Quake 3 on Classic

[trixster]

I've also just tried alpha6rc2 for the first time - it works for me.

[jack-3d]

Originally Posted by trixster

I've just made a quick Alpha5 400/1 timedemo, q3dm6, no gun model, plenty of of shooting, no bots:

640x480 bilinear geo high, textures 2nd highest, lightmap = 24.5fps
640x480 trilinear geo high, textures 2nd highest, lightmap = 23.5fps
640x480 bilinear geo high, textures 2nd highest, vertex = 34.7
640x480 bilinear geo high, textures 2nd highest, lightmap, dyn lights off = 24.7

Seems like there really isn't a big hit with trilinear!

Using Paula 8bit DMA, sound works but the game often stutters and fps are noticeably lower. I can't get a timedemo score from using sound as the game crashes on trying to return to the main menu.

So your tests are without sound, right? Because I then see not much difference between sonnet 500 and 400 MHz.

BTW congrats for finally getting Deneb ;o)

[trixster]

one for my new A3000 as well now

Yes 400/1 without sound but I can only guess that the demo you recorded might have been more complex than mine - mine was a run around q3dm6 without sound and without bots. With bots I guess the 500 will be noticeably faster than the 400.

Maybe post the your demo file up here and we can compare speeds?

[jack-3d]

Here is my demo: amigademo.dm_68

[BULI]

Originally Posted by trixster

I need to try a video with bots now.

My proposition for benchmark is demo four (four.dm_68).
There are bots, and this demo is as standard in Quake3.

Console:
Timedemo 1
Demo four

[Cowcat]

I've also just tried alpha6rc2 for the first time - it works for me.

wtf...

Tell !

[Cowcat]

For some sound tips put volumebackmusic to "0" on the slide and "s_doppler" off (if it's no disabled).

Disabling sky also helps: "r_fastsky".....If I remember.

[trixster]

Originally Posted by Cowcat

wtf...

Tell !

Im not sure sir! I removed the old config from baseq3 and just ran the rc2 quake3 executable, no other changes. It worked 4 times consecutively so it seems ok to me. My Internet stack is not started though, I'll try it when connected to the net this afternoon to see if that affects anything.

@buli good suggestion!

[jack-3d]

Originally Posted by BULI

My proposition for benchmark is demo four (four.dm_68).
There are bots, and this demo is as standard in Quake3.

Console:
Timedemo 1
Demo four

Sure, I just had my Demos folder empty, so I made one. But if that one "four" is build-in, then I will search original Q3 CD and start using the official demo. I just wanted some short demo with shooting and bots. Anyway I will check.

[BULI]

@trixster

Good point, vertex mode is much faster than Lightmap!

In demo four it is about 5FPS faster!

And in vertex mode and r_textureMode "Gl_LINEAR" (bether quality in Q3) is no difrent speed (not more than 1FPS)to r_textureMode "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST" :-)

[trixster]

Alpha6rc2 is still ok here with network started.

A few timedemos from demo four, no sound:

1) Trilinear default settings (640x480, high geo, 2nd high texture, lightmap) - 18.4
2) Trilinear no dynamic lights - 18.9
3) Trilinear no dynamic lights, no marks, no gun, brasstime 500 - 21.5
4) Bilinear no dynamic lights, no marks, no gun, brasstime 500 - 21.7

[BULI]

Alpha6 is slower?!

By the way.
Vertex mode is faster but map like Q3DM6 looking much better in LightMap :-)

[trixster]

Demo four is much more taxing than my own demo I recorded, hence slower fps

[BULI]

Originally Posted by trixster

Demo four is much more taxing than my own demo I recorded, hence slower fps

In demo four, I have (Sonnet 400Mhz/1MB):
-Lightmap: 20 FPS
-Vertex: 25 FPS

[trixster]

L2 cache on my sonnet only running at 160mhz (setcmemdiv 4), it crashes when setcmemdiv is not defined or set at 3 or 0. That could be the difference

[grelbfarlk]

Originally Posted by trixster

L2 cache on my sonnet only running at 160mhz (setcmemdiv 4), it crashes when setcmemdiv is not defined or set at 3 or 0. That could be the difference

You know a couple 512KB 250MHz cache chips cost less than $20....

[trixster]

Sadly I don't have the skill to fit some! I am content with it as it is

[BULI]

Originally Posted by trixster

L2 cache on my sonnet only running at 160mhz (setcmemdiv 4), it crashes when setcmemdiv is not defined or set at 3 or 0. That could be the difference

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Originally Posted by trixster

L2 cache on my sonnet only running at 160mhz (setcmemdiv 4), it crashes when setcmemdiv is not defined or set at 3 or 0. That could be the difference

My Sonnet 400Mhz/1MB has set cmemdiv 2 (266Mhz), but my benchmarks was with medium geometry option not high.

QuakeAlpha6ver2 still don't work for me (even I delete config file), maybe because i don't have tcp/ip stack now.

[Sinphaltimus]

Some of the comments here appear to be about running this on a classic Amiga (non-ppc) but the first post states "Some stuff to try for those with bigger ppc cpus + 256mg ram:"

Does this run on a classic amiga? I understand it will need acceleration. Does it need 256MB ram if it will run on classic accelerated amiga?

I guess my real question is (if it does run on classic Amigas) has anyone tried it on an A500 with a Vampire? (only 128MB ram).

I would try but this "developer topic" is a bit over my head as far as even attempting to get it to work or just "trying".

Feel free to slap me in the back of the head.

[trixster]

Originally Posted by BULI

My Sonnet 400Mhz/1MB has set cmemdiv 2 (266Mhz), but my benchmarks was with medium geometry option not high

With medium geometry I get 20fps as well, so I guess L2 cache speed makes little difference.