Super League 2023: Round 3 - Cast Your Votes

[lifeschool]

Super League 2023 - Cast Your Votes


Special Round 1 - Alphabet

This vote ends at 23:59 (UK Time) on Saturday 11th February 2023.

Vote for up to 5 games, and rank them in order of preference 1st - 5th.
Each vote gives 10 points. At the end, the game with the most votes (or 1sts etc) wins.
Please choose games suitable for competition play.
If a game has ECS and AGA versions, state your preference. ECS is default.
Edited votes will not be counted.
Take a look at the Lemon voting choices HERE.

Special Rules:
Only vote for games which start with the letter 'P' as chosen by capehorn

The 44 games listed below have already been chosen in recent times, so you cannot vote for them:

2023 R02: Civilization
2023 R01: Xenon 2
2022 R14: Test Drive
2022 R13: Super Tennis Champs
2022 R13: Lollypop
2022 R12: Fire and Ice
2022 R11: Turrican
2022 R10: SWIV
2022 R09: River Raid Reloaded
2022 R09: Bob's Garden
2022 R08: Batman

2022 R07: Nicky Boom
2022 R06: Buggy Boy
2022 R05: Woodys World
2022 R05: Goal!
2022 R04: Sensible World of Soccer '96/'97
2022 R03: IK+
2022 R02: Wonderboy in Monsterland
2022 R01: Slam Tilt
2021 R14: Stunt Car Racer: TNT
2021 R13: Rubicon
2021 R13: Twinworld: Land of Vision

2021 R12: PGA Tour Golf
2021 R11: Super Cars II
2021 R10: Rodland
2021 R09: Tinyus
2021 R09: Tiny Bobble
2021 R08: CarVup
2021 R07: Qwak
2021 R06: Dyna Blaster
2021 R05: Lotus Esprit Turbo Challenge
2021 R05: Pang
2021 R04: Banshee

2021 R03: Switchblade II
2021 R02: Nitro
2021 R01: Super Hang-On
2020 R14: Bolo Mrówkojad
2020 R13: Wings of Death
2020 R13: Desert Strike
2020 R12: World Games
2020 R11: Cannon Fodder
2020 R10: Super Twintris
2020 R10: Soccer Kid
2020 R09: Fightin' Spirit

Questions:
If you have any questions, please get in touch with one of the moderators. Either lifeschool or John4p.

Everyone (especially guests) are welcome to play, vote, and chat at any time

[Harry]

1. Populous
2. Populous II The Challenge Games (Challenge)
3. Powermonger
4. Projectyle
5. Perfect General, The

[Biscuit]

1. Premiere
2. Prince of Persia
3. Pick 'n' Pile
4. Psyborg
5. Parasol Stars

[el_pasi]

1. Pierre Le Chef is... Out to Lunch
2. Pac-Mania
3. Parasol Stars
4. Platoon
5. Pinball Mania

[lifeschool]

Great work guys. I fixed the Lemon nosey link.

Voting continues for another few days. Still waiting for capehorn to add to the vote pool.

[Graham Humphrey]

1. Pierre Le Chef is... Out To Lunch
2. PGA European Tour
3. Pac-Mania
4. Project-X Special Edition
5. Parasol Stars

[capehorn]

Well, I chose P because I wanted some Pinball... so I suppose

1. Pinball Dreams
2. Pinball Fantasies

[john4p]

Results:

Pinball Dreams                     11111223

Pierre Le Chef is... Out to Lunch  1113355
Prince of Persia                   1122234
PGA European Tour                  1223345

Parasol Stars                      111355
Pac-Mania                          122335

Populous                           12345
Project-X Special Edition          13445

Pacific Islands                    2245

Pirates!                           111
Pinball Fantasies                  222
Pipe Mania                         245
Prehistorik                        333

P.P. Hammer                        24
Payback                            25
Pinball Mania                      35
Plotting                           44
Platoon                            45

Premiere                           1
Plumpy                             2
Populous II - The Challenge Games  2
Powerdrome                         2
Pegasus                            3
Pick 'n Pile                       3
Powermonger                        3
Pro Tennis Tour                    4
Puzznic                            3
Paperboy                           4
Pharaoh's Curse                    4
Premier Manager II                 4
Projectyle                         4
Psyborg                            4
Pengo                              5
The Perfect General                5
Plotting                           5
PSSST                              5

Received copies of Civilization and Pinball Dreams at the same time in fall '92.
Although they have absolutely nothing else in common they'll always be connected in my mind.
And now we're playing them back-to-back in the league.
Well, besides their release date they do have another thing in common - for each of them you could argue it's the best Amiga game ever created.
Slam Tilt has more impressive visual effects and mini games but by raw gameplay Pinball Dreams is still superior in my opinion (with unmatched music).

