Judge Dredd - RAWDIC: File exceeds diskimage message?

[BarryB]

Installing a CT RAW of Judge Dredd in WinUAE using the v1.1 WHDLoad and the message 'File exceeds diskimage' pops up after reading Disk 1 to track 112 in RAWDIC (V5 and v6) then asks for Disk 1 again?

Strangely, Disk 2 only has data to track 112, rest are unformatted! Disk 1 has data past track 112!

I've sent the KF dump to Denis just to chek the dump is OK or needs cleaning/re-dumping so waiting for his analysis but the CT RAW of Disk 1 loads in WinUAE, just won't install in WHDLoad!

[alexh]

Interesting there is no Mantis page for Judge Dredd. Try reporting it and upload the image to "The Zone"

https://whdload.de/mantis/main_page.php

[BarryB]

Originally Posted by alexh

Interesting there is no Mantis page for Judge Dredd. Try reporting it and upload the image to "The Zone"

https://whdload.de/mantis/main_page.php

Once Denis has verified the dump is good I can then report the issue, it could be a bad dump or an alternate version!!

I've upload the CT RAW images from my dump to The Zone, I think it uses KMDos by Steve Snake!

[dlfrsilver]

Ok, i'll go eating lunch, and i will zone back the game in IPF in the zone.

The reason behind all this is that this game use a format unsupported by Disk-analyse.

Judge Dredd use the Ronald Pieket-Weeserik format Type 3, (RPW3) (sync track $5122, preceded with 2 gap bytes).

[BarryB]

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Ok, i'll go eating lunch, and i will zone back the game in IPF in the zone.

The reason behind all this is that this game use a format unsupported by Disk-analyse.

Judge Dredd use the Ronald Pieket-Weeserik format Type 3, (RPW3) (sync track $5122, preceded with 2 gap bytes).

Abaddon has taken a quick look at the dump too and made a decoder for it but not pushed it out yet!

RPW format is named as sales_curve in disk-utilities for St Dragon and SWIV, Ninja Warriors has it's own format, are there more RPW games?

[dlfrsilver]

Originally Posted by BarryB

Abaddon has taken a quick look at the dump too and made a decoder for it but not pushed it out yet!

RPW format is named as sales_curve in disk-utilities for St Dragon and SWIV, Ninja Warriors has it's own format, are there more RPW games?

I think you listed the main ones.

EDIT : IPF zoned

[BarryB]

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

I think you listed the main ones.

EDIT : IPF zoned

If there are only 3 then they could be lumped under the RPW format name in disk-utilities, not sure how much effort that would need or if it's even worth it!!

Thanks for IPF At least the dump was good enough to create them!! I'll try the IPF under WHDLoad and see if it installs, if not i'll report it on Mantis as per Alexh's suggestion!

[Abaddon]

Originally Posted by BarryB

Abaddon has taken a quick look at the dump too and made a decoder for it but not pushed it out yet!

RPW format is named as sales_curve in disk-utilities for St Dragon and SWIV, Ninja Warriors has it's own format, are there more RPW games?

Looking at the track loader code for SWIV, St Dragon, and Judge Dredd. I would never have linked Dredd to the same format as the coding style is quite different and the track layout of Dredd is different. The only difference between SWIV and ST Dragon is the sync. Whereas, Dredd has a different sync, 2 byte gap, raw value 0xaa92 after the gap and then data. The data length is also slightly shorter.

[alexh]

So the consensus is this is a good dump but it's a different version to the one supported by the current WHDload slave?

[BarryB]

Originally Posted by alexh

So the consensus is this is a good dump but it's a different version to the one supported by the current WHDload slave?

Correct, Both Abaddon and Denis have created IPF's from my dump and both sets show the 'File Exceeds diskimage!' message and fail to install Disk 1 in WHDLoad!

Have reported it as a RAWDIC issue seeing as there is no Judge Dredd Mantis page!

[BarryB]

Originally Posted by Abaddon

Looking at the track loader code for SWIV, St Dragon, and Judge Dredd. I would never have linked Dredd to the same format as the coding style is quite different and the track layout of Dredd is different. The only difference between SWIV and ST Dragon is the sync. Whereas, Dredd has a different sync, 2 byte gap, raw value 0xaa92 after the gap and then data. The data length is also slightly shorter.

I don't know how SPS came up with their format names, unless they actually 'knew' it was Ron Pieket who coded the disk format for each game?

[dlfrsilver]

Originally Posted by BarryB

I don't know how SPS came up with their format names, unless they actually 'knew' it was Ron Pieket who coded the disk format for each game?

It's the case. I guess they had a talk or chat with Ron.

[BarryB]

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

It's the case. I guess they had a talk or chat with Ron.

Codetapper actually interviewed Ron Pieket but no mention of Judge Dredd appeared in that interview: https://codetapper.com/amiga/intervi...eket-weeserik/

[dlfrsilver]

Originally Posted by BarryB

Codetapper actually interviewed Ron Pieket but no mention of Judge Dredd appeared in that interview: https://codetapper.com/amiga/intervi...eket-weeserik/

Ron only talked on the games he worked on. The disk Mastering and the tools that comes with it are another subject.

Look for the DMA DOS system : made by DMA Design, used on shadow of the beast 3.

[BarryB]

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Ron only talked on the game he worked on. The disk Mastering and the tools that comes with it are another subject.

Look for the DMA DOS system : made by DMA Design, used on shadow of the beast 3.

Yeah, I guess a lot of disk formats were used on games not directly coded by the original author!