Barbarian - The Ultimate Warrior, still awesome!

ZEUSDAZ · 20 May 2021, 16:34

Let's face it, this was one of the best Amiga beat'em-up slashers of It's time especially in 2 player co-op mode, and who can forget those head rolling decapitations

which caused an outcry especially in Germany.

I decided to record a full playthrough of it without any cheats with my thoughts, I hope some of you enjoy it

Let's Longplay: Barbarian: [ Show youtube player ]

Predseda · 20 May 2021, 19:08

Missing music. C64 version is superior.

frozen · 20 May 2021, 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predseda

Missing music. C64 version is superior.

Yes, C64 version is wonderful....

saimon69 · 20 May 2021, 19:59

Barbarian + has music but then other problems

eXeler0 · 20 May 2021, 21:32

Never played it on Amiga. =)
Had a c64/128 when Barbarian came out and it was fantastic on the 64 with the great chip tune by Richard Joseph (RIP).
2 player mode vs my brother, good times.

Tigerskunk · 21 May 2021, 07:51

Always thought of this as a lazy port, seeing how crazy amazing the C64 version was.

Disappointing.

Retro-Nerd · 21 May 2021, 09:18

I agree. Very boring Amiga port. The C64 and CPC versions used the hardware much better.

alain.treesong · 21 May 2021, 13:10

Exactly : the CPC version was awesome in a technical point of view : gfx and audio and I loved playing it.
I never managed to play to the Amiga version more than 5 minutes.
A good idea would be to refactor the amiga version (by doubling the size of the warrior for example). Perhaps somebody is interested in doing that ?

edit : here is an example of what could be nice. The warrior has its size increased by 50% (about 48x104 on the example). I have also increase the total view (always on low pal resolution 320x256 but the orginal view is only 304x192). It is quicky done with gimp but it gives an idea :

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eXeler0 · 21 May 2021, 13:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by alain.treesong

Exactly : the CPC version was awesome in a technical point of view : gfx and audio and I loved playing it.
I never managed to play to the Amiga version more than 5 minutes.
A good idea would be to refactor the amiga version (by doubling the size of the warrior for example). Perhaps somebody is interested in doing that ?

Barbarian + was done a couple of years ago by someone who also thought the original port was embarassing, no?

malko · 21 May 2021, 13:29

^ Don't you like Barbarian+ ?
[ Show youtube player ]

Edit: damn... for a few seconds eXceler0

alain.treesong · 21 May 2021, 13:37

@eXeler0
@malko
Yes but barbarian + has not a good gameplay (I finished it after only 3 tries and because of the sorcerer in the two first tries) and is not playable on A500 (too slow).
Nice graphics anyway but disappointing. Sorry for the designers that probably put a lot of time in it.

saimon69 · 21 May 2021, 18:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by alain.treesong

@eXeler0
@malko
Yes but barbarian + has not a good gameplay (I finished it after only 3 tries and because of the sorcerer in the two first tries) and is not playable on A500 (too slow).
Nice graphics anyway but disappointing. Sorry for the designers that probably put a lot of time in it.

Yeah, looks like the tool used (amos) was not to expectation - if someone want to make the engine in C please contact Colin or 10shu

eXeler0 · 21 May 2021, 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by saimon69

Yeah, looks like the tool used (amos) was not to expectation - if someone want to make the engine in C please contact Colin or 10shu

Barbarian++ ? ;-)

alain.treesong · 21 May 2021, 19:40

It's an obvious troll but I'll say it anyway: Amos has nothing to do with the problem. But back to the barbarian topic.

@eXeler0
Yes why not Barbarian ++. After all we have an Amiga 1000++. Usually it is called Amiga 1200 :-)

HapyLeatherface · 21 July 2021, 16:08

I like Barbarian + quite a lot , and I like Barbarian II , too ..

saimon69 · 21 July 2021, 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXeler0

Barbarian++ ? ;-)

As long as is not Barbarian.net all is good :P

saimon69 · 21 July 2021, 18:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by alain.treesong

It's an obvious troll but I'll say it anyway: Amos has nothing to do with the problem. But back to the barbarian topic.

