28 August 2022, 16:41 | #1 |
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Multi-disk games 'locked' on DF0 list
another annoying list
no, wait, i just want to share here in the nostalgic forum surely for retro-cataloguing purpose, mainly a list of the Amiga multi disk games that refuse whatever external floppy drive; i don't know if we already have something similar here, in first btw, the list is not complete yet, i'm testing the .ipf set in the free time EDIT : i have added also all the cracked releases matches, if no ipf's are available yet the list should be complete now feel free to point out errors or add titles Code:
A.G.E. - Advanced Galactic Empire A.M.C. - Astro Marine Corps (cracked version test) After Burner (Activision 2 disks version) Air Support Alcatraz Alien 3 Alien Breed Alien Breed - Special Edition '92 Alien Breed Tower Assault (OCS & AGA) Alien Breed 3D 2 (AGA 2MB version)(cracked version test) 'Allo! 'Allo! Cartoon Fun! Altered Beast American Gladiators (cracked version test) Another World Apocalypse Aquanauts (cracked version test) Aquaventura Armalyte ATR - All Terrain Racing (cracked version test) B17 Flying Fortress B.A.T. B.A.T. II (cracked version test) Back to the Future - part III Bangkok Knights Barbarian II (Palace)(2 disks version) Bargon Attack Beavers Behind the Iron Gate Best of the Best - Championship Karate Beverly Hills Cop Black Sect (Fr) Blitz Tennis Blood Money Borobodur Brat Brian the Lion (OCS & AGA) Bubble Gun (cracked version test) Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show (cracked version test) Bump N Burn Cadaver California Games Campaign Carthage Celtic Legends Chuck Rock Chuck Rock 2 City Cars (cracked version test) Club Football - The Manager COALA (ECS & AGA) Combo Racer Corporation Cosmic Spacehead Cougar Force (cracked version test) Crime Time (cracked version test) Curse of Enchantia Cyber Empires (cracked version test) Cygnus 8 (.adf's) Dalek Attack Damage - the sadistic Butchering of Humanity (cracked version test) DarkSpyre Denaris (2 disks version) Deuteros Devious Designs Discovery - in the steps of Columbus Double Agent Dragonflight Dyter 07 (2 disks version)(cracked version test) Eagle's Rider East vs West - Berlin 1948 European Champions (Ocean) Exile (AGA) Exodus 3010 (cracked version test) Explora III (Fr) F1 Manager (cracked version test) F-19 Stealth Fighter Fantastic Dizzy (OCS) Fantastic Voyage Fatman - the Caped Consumer Fighter Bomber Fire and Ice First Samurai Flashback Forgotten Worlds Forest Dumb (Pl)(cracked version test) Forest Dumb Forever!!! (Pl)(cracked version test) Four Crystals of Trazere, The Frenetic Full Contact Fury of the Furries Future Space Fuzzball Galdregon's Domain Games, The - Summer Edition Games, The - Winter Edition Gateway Y (cracked version test) Garrison Garrison II Gem Stone Legend (cracked version test) Ghouls n Ghosts Gilbert - Escape from Drill Gobliiins Gobliins 2 Goblins 3 Golden Eagle (cracked version test) Grand National Grand Prix 500 2 (cracked version test) Guardian (AGA) Harlequin Hero's Quest - so you want to be a hero Hexuma (De) Highway Hawks Hoi Hollywood Poker Pro Home Alone Hot Rubber (.adf's) Hoyle's Official Book of Games Vol.1 Humans, The Immortal, The Ishar (OCS & AGA) Ishar 2 (OCS) Island of Lost Hope Jim Power Jinks Joe & Mac Caveman Ninja Kaiser (De)(cracked version test) Katakis Kick Off 3 (OCS & AGA) Killing Cloud, The Leisure Suit Larry II Legend Legend of Ragnarok (cracked version test) Little Red Riding Hood (cracked version test) Lombard RAC Rally Lorna (cracked version test) Lotus III Master Axe (AGA)(cracked version test) Maupiti Island Mega Twins Metal Masters Miami Chase Miki (Pl)(cracked version