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Old 01 December 2009, 18:11   #1
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USB Mouse For Amiga

Hi All,

I am bit confused regarding USB mice for the Amiga.

Is it true that the a USB mouse hooked up to a Deneb or Subway may not work with certain programs/games? Is anyone here using a USB mouse in this fashion?

Then it would appear that the Cocolino or the Micromys V3 may be the way to go. What mice are recommended with these adapters?

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Old 01 December 2009, 18:15   #2
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That is true. Most games dont support USB mice.

We bundle a compatible mouse with our Cocolino as a product option:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...products_id=88
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Old 01 December 2009, 18:54   #3
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I've got the Cocolino, it's great, compatible with everything.
(every program/game/mouse I've tried with it)
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Old 02 December 2009, 05:32   #4
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A USB mouse works on an A600 with a Subway running the Anaiis USB stack in the game "Hillsea Lido", which isn't exactly a system-friendly game, it can't even be quit back to Workbench. WHDLoad crashes the USB stack, so I can't try any other classic games, but every system-friendly game I've tried works fine with the mouse on the Subway with Anaiis on the A600 and Poseidon on the A1200.

Still, if all you're after is a replacement mouse and prefer to use a USB one without an additional USB-to-PS/2 adapter, one of those USB-Amiga mouse adapters from http://www.retro-data.com is the way to go. It'll work in anything except an A600 (without a 9-pin extension cord, anyway).
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Old 02 December 2009, 06:43   #5
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Hi,

This Retro-Data mouse looks interesting as another alternative.

This doesn't appear to be an 9pin-USB adapter but rather a completely new mouse. Am I missing something here?

Also, why will this not work on an A600 easily?

Regards....ed
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Old 02 December 2009, 06:45   #6
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What's the difference between Micromys and Cocolino?
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Old 02 December 2009, 07:35   #7
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What's the difference between Micromys and Cocolino?
Micromys supports also C64 and Atari ST. There is also support for wheeled mouses.
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Old 02 December 2009, 11:20   #8
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i got a AmiZorro. works with everything ive tried
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Hi,

This Retro-Data mouse looks interesting as another alternative.

This doesn't appear to be an 9pin-USB adapter but rather a completely new mouse. Am I missing something here?

Also, why will this not work on an A600 easily?

Regards....ed
Keep looking on that site, there is both a PC mouse converted for Amiga use, as well as an Amiga-USB mouse adapter. The reason they don't fit in an A600 is because the plug has screw holes on the side and can't poke far enough into the A600's tight little mouse port, which is recessed inside the side of the case.


http://www.retro-data.com/adaptadorusb.asp
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Old 03 December 2009, 16:07   #10
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Hi All,

Wow. That Retro-Data USB-9Pin adapter looks very good and relatively compact. Thanks for the link!

Does anyone know if this adapter comes with drivers for wheel operation (or can I simply use the drivers from Cocolino)?

Finally, does this thing work with ALL games?

Regards...ed
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Hi all!

I have got Cocolino and Retro-data's mouse adapters, my impresions are:

- Cocolino supports wheel, but RetroData don't.
- RetroData works very smooth, but Cocolino don't (see attached picture)
- Cocolino worked in all Amiga 1200 I tested, but RetroData don't worked in one of four Amiga 1200.

Attached picture is a test on my Amiga 1200 using Amiga mouse, cocolino with PS/2 mouse, and RetroData with USB mouse trying to draw a circle.

Note: I tested two different Cocolio with USB mouse (using adapter) with the same results.

Thanks

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Old 04 December 2009, 21:37   #12
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Hi,

Thanks for sharing your great research regarding these mouse adapters.

Based on this, I will probably be getting a Cocolino. Yes, its a bit shaky (but not really a deal killer since I don't do any detailed graphics work on the Amiga) but the wheel function more than makes up for it!

Plus, it seems that the user base of Cocolinos is larger than the other adapters so future driver support should not fade anytime soon...?

Regards....ed
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Hi all!

I have got Cocolino and Retro-data's mouse adapters, my impresions are:

- Cocolino supports wheel, but RetroData don't.
- RetroData works very smooth, but Cocolino don't (see attached picture)
- Cocolino worked in all Amiga 1200 I tested, but RetroData don't worked in one of four Amiga 1200.

Attached picture is a test on my Amiga 1200 using Amiga mouse, cocolino with PS/2 mouse, and RetroData with USB mouse trying to draw a circle.

Note: I tested two different Cocolio with USB mouse (using adapter) with the same results.

Thanks

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which brand mouse you used for your RetroData testing . ?
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Hi All,

Wow. That Retro-Data USB-9Pin adapter looks very good and relatively compact. Thanks for the link!

Does anyone know if this adapter comes with drivers for wheel operation (or can I simply use the drivers from Cocolino)?

Finally, does this thing work with ALL games?

Regards...ed
I use an old mr. mysza with a generic green ps/2 to usb adapter connected to a Fellowes wireless optical mouse (And a battery recharger/ spare 'AAA' stash :-D ), which works fine. The mousewheel drivers that came with Amiga Forever some years back work well with it, and the 3rd and 4th buttons work as well, I believe. It works with USB as well, but because WHDload doesn't like the USB stack, I can't use the mouse that way. But anything that plugs into the Amiga's mouse port and works w/o additional drivers should work. The only things missing on my mouse with legacy games are the mouse wheel and the spare buttons. (Not that these games use those anyway). As far as HID devices are concerned, I only use them for a playstation to usb controller adapter, and a playstation 2 DVD remote. (Makes a great task launcher!)
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this was on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/USB-mouse-adap...item2eab3480a5
might be some more about
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this was on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/USB-mouse-adap...item2eab3480a5
might be some more about
Thanks for the link, cosmicfrog!

That's a really interesting nice piece of hardware. I might end up buying one.
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if you do get one don`t forget to report back here with what its like to use and T`ings
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which brand mouse you used for your RetroData testing . ?
I used three different PC mouses with RetroData adaptor:

- Creative USB
- Lenovo USB
- Logitec PS2 (using a PS2 to USB adaptor)

I tested RetroData's adaptor in four Amiga 1200, and it don't worked in one of them
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this was on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/USB-mouse-adap...item2eab3480a5
might be some more about
I purchased this piece and working Fine with all mouse i used , but the wheel is not working . its good hardware .
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