600 or A1200!
I'm using HelloAmi to access debug. If I select CrashEntry it will do the blink but not reboot so I have to do this manually. If I select nothing and try to connect it will either do a reboot to guru (then back to reading floppy) or just sit there idle. I'm using USB to serial and tried 2 different types with same outcome. I'm using Windows 7 64bit if that has any bearing to the failure? |
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Is having a serial cable even doing anything at all, vs no cable? You should be getting a lot of debug output from AmigaXfer's console window if there's any sort of communication at all. I suspect there isn't (and you're stuck with the "waiting for amiga to enter debugger" text). If my guess is wrong and there actually is visible communication past that text, the first thing you should try is lowering the link bitrate setting in AmigaXfer's SetupDialog to a very safe (and slow) 9600 bps. You can easily test whether the serial cabling works at all irrespective of AmigaXfer, by ensuring (on your workbench's preferences) serial baudrate is to 9600, 8bit, 1 stop, no parity, no flow control. I believe these are the defaults except XON/XOFF, which shouldn't affect this test anyway. Then you'd do, in an AmigaShell CLI: Code:
mount aux: newcli aux: I suspect your cabling is straight. RX<>RX and TX<>TX won't allow for communication, and you won't get a shell prompt with this test, nor will any serial port communication software (e.g. the stuff in Hombre, NComm, etc.) work. On top of that, some 25<>9 pin adapters do null-modem crossing... if you do it twice (if your cable also does it) you end up straight. If you don't have the right adapters, but have some male to female duponts, you can just connect GND<>GND, RX<>TX, TX<>RX with the duponts, between your cable's connector and the Amiga's serial port connector. It's the ugliest thing ever, but I've done it before and it works. Once your wiring is good, amigaXfer will work flawlessly. Last edited by admiral; 10 November 2021 at 05:28. Reason: putty/etc |
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