WTH is software failure 8000 0025 07402210 ???

keropi · 01 August 2006, 08:04

I cold start the 4000 with the 030 cpu card, and I get software failure 8000 0025 07402210 , press left mouse button to continue.
I do that and works ok after that.... what is wrong?

Chain · 01 August 2006, 08:54

that was EC030 warning

get a better card

...maybe

keropi · 01 August 2006, 10:02

something to do with the cd/hd combination... removing the hd removes the prob too...
bah, lame ide port

Chain · 01 August 2006, 10:08

can it be bad filesystem-kickstart combination?

keropi · 01 August 2006, 10:15

dunno gonna check some more

keropi · 01 August 2006, 12:30

without any IDE devices connected, it boots fine on the kick3.1 "insert disk" screen...

AMIGAZ · 01 August 2006, 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by keropi

without any IDE devices connected, it boots fine on the kick3.1 "insert disk" screen...

Had that problem with my CSPPC when I had the wrong type of PFS3 filesystem on my boot partition

alexh · 01 August 2006, 13:02

Some "030" versions of software require the NOMMU tooltype. Perhaps that is it? Sometimes you have to use the 020 version.

keropi · 01 August 2006, 14:08

but EVEN if I put inside a BLANK HD, I still get that lame error...
also I have only installed 3.9 + BB1+2 , nothing more...

alexh · 01 August 2006, 16:17

If you had the wrong kickstart 3.1 chip for your hardware, or perhaps a homebrew one you may have files in it which are not EC030 compatible?

You showed me photo's of a KS40.70 which is really just for an A4000T.

http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/wb_31.html

Quote:

There was 40.70 for A3000 and A4000 when VillageTronic initially released OS 3.1. But those versions had problems with some accelerator boards and with some hard drives, thus the step back to 40.68 was taken

Beg / Borrow / Steal another set?

keropi · 01 August 2006, 21:02

@Alexh: I have an eFlash 1MB on the 4000 , can it help?

alexh · 02 August 2006, 00:45

I do not understand how the eflash works. I have always been curious to know. If anyone can explain it to me I would appreciate it.

If you can boot an Amiga with no physical kickstart chips in the sockets, but an eFlash in a zorro slot, then YES it probably will help.

But I feel that the Zorro bootstrap routine lives in the real kickstart ROM.

How much it needs before the eflash takes over and where the incompatibility is in the Kickstart ROM I dont know.

Might be worth contacting Motorollin on Amiga.org and see if he can help you, he's recently been creating "homebrew" kickstart 3.9's. At the very least he may help you a with a "backup" KS3.1 40.68

Redrumrola is also another good Amiga.org man to talk about kickstarts to. He wrote the Romulus and Remus tools that Motorollin was using.

rgen · 02 August 2006, 02:23

@keropi Can you dump the output of ShowConfig ? So we can see if this guru happens inside your eflash cards memory.

@alexh According to http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/search....flash&company= the eflash card is an autoconfig card, so I guess it simply adds it's memory during autoconfiguration to the adresslist which exec uses to look for rom modules.

keropi · 02 August 2006, 07:04

@rgen: eflash is DISABLED... it is just installed and nothing more...
showconfig does not give any info about the error, only strange thing it is it reports an MMU on my EC030....

kickflash is way better, but E3B has mine to check it with subway

alexh · 02 August 2006, 10:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgen

@alexh According to http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/search....flash&company= the eflash card is an autoconfig card, so I guess it simply adds it's memory during autoconfiguration to the adresslist which exec uses to look for rom modules.

Which means that it needs some of the REAL Kickstart ROM to work and any problem/bug in the Kickstart ROM *might* still be present.

01 August 2006, 08:04	#1
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	WTH is software failure 8000 0025 07402210 ??? I cold start the 4000 with the 030 cpu card, and I get software failure 8000 0025 07402210 , press left mouse button to continue. I do that and works ok after that.... what is wrong?

02 August 2006, 00:45	#12
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,355	I do not understand how the eflash works. I have always been curious to know. If anyone can explain it to me I would appreciate it. If you can boot an Amiga with no physical kickstart chips in the sockets, but an eFlash in a zorro slot, then YES it probably will help. But I feel that the Zorro bootstrap routine lives in the real kickstart ROM. How much it needs before the eflash takes over and where the incompatibility is in the Kickstart ROM I dont know. Might be worth contacting Motorollin on Amiga.org and see if he can help you, he's recently been creating "homebrew" kickstart 3.9's. At the very least he may help you a with a "backup" KS3.1 40.68 Redrumrola is also another good Amiga.org man to talk about kickstarts to. He wrote the Romulus and Remus tools that Motorollin was using. Last edited by alexh; 02 August 2006 at 00:52.

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01 August 2006, 08:54	#2
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	that was EC030 warning get a better card ...maybe

01 August 2006, 10:02	#3
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	something to do with the cd/hd combination... removing the hd removes the prob too... bah, lame ide port

01 August 2006, 10:08	#4
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	can it be bad filesystem-kickstart combination?

01 August 2006, 10:15	#5
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	dunno gonna check some more

01 August 2006, 12:30	#6
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	without any IDE devices connected, it boots fine on the kick3.1 "insert disk" screen...

01 August 2006, 13:02	#8
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,355	Some "030" versions of software require the NOMMU tooltype. Perhaps that is it? Sometimes you have to use the 020 version.

01 August 2006, 14:08	#9
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	but EVEN if I put inside a BLANK HD, I still get that lame error... also I have only installed 3.9 + BB1+2 , nothing more...

01 August 2006, 21:02	#11
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	@Alexh: I have an eFlash 1MB on the 4000 , can it help?

02 August 2006, 02:23	#13
rgen Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Aachen/Germany Age: 46 Posts: 190	@keropi Can you dump the output of ShowConfig ? So we can see if this guru happens inside your eflash cards memory. @alexh According to http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/search....flash&company= the eflash card is an autoconfig card, so I guess it simply adds it's memory during autoconfiguration to the adresslist which exec uses to look for rom modules.

02 August 2006, 07:04	#14
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	@rgen: eflash is DISABLED... it is just installed and nothing more... showconfig does not give any info about the error, only strange thing it is it reports an MMU on my EC030.... kickflash is way better, but E3B has mine to check it with subway

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