Jedi Outcast Warpos - Page 2

Cowcat · 29 July 2020, 19:28

@BULI

Nice ! Difficult to play with only one hand.

Weird that those windows are shadowed. The gfx card is a Radeon?

trixster · 29 July 2020, 20:03

Voodoo

Hedeon · 29 July 2020, 22:58

What is that moving across the SW letters in the opening screen? (with new, load, etc)

And of course it is a voodoo.

BULI · 30 July 2020, 11:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowcat

@BULI

Nice ! Difficult to play with only one hand.

Weird that those windows are shadowed. The gfx card is a Radeon?

Yes, Voodoo only :-(
Which windows? On Workbench Screen?
This is only Workbench 3.9 and 1920x1200 16bit without any add features.

BULI · 30 July 2020, 12:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

What is that moving across the SW letters in the opening screen? (with new, load, etc)

And of course it is a voodoo.

You asked about 1:46 on video?
I don't know what it is (in left corner), looks like an incorrect showing bitmap.
I have this "something" always when I choose "new game", is allways before video/intro on start.
Probably this is something in my version of Jedi Outcas

Cowcat · 30 July 2020, 14:04

The 1:46 wrong left picture is the failure of a proper glReadPixels function that is actually not finished in old minigl. In the game is a courtain movie effect (transitions between scenes).

Also glReadPixels arrays is used for taking screenshots from the game.

If you ask, BlitzQuake has it done differently because it directly puts the image in a file but for all quakes after, none of that works.

BTW if someone knows how readpixelarrays work in Amiga.....

Hedeon · 30 July 2020, 15:40

No, I meant 1:14 - 1:16

BULI · 30 July 2020, 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

No, I meant 1:14 - 1:16

Ooo, It's looks like "light reflection" effect.. ?

On start in this video, this effect looks different:
[ Show youtube player ]
Look carefully at the STAR WARS fonts.

Hedeon · 30 July 2020, 17:29

Yes! I guess that is an error. Also for the SW fanatics (as BULI skipped it in his video) the opening crawl does not work correctly.

BULI · 30 July 2020, 21:10

Quote:

the opening crawl

What do you mean?

Hedeon · 30 July 2020, 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by BULI

What do you mean?

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Opening_crawl

BULI · 30 July 2020, 22:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Opening_crawl

Yes, right this titles are showing incorrect in beta1, and beta2

They are unreadable and look like this:

fitzsteve · 30 July 2020, 23:13

Chances of this working with BPPC/Bvison?

Cowcat · 01 August 2020, 17:59

@fitzsteve

A working slideshow. One of the culprits of all those ports after Q3 are the huge amount of textures and their sizes. A blizzvision with only 8mg can't cope.

Jedi on top of that uses mp3 audio files.

fitzsteve · 06 August 2020, 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowcat

@fitzsteve

A working slideshow. One of the culprits of all those ports after Q3 are the huge amount of textures and their sizes. A blizzvision with only 8mg can't cope.

Jedi on top of that uses mp3 audio files.

Thanks for the Info, just looking at the PC specs, P4 @1.8ghz so hats off to you for making this work on Amiga at all

BULI · 13 August 2020, 07:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowcat

@fitzsteve

A working slideshow. One of the culprits of all those ports after Q3 are the huge amount of textures and their sizes. A blizzvision with only 8mg can't cope.

Jedi on top of that uses mp3 audio files.

I have to admit the game is really good but difficult.
I finished firs level, and without very often saveing, I couldnt do it.

BTW
Don't work quick save (F9), it is very useful for weak player like me.
Quick load (F10), seem to work.

Cowcat · 13 August 2020, 09:40

@BULI

I finished it yesterday :P
And then later I found what made lockarrays crash the game in certain places, so a new version is on the works.

Certainly parts of some levels are pretty low on framerate (long distances in some scenes) but with patience, game is enjoyable specially when you get Jedi powers and saber combat with 3rd person view changes completely the way the game was played.