Well remember i was on the dev team (as musician but still): i seem to remember problem was the AI computation is pretty resource intensive if made in Amos the way was made

dlfrsilver · 21 July 2021, 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozen

Yes, C64 version is wonderful....

the c64 version with music activated has wonderful slowdowns.

and the hardware acceleration only used when you chop the head of your opponent is rubbish. the game runs at 25fps with music, and then you pass to 50 fps when decapitation occurs. awful...

hexaae · 14 August 2021, 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by saimon69

Well remember i was on the dev team (as musician but still): i seem to remember problem was the AI computation is pretty resource intensive if made in Amos the way was made

Oh... I always wondered if there was a Barbarian+ 1.1 release I missed with improved AI (in particular smarter opponents against head-chop move)

With improved sounds and AI would be absolutely great IMHO...

mkrleza · 10 January 2022, 06:29

Whatever the others might say, I really enjoyed that game in my youth...

20 May 2021, 16:34	#1
ZEUSDAZ Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: England Posts: 743	Barbarian - The Ultimate Warrior, still awesome! Let's face it, this was one of the best Amiga beat'em-up slashers of It's time especially in 2 player co-op mode, and who can forget those head rolling decapitations which caused an outcry especially in Germany. I decided to record a full playthrough of it without any cheats with my thoughts, I hope some of you enjoy it Let's Longplay: Barbarian: [ Show youtube player ] Last edited by ZEUSDAZ; 02 July 2022 at 00:55.

21 May 2021, 13:10	#8
alain.treesong Aghnar Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: France Posts: 153	Exactly : the CPC version was awesome in a technical point of view : gfx and audio and I loved playing it. I never managed to play to the Amiga version more than 5 minutes. A good idea would be to refactor the amiga version (by doubling the size of the warrior for example). Perhaps somebody is interested in doing that ? edit : here is an example of what could be nice. The warrior has its size increased by 50% (about 48x104 on the example). I have also increase the total view (always on low pal resolution 320x256 but the orginal view is only 304x192). It is quicky done with gimp but it gives an idea : Last edited by alain.treesong; 21 May 2021 at 13:32.

21 July 2021, 16:08	#15
HapyLeatherface Registered User Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Germany Posts: 2	I like it a lot when a game is not much too challenging I like Barbarian + quite a lot , and I like Barbarian II , too ..

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20 May 2021, 19:08	#2
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	Missing music. C64 version is superior.

20 May 2021, 19:59	#4
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	Barbarian + has music but then other problems

20 May 2021, 21:32	#5
eXeler0 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 2,946	Never played it on Amiga. =) Had a c64/128 when Barbarian came out and it was fantastic on the 64 with the great chip tune by Richard Joseph (RIP). 2 player mode vs my brother, good times.

21 May 2021, 07:51	#6
Tigerskunk Inviyya Dude! Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Amiga Island Posts: 2,770	Always thought of this as a lazy port, seeing how crazy amazing the C64 version was. Disappointing.

21 May 2021, 09:18	#7
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,436	I agree. Very boring Amiga port. The C64 and CPC versions used the hardware much better.

21 May 2021, 13:29	#10
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	^ Don't you like Barbarian+ ? [ Show youtube player ] Edit: damn... for a few seconds eXceler0

21 May 2021, 13:37	#11
alain.treesong Aghnar Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: France Posts: 153	@eXeler0 @malko Yes but barbarian + has not a good gameplay (I finished it after only 3 tries and because of the sorcerer in the two first tries) and is not playable on A500 (too slow). Nice graphics anyway but disappointing. Sorry for the designers that probably put a lot of time in it.

21 May 2021, 19:40	#14
alain.treesong Aghnar Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: France Posts: 153	It's an obvious troll but I'll say it anyway: Amos has nothing to do with the problem. But back to the barbarian topic. @eXeler0 Yes why not Barbarian ++. After all we have an Amiga 1000++. Usually it is called Amiga 1200 :-)

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