test) Missiles Over Xerion Mobile Warfare (.adf's) Moonshine Racers Morph (OCS) Mortal Weapon (Pl)(cracked version test) MOT (Fr)(cracked version test) Mr. Blobby Murders in Space Mystere - Fuga dal Castello di Lockness (It)(.adf's) New York Warriors Ninja Remix Ninja Warriors, The Olympique de Marseille Operation Stealth Operation Wolf Ork Oscar Out Run Europa Outlands (cracked version test) Overkill (AGA) Panza Kick Boxing Paradise Lost (cracked version test) Pierre le Chef is... Out to Lunch (AGA) Pinball Hazard Pinkie Poltergeist (cracked version test) Power Drift Playdays Predator (cracked version test) Predator 2 Premiere Prophecy I - the Viking Child Psyborg Push-Over Putty Squad (AGA)(cracked version test) Quik the Thunder Rabbit Rainbow Warriors (cracked version test) Ranx - the Videogame Realm of the Trolls (.adf's) Realms Retee 2! Robinson's Requiem (OCS)(.adf's) Robocop 2 Rock'n Roll Rooster (Pl)(cracked version test) Rooster II (Pl)(cracked version test) Rubicon Safari Guns (cracked version test) Samurai - the Way of the Warrior Sanctuary (De)(cracked version test) Savage Second Samurai (OCS & AGA) Silly Putty Sink or Swim Shadow of the Beast Shadow of the Beast II Shadow Sorcerer Skarb Templariuszy (Pl)(cracked version test) Skidmarks Snapperazzi Spaceball Space Gun Space Quest III Spirit of Adventure (cracked version test) StarRay Steel Empire Stellar Crusade Strike Aces Stryx Sturmtruppen (cracked version test) Super Cars Super Cars II Super Cauldron Super League Manager (AGA) Super Methane Bros (cracked version test) Super Ski II Super Skweek Super Space Invaders Super Sport Challenge Super Taekwondo Master (Pl)(cracked version test) Superman - the Man of Steel Surf Ninjas (AGA) Swords and Galleons (cracked version test) Tactical Manager Tactical Manager 2 Tennis Cup II Theatre of Death Thunder Jaws Thunderhawk AH-73M Time Race Time Soldier Tin Toy Adventure (AGA)(.adf's) Tiny Skweeks Tip Off Torvak the Warrior Transarctica (OCS) Transarctica (AGA)(cracked version test) Traps'n'Treasures Trolls (OCS & AGA) Turbo Out Run Tusker Ultima V Universe Venus the Flytrap VideoKid Vital Light Viz - the Game Walpurgis (PD game) Warm-Up (.adf's) Warriors of Releyne Ween - the Prophecy Wembley International Soccer (AGA) Western Games West Phaser (cracked version test) Whizz (OCS & AGA) Wings of Death Wizardry - Bane of the Cosmic Forge Wolfchild Wonder Dog Woody's World Worlds of Legend - Son of the Empire WWF European Rampage Tour WWF Wrestle Mania Xenon 2 (2 disks version) Xenophobe X-Out (2 disks version) Zool (OCS & AGA) Zool 2 (OCS) Last edited by kremiso; 15 November 2022 at 19:19. |
29 August 2022, 12:28 | #2 |
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When you say 'refuse whatever external floppy drive' do you mean even though an external drive is connected the game will not use it?
if so, Sly Spy (in WinUAE with DF1: enabled) says "PLEASE INSERT DISK B INTO DRIVE B" so it does use 2 drives!! |
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strange behaviour btw, if you insert both disks before booting the game will use just the internal drive! the df1 drive must be left empty, until the game will ask for the second disk after the boot ---- list updated (also with some new titles) thanks |
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Cracks will sometimes vary (for better or for worse) so it would be good to be clear in your list if it's a cracked version or the original/ipf
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29 August 2022, 20:32 | #6 |
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probably because they need that little bit extra ram to run. Additional drives soaks up your ram, it's a pain in the ass.
