A4000 graphiccards..

poppe · 26 June 2005, 16:06

Looking for a graphiccard for my a4000. Thinking of cybervision and picasso IV. Both are hard to find, seems to be a couple of cybervisioncards on ebay but none with scandoubler/flickerfixer extension. So im now thinking of getting myself some cheaper card to play with until I find one of the above. The Picollo and the Picasso II card seems intresting, anyone has any experience with these? Im not inte 3d games, i only want bigger and faster workbench and maybe play some foundation in a higher resolution... Nothing more than that.

Regards.

AMIGAZ · 26 June 2005, 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by poppe

Looking for a graphiccard for my a4000. Thinking of cybervision and picasso IV. Both are hard to find, seems to be a couple of cybervisioncards on ebay but none with scandoubler/flickerfixer extension. So im now thinking of getting myself some cheaper card to play with until I find one of the above. The Picollo and the Picasso II card seems intresting, anyone has any experience with these? Im not inte 3d games, i only want bigger and faster workbench and maybe play some foundation in a higher resolution... Nothing more than that.

Regards.

I would go for a Cybervision 64 (4meg version) so you can use native screenmodes as well.
The other cards often have 2mb of gfx memory and I don't believe the can work with the same high resolution as the CV64.

BippyM · 26 June 2005, 17:51

Poppe this should be in Marketplace forum and nor prb.hardware if you are looking to buy a gfx card!

Will be moved shortly!!

Also rename the thread to WTB: A4000 Gfx card or similar if you are looking to buy

poppe · 26 June 2005, 19:07

sorry if it not was clear enough, but: im not looking for buying. simply looking for tips on what gfxcard that would be a good card to get.

BippyM · 26 June 2005, 19:09

oh okay

It's cool then

poppe · 26 June 2005, 19:11

Does the cybervision64 have passtrough for ordinary PAL resolutions even without the scandoubler/flickerfixer option?

AMIGAZ · 26 June 2005, 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by poppe

Does the cybervision64 have passtrough for ordinary PAL resolutions even without the scandoubler/flickerfixer option?

Yep

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Buy one of these

DoctorQ · 26 June 2005, 20:22

Hmm, aren't you guys mixing something up here? The CyberVision 64 (non 3D) has builtin monitorswitcher, and the CyberVision 64/3D needs to have the scandoubler/flickerfixer module installed in order to display PAL screens. Or am I wrong?

kriz · 26 June 2005, 20:55

DoctorQ: you are right, the old Cybervision64 doesnt have a scandoubler, only built in switcher .. i use one and have an external scandoubler and it works 100%! (its one big card) I can recomend this option..

The newer cvision64 3D (and cv64 3D MkII) have to have a "module" installed to show pal screens...

manicx · 27 June 2005, 08:51

I have both a Picasso II (2MB) and a CV64 (4MB). The later is much better and even though they both have a pass through for native modes, you'll need a scandoubler to view them in a SVGA monitor. If you are lucky enough to find a CV64/3D with the extra SD module this is fine. Otherwise try to find a scandoubler module as well. I run both cards in two A4000 with internal Arxon scandoublers (they attach to the video slot). If you are lucky, you will find them in the German eBay. I bought both for 40 euros in total and they work like a dream.

Alternatively, you may have to look for a PIV, but you'll have to pay a lot for one of those.

Slayer · 27 June 2005, 09:09

nodnod,

I have the CV643D in my A4000 PPC233/060 Tower and a Picasso II+ in this A4000 desktop... both run P96 software and given me no problems...

alexh · 27 June 2005, 10:48

I dont think you should dismiss the Mediator A4000Di. Although initially 2x the price of a Zorro GFX card, it makes sense if you have plans to expand your Amiga in the future.

For approx £160 you get :

Mediator A4000Di
Virge 4mb gfx card
10/100 Ethernet Card
USB card
Soundblaster PCI128 sound card

patrik · 28 June 2005, 01:24

@alexh:

Still no autoswitcher with the mediator route. I think anyone who has ever had such a card would rate that option very high.

/Patrik

adolescent · 28 June 2005, 07:10

@Patrik

Not really. I don't see the big deal with pushing a button to switch between Voodoo and native output. Plus the $25 I spent on the switch and cables is still less than I would have paid for a Zorro card.

keropi · 28 June 2005, 07:24

switchers suck...

alexh · 28 June 2005, 08:25

I've got a dual input Iiyama monitor and it has two inputs (1x15-pin, 1xcomponent) and auto-switches itself.

keropi · 28 June 2005, 09:04

now that's a nice monitor...
the manual video-switch was the main reason I removed the G-Rex1200 from my system...

kriz · 28 June 2005, 13:49

yes, i also have an old HP 21" (CRT) wich got 2 inputs , all monitors should have 2 or more !!

adolescent · 29 June 2005, 07:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by keropi

switchers suck...