Found too that the crawl text on first movie fails to be as supposed due to texture dimensions (256k by default). I made a switch for a custom texture size but I think with Voodoo3 gfx cards that doesn't work.

Another "nuance" is saving only have 99 slots so if you do it often better to delete old ones or you will write the last one.

BULI · 13 August 2020, 10:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowcat

@BULI

I finished it yesterday :P
And then later I found what made lockarrays crash the game in certain places, so a new version is on the works.

Certainly parts of some levels are pretty low on framerate (long distances in some scenes) but with patience, game is enjoyable specially when you get Jedi powers and saber combat with 3rd person view changes completely the way the game was played.

Found too that the crawl text on first movie fails to be as supposed due to texture dimensions (256k by default). I made a switch for a custom texture size but I think with Voodoo3 gfx cards that doesn't work.

Another "nuance" is saving only have 99 slots so if you do it often better to delete old ones or you will write the last one.

Congratulations, the game seems to be reall good, like Dark Forces (I played long time ago on ShapeShifter/Fusion)

About crawl text, yes it looks like wrong/ low quality texture size

Yes, I'm cleaning saves, time to time.
Does the Quick Save (F9) work for you?

Cowcat · 15 August 2020, 20:25

@BULI (F9) nope.

New beta3: Fixed lockarrays, upgraded code and added "r_customtexturesize" for gfx cards that can allocate more than 256k sized textures.

Hedeon · 15 August 2020, 21:16

Lockarrays do..what? :-) Nice job!

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29 July 2020, 19:28	#21
Cowcat Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Mallorca Posts: 758	@BULI Nice ! Difficult to play with only one hand. Weird that those windows are shadowed. The gfx card is a Radeon?

29 July 2020, 20:03	#22
trixster Guru Meditating Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: England Posts: 2,337	Voodoo

29 July 2020, 22:58	#23
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 1,993	What is that moving across the SW letters in the opening screen? (with new, load, etc) And of course it is a voodoo.

30 July 2020, 14:04	#26
Cowcat Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Mallorca Posts: 758	The 1:46 wrong left picture is the failure of a proper glReadPixels function that is actually not finished in old minigl. In the game is a courtain movie effect (transitions between scenes). Also glReadPixels arrays is used for taking screenshots from the game. If you ask, BlitzQuake has it done differently because it directly puts the image in a file but for all quakes after, none of that works. BTW if someone knows how readpixelarrays work in Amiga.....

30 July 2020, 15:40	#27
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 1,993	No, I meant 1:14 - 1:16

30 July 2020, 17:29	#29
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 1,993	Yes! I guess that is an error. Also for the SW fanatics (as BULI skipped it in his video) the opening crawl does not work correctly.

30 July 2020, 23:13	#33
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Chances of this working with BPPC/Bvison?

01 August 2020, 17:59	#34
Cowcat Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Mallorca Posts: 758	@fitzsteve A working slideshow. One of the culprits of all those ports after Q3 are the huge amount of textures and their sizes. A blizzvision with only 8mg can't cope. Jedi on top of that uses mp3 audio files.

13 August 2020, 09:40	#37
Cowcat Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Mallorca Posts: 758	@BULI I finished it yesterday :P And then later I found what made lockarrays crash the game in certain places, so a new version is on the works. Certainly parts of some levels are pretty low on framerate (long distances in some scenes) but with patience, game is enjoyable specially when you get Jedi powers and saber combat with 3rd person view changes completely the way the game was played. Found too that the crawl text on first movie fails to be as supposed due to texture dimensions (256k by default). I made a switch for a custom texture size but I think with Voodoo3 gfx cards that doesn't work. Another "nuance" is saving only have 99 slots so if you do it often better to delete old ones or you will write the last one.

15 August 2020, 20:25	#39
Cowcat Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Mallorca Posts: 758	@BULI (F9) nope. New beta3: Fixed lockarrays, upgraded code and added "r_customtexturesize" for gfx cards that can allocate more than 256k sized textures.

15 August 2020, 21:16	#40
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 1,993	Lockarrays do..what? :-) Nice job!

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