So after the maybe best Amiga game ever in round 2 we're going to play maybe the best Amiga game ever in round 3.

[john4p]

It's almost a given that capehorn is going to wrap the score on Beat Box again, thus let's go with his solution from 5 years ago:

Originally Posted by capehorn

Could I suggest that for practical reasons it might be a good idea to call the maximum score on this table 9,999,999,999 and award that score to anyone who shows that they have wrapped the score? I think that you can wrap the bonus (i.e. if you have a bonus of 5,001,000,000 and double it, it will become a bonus of only 2,000,000 - the 10 billion will be lost) which makes scores above 10b pretty random and unworkable.

When I wrapped the score in 2011 I think I doubled my bonus a few more times too, the actual score could have been anything, maybe hundreds of billions but I couldn't keep track, thankfully I was able to ditch the ball at one point with a score in the high 9 billions so I had a screenshot I didn't have to explain too much.

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[lifeschool]

Ok, max score for Beatbox is 9,999,999,999

[capehorn]

I think it's the only workable solution, as you can't prove what scores above 10b should be, without posting a full video and asking the mods to get forensic with their calculators out.

Originally Posted by john4p

It's almost a given that capehorn is going to wrap the score on Beat Box again, thus let's go with his solution from 5 years ago:

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It's still a very difficult thing to do! You need to hold and double the bonus, and get extra balls for about 10 balls in a row, I wouldn't say it's a given, although I will be trying! With scores like that possible, it might make the most sense to just play that one table for the three weeks hoping that you manage it at least once.

Another possible solution might be to just play the other three tables?

[john4p]

Originally Posted by lifeschool

Ok, max score for Beatbox is 9,999,999,999

Thanks.

Originally Posted by capehorn

Another possible solution might be to just play the other three tables?

Thought about that, too, but I'd prefer to play on all tables.

Originally Posted by capehorn

It's still a very difficult thing to do! You need to hold and double the bonus, and get extra balls for about 10 balls in a row, I wouldn't say it's a given, although I will be trying!

True, it's not easy at all.

Originally Posted by capehorn

With scores like that possible, it might make the most sense to just play that one table for the three weeks hoping that you manage it at least once.

Yep, that would definitely be my plan.

[capehorn]

I think that we should have a plan before the round starts for what proof is required to post a score of 10bn+. I was lucky that I was able to provide a video last time out, and even more lucky that the time before my final score was 19,700,000,000ish, which displayed at 9,700,000,000ish which is close to the maximum that the scoreboard can display anyway, so I wasn't too concerned whether the 10b was believed or not (I should emphasise how lucky that was, the end score could have been anything, it was dumb luck that it settled in the 9 billions, had I scored slightly more and had just over 20bn, the entire 20bn would have disappeared and I'd have had no proof). Similarly, there is a situation where someone could score 10,100,000,000 and the final score displayed as just 100,000,000 but not have full proof that 10 billion points had been truncated from their score.

The good news is that this won't happen out of the blue, the player will know when they are approaching a score in this region and if we let them know what proof is needed, they should be able to provide it. I'd say once a score reaches 1bn, take a screenshot of it in-play, and continue to do so at the end of each subsequent ball. Then at least two more screenshots, one of the bonus being tallied/added (the bonus in this scenario would probably be in excess of 1bn itself) and then a screenshot of the subsequent score after the bonus. If the score has wrapped after the bonus has been added, then this should be evident from these three screenshots.

There is still a possible problem with this - imagine a player with a score of 2bn and a bonus of 2.6bn which is multplied by 4. The bonus would wrap so that instead of being 10.4bn, it would be just 400m, and the end score would show as just 2.4bn. A solution would be that the player could take a screenshot of the bonus when it is shown 1x (i.e. 0:09 in my video) and when it is shown 4x (i.e. 0:11 in my video), this would show evidence of the bonus wrapping. However the player would only have about 1 second to realise that this is about to happen before that evidence is lost! I'm just putting this out there to show what potential problems we could have with this.

Of course a video would be preferable, although it's probably unfair to require it as from experience, if you've never taken a video from WinUAE it can be tricky to get the settings right (the video posted earlier I actually recorded in an uncompressed format, it cut out after 32 seconds because I ran out of disk space, I thought for a moment that meant that the video wasn't saved!)

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[john4p]

I think your suggestion works fine and is reasonable. Tbh. I think you will probably be the only one to be able to wrap the score anyway.