Kickstart 1.3 with scsi.device

8bitbubsy · 25 July 2010, 01:06

Is there any modded kickstart 1.3 for A600 which supports the internal IDE connector?
I only use my A600 for old stuff, so I'd love to be able to boot into Workbench 1.3 from the HDD and run good old demos.

EDIT: THis might be a stupid question:
I have an EEPROM AMD 27C400 (512kB) with kick 3.1 in my A600, can I somehow run an app to reprogram the chip inside the Amiga? Or are the traces to the write pins missing or so? Missing hardware? :/

e5frog · 25 July 2010, 01:11

I believe I saw someone mention that yes - search for it.

Hewitson · 25 July 2010, 06:46

http://www2.gup.jku.at/~tkoeck/kick1....device_patch/

rkauer · 25 July 2010, 07:19

It is only a matter of using grabscsi (Aminet) and then using remus to add it to a custom 1.3 ROM.

Gaula92 · 12 May 2011, 00:39

Sorry to bring back this topic, but I'm looking for a patched KS 1.3 wich boots from A600's HD, too.

I have already got my scsi.device with grabscsi, but I don't even know what remus is, so I can't add it to my A500's KS 1.3.

KS 1.x is old stuff by now: maybe someone could upload a fine patched 1.3 to certain zone...

FOL · 12 May 2011, 00:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaula88@hotmail

Sorry to bring back this topic, but I'm looking for a patched KS 1.3 wich boots from A600's HD, too.

I have already got my scsi.device with grabscsi, but I don't even know what remus is, so I can't add it to my A500's KS 1.3.

KS 1.x is old stuff by now: maybe someone could upload a fine patched 1.3 to certain zone...

The patch file was lost, the host no longer works.
Also asking for a patched kickstart is against the rules.

Remus does'nt work with KS1.3.

TCD · 12 May 2011, 00:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaula88@hotmail

KS 1.x is old stuff by now: maybe someone could upload a fine patched 1.3 to certain zone...

Nope sorry, still you can't : http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=eab..._ks_wb_faqitem

Gaula92 · 12 May 2011, 00:53

Sorry for asking, then.
Thanks anyway

mfilos · 05 September 2011, 14:02

Sorry for reviving this thread but I though it would be nice for peepz to know that today they uploaded on Aminet the lost archive

http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/kick13scsipatch

Just made a Kickstart 1.3 with the patched 43.45 scsi.device but need to test it out :P
Edit: I tested it under WinUAE and it seems to work just fine! (ofc I enabled A600/A1200 IDE emulation). With normal 1.3 ROM I get the Kickstart disk screen, and with the new one... HD boots into WB1.3 \o/

FOL · 06 September 2011, 00:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfilos

Sorry for reviving this thread but I though it would be nice for peepz to know that today they uploaded on Aminet the lost archive

http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/kick13scsipatch

Just made a Kickstart 1.3 with the patched 43.45 scsi.device but need to test it out :P
Edit: I tested it under WinUAE and it seems to work just fine! (ofc I enabled A600/A1200 IDE emulation). With normal 1.3 ROM I get the Kickstart disk screen, and with the new one... HD boots into WB1.3 \o/

This is awesome, thanks for letting us know.

mfilos · 11 September 2011, 22:42

I tonight made the test to the real thing.

1st step:
I burned my custom Kickstart 1.3 + SCSI.device onto a 27C400 Eprom and installed it to one of my A600. Kickstart 1.3 screen booted just fine and really quick.

2nd step:
Mounted an 64MB CF card under WinUAE and booted Install disk of Workbench 2.1 and prepared the CF disk under HDToolbox as a single partition and OFS filesystem.
Then I restarted and booted Workbench 1.3 using the custom Kickstart 1.3+SCSI image under WinUAE and Initialized the HD from the menus. After that, I copied the WB1.3 disk (copy df0: dh0: ALL CLONE).
A restart without floppy under WinUAE got me into Workbench 1.3 just fine!!! (although I had some minor messaged about HD problem - apparently cause I was using IDE0 emulation).

3rd step:
Mounted the CF card into the real A600 and powered on!
Workbench 1.3 booted just fine (with the same error messages that I had on WinUAE as well) but after clicking "Cancel" everything worked!

