Rainbow Islands - Difference in versions???

DamienD · 13 March 2016, 16:31

Heya guys,

Question about the Rainbow Islands releases...

SPS has the following listed:

Code:

1311   Rainbow Islands      1      OCS   EU   Budget: Hit Squad
0026   Rainbow Islands      1      OCS   EU   Retail: alt1   Ocean Software Ltd
0012   Rainbow Islands      1      OCS   EU   Retail   Ocean Software Ltd

All of these have the "Taito / Graftgold / Ocean" initial title screen:

In TOSEC there are these files available:

Code:

Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr QTX].adf
Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr QTX][b doscopy].adf
Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr QTX][t +1 Vortex 42].adf
Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr QTX][t +2 Slipstream].adf
Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr SCX][t +11 Flashtro][b doscopy].adf
Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr SCX][t +3 SCX].adf
Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr SCX][t +3 SCX][b doscopy].adf
Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr SCX][t +6 Flashtro][b doscopy].adf
Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr SCX][t +7 Flashtro][b doscopy].adf
Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr SCX][t +8 Flashtro][b doscopy].adf
Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr TIC - Freestyle][h Bandidos][t +1 TIC - Freestyle].adf
Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr TIC - Freestyle][t +1 TIC - Freestyle].adf
Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr TIC - Freestyle][t +1 TIC - Freestyle][b doscopy].adf
Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr VF].adf
Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr VF][b diskdoctor].adf
Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr VF][b dump].adf
Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr VF][h ACU - Bandidos].adf
Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr VF][h TFS].adf

Only the "Quartex" cracks have the "Taito / Graftgold / Ocean" initial title screen...

All of the others above show "Rainbow Project" while loading:

Just wondering if there is any difference in the versions???

Arnie · 13 March 2016, 16:52

Interesting. It looks like the one I tried (and failed miserably) to make a copy of the original from Dastardly.

@dlfrsilver
I wonder if the stream files could be used to repair the original dump?

15 March 2016, 00:25

Quote:

Only the "Quartex" cracks have the "Taito / Graftgold / Ocean" initial title screen...

That's why we love this one

.

DamienD · 15 March 2016, 10:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vollldo

That's why we love this one

.

Agreed but I haven't had the chance to fully test this crack as yet... Does anyone know if this works all the way through without the graphics issues reported on EAB?

I know there's lot of bad cracks floating about, see these threads:
... http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=79076
... http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=21957

GameBase Amiga uses "Rainbow Islands (1990)(Ocean)[cr SCX][t +11 Flashtro][b doscopy].adf". This version has the "Rainbow Project" and not the nice "Taito / Graftgold / Ocean" initial title screen.

DamienD · 15 March 2016, 11:11

Also; original question still remains.

Besides the loading screens i.e. "Taito / Graftgold / Ocean" vs. "Rainbow Project"; are there any other differences between versions?

dlfrsilver · 15 March 2016, 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

Interesting. It looks like the one I tried (and failed miserably) to make a copy of the original from Dastardly.

@dlfrsilver
I wonder if the stream files could be used to repair the original dump?

the dastardly version was a demo version. So it would need the exact same demo disk......

Superman · 15 March 2016, 13:26

I'm not sure on differences. I have the original that I got as a freebie in the Flight Of Fantasy Pack many years ago. I just tried it on My A1200 via relokick and it has the proper loading screen as can be seen in my photos :

jbenam · 15 March 2016, 13:51

Maybe the ones with the "Project Rainbow" were almost-final versions that leaked to the crackers?

It wouldn't be the first time that in the race to be first the crackers end up releasing some preview version claiming it to be final

DamienD · 15 March 2016, 14:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superman

I'm not sure on differences. I have the original that I got as a freebie in the Flight Of Fantasy Pack many years ago. I just tried it on My A1200 via relokick and it has the proper loading screen as can be seen in my photos :

Cheers for the images Superman

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbenam

Maybe the ones with the "Project Rainbow" were almost-final versions that leaked to the crackers?

It wouldn't be the first time that in the race to be first the crackers end up releasing some preview version claiming it to be final

Yeah quite possibly

All the SPS releases show the "Taito / Graftgold / Ocean" initial title screen. Not one of them has the "Project Rainbow" so do wonder about this version...

dlfrsilver · 15 March 2016, 20:09

yes, the versions with rainbow project were betas....

DamienD · 15 March 2016, 20:11

Oh, another thing to note that I'm sure everyone already knows, is that the "Rainbow Project" version has protection in the form of manual code input (which all cracks have bypassed by pressing Enter):

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

yes, the versions with rainbow project were betas....

Thanks Denis; then we should really be using the "Quartex" cracks.

Has anyone completed this all the way through without the graphics issues reported on EAB? Would be cool if Flashtro could add their trainer to this version

Shatterhand · 15 March 2016, 20:38

My version back at the time had the Rainbow Project screen, but it didn't show any manual code input screen. I don't remember who cracked it, but to be quite honest, I don't remember ever showing any crakctro (Though I can really be wrong on this, it has been too many years

)

jbenam · 16 March 2016, 10:59

My copy doesn't (I still have it... somewhere) have manual protection either, but definitely had the "Project Rainbow" screen. Can't remember any cracktro... Might try dumping it and comparing it to TOSEC to see if it's a known image or not.