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at the end of the day, i think that the number of disk swaps is what count, overall i mean, to decide if add or not the extra drive(s); many games of this list are absolutely playables with just one or two swaps some games just have the intro (and some the outro too) on the first disk, and the game on second, and that's the least issue, if we can call issue in first imo the worst ones were those that needed a swap each time you were killed, with the main menu/high score on one disk, and the game on another many games would have benefited from just the use of the extra 512k trapdoor memory Last edited by kremiso; 30 August 2022 at 18:12. |
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list updated
EDIT i'm adding some cracked games too, if the disks are not included in the ipf Tosec Last edited by kremiso; 01 September 2022 at 19:20. |
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i got this curious error, trying to make work Mr.Blobby original ipf's;
it should be an OCS/ECS game, but for being an 1994 game, seems to refuse many configurations after a couple of fails, i have tried to boot the game with the second disk, using an AGA setting... not a guru or a reset, but this error message in return MiniOS version 1.0 reached to run it with a default A500 512k+512k slow conf, afterward |
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I was sure Settlers could handle multiple drives?
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checked again, another title with strange behaviour, but you are right
the strange thing, booting from the disk1 (intro) an inserting the other two disks in df1 and df2, all works ok but just the intro, cause when the game will try to load the real program (on disk2), will search it on df0 (mandatory) booting from disk3 (so skipping intro) is what i have tried with my tests, so the game will ask after a first load for the disk2 in df0 a solution for ks2.x and ks3.x users can be the gamedisk2 in df0 and gamedisk3 in df1 curious, thanks |
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the list is growing
i have noted a strange behaviour in Cedric and the Lost Sceptre, cracked versions (due no .ipf's around) on the manual there is written that the game uses until three floppy drives but, using an A500 or an A500+ configuration, with in add whatever RAM amount, i have reached the first level just using a single drive adding a second drive make crash the game at the end of the first level loading here someone can confirm? EDIT the standard .adf's disks set works fine instead so the problem could be in the PDY crack Last edited by kremiso; 09 September 2022 at 11:17. |
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i'm doing a second round check, using the hol database
to check what i have missed btw the list should be 80% complete atm, if not more about the results, a bit of shame for all the multidisk Coktel Vision games (Bargon Attack, Goblins serie, etc) or some Ubisoft ones (B.A.T., expecially the second one) that lack of the external drive(s) opportunity i have four games that i'm almost sure should be added to the list : - Future Wars, but i need to play it until the second disk check (also strange that is possible to set the savedisk on an external drive, but not the gamedisk) - Gobliins 2, same as Future Wars, i need to play until the first disk change - Zool (OCS & AGA), due the codewheel for Zool2 there is a very useful codelist, but i cannot find something also for the first chapter Last edited by kremiso; 28 September 2022 at 18:02. |
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The cracked version of Zool 2 certainly doesn't recognise a second drive, and infuriatingly it makes you swap from disk 1 to 2 and then back to disk 1 between levels (I don't remember the original doing this, it feels really shoddy, but it was a long time ago.
I don't mind this if there are 2 disks and you never need disk 1 again after swapping to disk 2, but its annoying when you need to swap after every level. I can't believe there are point 'n' click adventures on the list, surely the most disk-swap-hungry games of all. |
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another one was Turrican 2 Defjam, that after the third level required a double swap (disk2 and again disk1) before starting each further level, until the end. during my tests, i found some games that probably have a garbled data displacement into the disks like insert disk2, very short loading, insert disk3 or linear games that require a not ordered swap like ie a 4 disk game, that asks for disk4 after the first one Last edited by kremiso; 22 October 2022 at 20:53. |
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I am 99% sure Moonstone only accepts disks in DF0. Seem to remember it being very frustrating to play as I have 3 disk drives and 2.5mb of RAM on my Amiga 1000 lol nothing like the 'sip your cola while it loads more' Summer of It Came from the Desert 2022
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