It was really nice to see WB1.3 via HD on an A600.

Experiment was successful

FOL · 12 September 2011, 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfilos

I tonight made the test to the real thing.

1st step:
I burned my custom Kickstart 1.3 + SCSI.device onto a 27C400 Eprom and installed it to one of my A600. Kickstart 1.3 screen booted just fine and really quick.

2nd step:
Mounted an 64MB CF card under WinUAE and booted Install disk of Workbench 2.1 and prepared the CF disk under HDToolbox as a single partition and OFS filesystem.
Then I restarted and booted Workbench 1.3 using the custom Kickstart 1.3+SCSI image under WinUAE and Initialized the HD from the menus. After that, I copied the WB1.3 disk (copy df0: dh0: ALL CLONE).
A restart without floppy under WinUAE got me into Workbench 1.3 just fine!!! (although I had some minor messaged about HD problem - apparently cause I was using IDE0 emulation).

3rd step:
Mounted the CF card into the real A600 and powered on!
Workbench 1.3 booted just fine (with the same error messages that I had on WinUAE as well) but after clicking "Cancel" everything worked!

It was really nice to see WB1.3 via HD on an A600.

Experiment was successful

You can use the FFS from 2.1, it works fine.
I dont get any errrors when booting.

I almost have a working bootable HDD, using ACAtune ,

.
Still a Work in progress.

mfilos · 12 September 2011, 12:29

True FOL with FFS of 2.1 I didn't have a single error.

Cheers

VincentGR · 23 December 2013, 14:02

So, I finally grabbed an 1.3 ROM from my A500.
I patched it correctly with Toni's scsi.device.
I don't have a ROM burner so is it possible to make a softkick?

23 December 2013, 14:12

Yes, i was wondering the same thing.
Is it possible to use a utility like relokick to boot an A500 with a custom made kickstart which includes scsi.device?

Mad-Matt · 23 December 2013, 15:49

Another option could be to use a boot floppy which mounts the hd via on disk mountlist and scsi.device and transfers control to the hd and boots from there saving precious memory used by softkicking. I had to use such a setup with my kick 37.299 A600 (as it had no inbuilt scsi.device).

The above is assuming wanting to use a real kickstart 1.3 or a hardware romswitcher should softkicking custom roms not doing what you want.

Jope · 23 December 2013, 17:24

Yep, no point in wasting all that RAM by softkicking if all you need is the scsi.device.. Loading a 512k kickstart off floppy gets really old anyway.. :-)

spoUP · 19 January 2016, 20:59

Hmm i only get "no matching patches" when i try to patch scsi device...?

Update: I grabbed scsi.device with romsplit, that was my problem. the getscsi tool should be used. I've got a kick 1.3 with scsi.device inside now!

spoUP · 20 January 2016, 01:22

ATM i have problems getting an 1.3 compatible HDF done, does anyone have an empty hdf to share that works with kick 1.3?

Arnie · 20 January 2016, 02:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoUP

ATM i have problems getting an 1.3 compatible HDF done, does anyone have an empty hdf to share that works with kick 1.3?

I could make you one. What size do you need and how many partitions?

25 July 2010, 01:06	#1
8bitbubsy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Norway Posts: 1,654	Kickstart 1.3 with scsi.device Is there any modded kickstart 1.3 for A600 which supports the internal IDE connector? I only use my A600 for old stuff, so I'd love to be able to boot into Workbench 1.3 from the HDD and run good old demos. EDIT: THis might be a stupid question: I have an EEPROM AMD 27C400 (512kB) with kick 3.1 in my A600, can I somehow run an app to reprogram the chip inside the Amiga? Or are the traces to the write pins missing or so? Missing hardware? :/ Last edited by 8bitbubsy; 25 July 2010 at 01:16.

05 September 2011, 14:02	#9
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 44 Posts: 1,900	Sorry for reviving this thread but I though it would be nice for peepz to know that today they uploaded on Aminet the lost archive http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/kick13scsipatch Just made a Kickstart 1.3 with the patched 43.45 scsi.device but need to test it out :P Edit: I tested it under WinUAE and it seems to work just fine! (ofc I enabled A600/A1200 IDE emulation). With normal 1.3 ROM I get the Kickstart disk screen, and with the new one... HD boots into WB1.3 \o/ Last edited by mfilos; 05 September 2011 at 15:23.