Well it's the price you pay to have more modern hardware.

keropi · 29 June 2005, 07:41

I wish I could find a BVision Automon...

26 June 2005, 16:06	#1
poppe Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Umeå Age: 46 Posts: 196	A4000 Gfx card Looking for a graphiccard for my a4000. Thinking of cybervision and picasso IV. Both are hard to find, seems to be a couple of cybervisioncards on ebay but none with scandoubler/flickerfixer extension. So im now thinking of getting myself some cheaper card to play with until I find one of the above. The Picollo and the Picasso II card seems intresting, anyone has any experience with these? Im not inte 3d games, i only want bigger and faster workbench and maybe play some foundation in a higher resolution... Nothing more than that. Regards. Last edited by poppe; 26 June 2005 at 19:01.

27 June 2005, 10:48	#12
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	I dont think you should dismiss the Mediator A4000Di. Although initially 2x the price of a Zorro GFX card, it makes sense if you have plans to expand your Amiga in the future. For approx £160 you get : Mediator A4000Di Virge 4mb gfx card 10/100 Ethernet Card USB card Soundblaster PCI128 sound card

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26 June 2005, 17:51	#3
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Poppe this should be in Marketplace forum and nor prb.hardware if you are looking to buy a gfx card! Will be moved shortly!! Also rename the thread to WTB: A4000 Gfx card or similar if you are looking to buy

26 June 2005, 19:07	#4
poppe Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Umeå Age: 46 Posts: 196	sorry if it not was clear enough, but: im not looking for buying. simply looking for tips on what gfxcard that would be a good card to get.

26 June 2005, 19:09	#5
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	oh okay It's cool then

26 June 2005, 19:11	#6
poppe Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Umeå Age: 46 Posts: 196	Does the cybervision64 have passtrough for ordinary PAL resolutions even without the scandoubler/flickerfixer option?

26 June 2005, 20:22	#8
DoctorQ What?? Who?? DoctorQ!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Rødding/Denmark Age: 43 Posts: 314	Hmm, aren't you guys mixing something up here? The CyberVision 64 (non 3D) has builtin monitorswitcher, and the CyberVision 64/3D needs to have the scandoubler/flickerfixer module installed in order to display PAL screens. Or am I wrong?

26 June 2005, 20:55	#9
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,185	DoctorQ: you are right, the old Cybervision64 doesnt have a scandoubler, only built in switcher .. i use one and have an external scandoubler and it works 100%! (its one big card) I can recomend this option.. The newer cvision64 3D (and cv64 3D MkII) have to have a "module" installed to show pal screens...

27 June 2005, 08:51	#10
manicx Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 991	I have both a Picasso II (2MB) and a CV64 (4MB). The later is much better and even though they both have a pass through for native modes, you'll need a scandoubler to view them in a SVGA monitor. If you are lucky enough to find a CV64/3D with the extra SD module this is fine. Otherwise try to find a scandoubler module as well. I run both cards in two A4000 with internal Arxon scandoublers (they attach to the video slot). If you are lucky, you will find them in the German eBay. I bought both for 40 euros in total and they work like a dream. Alternatively, you may have to look for a PIV, but you'll have to pay a lot for one of those.

27 June 2005, 09:09	#11
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	nodnod, I have the CV643D in my A4000 PPC233/060 Tower and a Picasso II+ in this A4000 desktop... both run P96 software and given me no problems...

28 June 2005, 01:24	#13
patrik Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Umeå Age: 43 Posts: 922	@alexh: Still no autoswitcher with the mediator route. I think anyone who has ever had such a card would rate that option very high. /Patrik

28 June 2005, 07:10	#14
adolescent Powered by Motorola Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Age: 52 Posts: 1,065	@Patrik Not really. I don't see the big deal with pushing a button to switch between Voodoo and native output. Plus the $25 I spent on the switch and cables is still less than I would have paid for a Zorro card.

28 June 2005, 07:24	#15
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	switchers suck...

28 June 2005, 08:25	#16
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	I've got a dual input Iiyama monitor and it has two inputs (1x15-pin, 1xcomponent) and auto-switches itself.

28 June 2005, 09:04	#17
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	now that's a nice monitor... the manual video-switch was the main reason I removed the G-Rex1200 from my system...

28 June 2005, 13:49	#18
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,185	yes, i also have an old HP 21" (CRT) wich got 2 inputs , all monitors should have 2 or more !!

29 June 2005, 07:41	#20
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	I wish I could find a BVision Automon...

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