Jackoland · 16 March 2016, 12:02

I still have my version from back in the day, no cracktro, and the project rainbow screen. Love this game!

Shatterhand · 16 March 2016, 17:07

I am pretty sure I still have the disk back at my mother's place, but have no idea of its state. If anyone interested in taking a look at this, I can grab it and send it somewhere

DanScott · 16 March 2016, 22:15

I was with Gremlin when he cracked it.

It was cracked from a shop bought original copy

and it had the "Rainbow Project" logo on loading

dlfrsilver · 17 March 2016, 00:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanScott

I was with Gremlin when he cracked it.

It was cracked from a shop bought original copy

and it had the "Rainbow Project" logo on loading

Ok, so this means it's the missing link then ! We have the 3 other versions, but not this one.......

jbenam · 17 March 2016, 11:00

Isn't there a way to contact the original coders? That's the only way we'll know for sure what went on with the different title screens

18 March 2016, 00:47

I'm practically sure (but i wouldn't bet my balls on this) that i did read by the past somewhere that the beta "rainbow project" version has major differences with the final one in the last islands. I don't remember exactly what, maybe about the game difficulty or enemy positions. The quartex one seems to work flawlessly until the end on my A500, this is the one to use. Of course the "rainbow project" one (the one i had and finished at the time) is also an interesting disk to have in a collection !

mnemo · 23 March 2016, 17:11

Just checked my original I bought back then on an A3000 and it also only displays the Taito / Graftgold screen. The Rainbow Project pic was probably a placeholder during development.

MnemoTroN

23 March 2016, 17:11	#20
mnemo MTN/SPT Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Germany Age: 53 Posts: 60	Just checked my original I bought back then on an A3000 and it also only displays the Taito / Graftgold screen. The Rainbow Project pic was probably a placeholder during development. MnemoTroN Last edited by MnemoTroN; 23 March 2016 at 17:19.

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13 March 2016, 16:52	#2
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Interesting. It looks like the one I tried (and failed miserably) to make a copy of the original from Dastardly. @dlfrsilver I wonder if the stream files could be used to repair the original dump?

15 March 2016, 11:11	#5
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Also; original question still remains. Besides the loading screens i.e. "Taito / Graftgold / Ocean" vs. "Rainbow Project"; are there any other differences between versions?

15 March 2016, 13:26	#7
Superman Super Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Wakefield Age: 48 Posts: 1,334	I'm not sure on differences. I have the original that I got as a freebie in the Flight Of Fantasy Pack many years ago. I just tried it on My A1200 via relokick and it has the proper loading screen as can be seen in my photos :

15 March 2016, 13:51	#8
jbenam Italian Amiga Zealot Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Italy Age: 36 Posts: 1,910	Maybe the ones with the "Project Rainbow" were almost-final versions that leaked to the crackers? It wouldn't be the first time that in the race to be first the crackers end up releasing some preview version claiming it to be final

15 March 2016, 20:09	#10
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	yes, the versions with rainbow project were betas....

15 March 2016, 20:38	#12
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	My version back at the time had the Rainbow Project screen, but it didn't show any manual code input screen. I don't remember who cracked it, but to be quite honest, I don't remember ever showing any crakctro (Though I can really be wrong on this, it has been too many years )

16 March 2016, 10:59	#13
jbenam Italian Amiga Zealot Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Italy Age: 36 Posts: 1,910	My copy doesn't (I still have it... somewhere) have manual protection either, but definitely had the "Project Rainbow" screen. Can't remember any cracktro... Might try dumping it and comparing it to TOSEC to see if it's a known image or not.

16 March 2016, 12:02	#14
Jackoland Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Leeds Posts: 174	I still have my version from back in the day, no cracktro, and the project rainbow screen. Love this game!

16 March 2016, 17:07	#15
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	I am pretty sure I still have the disk back at my mother's place, but have no idea of its state. If anyone interested in taking a look at this, I can grab it and send it somewhere

16 March 2016, 22:15	#16
DanScott Lemon. / Core Design Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Tier 5 Posts: 1,209	I was with Gremlin when he cracked it. It was cracked from a shop bought original copy and it had the "Rainbow Project" logo on loading

17 March 2016, 11:00	#18
jbenam Italian Amiga Zealot Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Italy Age: 36 Posts: 1,910	Isn't there a way to contact the original coders? That's the only way we'll know for sure what went on with the different title screens

18 March 2016, 00:47	#19
Vollldo Posts: n/a	I'm practically sure (but i wouldn't bet my balls on this) that i did read by the past somewhere that the beta "rainbow project" version has major differences with the final one in the last islands. I don't remember exactly what, maybe about the game difficulty or enemy positions. The quartex one seems to work flawlessly until the end on my A500, this is the one to use. Of course the "rainbow project" one (the one i had and finished at the time) is also an interesting disk to have in a collection !

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