19 January 2016, 20:59	#18
spoUP Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: sweden Age: 45 Posts: 427	Hmm i only get "no matching patches" when i try to patch scsi device...? Update: I grabbed scsi.device with romsplit, that was my problem. the getscsi tool should be used. I've got a kick 1.3 with scsi.device inside now! Last edited by spoUP; 20 January 2016 at 01:30.

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25 July 2010, 01:11	#2
e5frog The Headstrong Join Date: May 2010 Location: Älvängen / Sweden Age: 48 Posts: 273	I believe I saw someone mention that yes - search for it.

25 July 2010, 06:46	#3
Hewitson Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 40 Posts: 3,771	http://www2.gup.jku.at/~tkoeck/kick1....device_patch/

25 July 2010, 07:19	#4
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 57 Posts: 3,482	It is only a matter of using grabscsi (Aminet) and then using remus to add it to a custom 1.3 ROM.

12 May 2011, 00:39	#5
Gaula92 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 518	Sorry to bring back this topic, but I'm looking for a patched KS 1.3 wich boots from A600's HD, too. I have already got my scsi.device with grabscsi, but I don't even know what remus is, so I can't add it to my A500's KS 1.3. KS 1.x is old stuff by now: maybe someone could upload a fine patched 1.3 to certain zone...

12 May 2011, 00:53	#8
Gaula92 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 518	Sorry for asking, then. Thanks anyway

11 September 2011, 22:42	#11
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 44 Posts: 1,900	I tonight made the test to the real thing. 1st step: I burned my custom Kickstart 1.3 + SCSI.device onto a 27C400 Eprom and installed it to one of my A600. Kickstart 1.3 screen booted just fine and really quick. 2nd step: Mounted an 64MB CF card under WinUAE and booted Install disk of Workbench 2.1 and prepared the CF disk under HDToolbox as a single partition and OFS filesystem. Then I restarted and booted Workbench 1.3 using the custom Kickstart 1.3+SCSI image under WinUAE and Initialized the HD from the menus. After that, I copied the WB1.3 disk (copy df0: dh0: ALL CLONE). A restart without floppy under WinUAE got me into Workbench 1.3 just fine!!! (although I had some minor messaged about HD problem - apparently cause I was using IDE0 emulation). 3rd step: Mounted the CF card into the real A600 and powered on! Workbench 1.3 booted just fine (with the same error messages that I had on WinUAE as well) but after clicking "Cancel" everything worked! It was really nice to see WB1.3 via HD on an A600. Experiment was successful

12 September 2011, 12:29	#13
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 44 Posts: 1,900	True FOL with FFS of 2.1 I didn't have a single error. Cheers

23 December 2013, 14:02	#14
VincentGR Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Greece Posts: 245	So, I finally grabbed an 1.3 ROM from my A500. I patched it correctly with Toni's scsi.device. I don't have a ROM burner so is it possible to make a softkick?

23 December 2013, 14:12	#15
alex76gr Posts: n/a	Yes, i was wondering the same thing. Is it possible to use a utility like relokick to boot an A500 with a custom made kickstart which includes scsi.device?

23 December 2013, 15:49	#16
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,838	Another option could be to use a boot floppy which mounts the hd via on disk mountlist and scsi.device and transfers control to the hd and boots from there saving precious memory used by softkicking. I had to use such a setup with my kick 37.299 A600 (as it had no inbuilt scsi.device). The above is assuming wanting to use a real kickstart 1.3 or a hardware romswitcher should softkicking custom roms not doing what you want.

23 December 2013, 17:24	#17
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 42 Posts: 9,530	Yep, no point in wasting all that RAM by softkicking if all you need is the scsi.device.. Loading a 512k kickstart off floppy gets really old anyway.. :-)

20 January 2016, 01:22	#19
spoUP Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: sweden Age: 45 Posts: 427	ATM i have problems getting an 1.3 compatible HDF done, does anyone have an empty hdf to share that works with kick 1.3?

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