Atari ST games

Galaxy · 06 July 2004, 13:31

Having never owned an ST or played any of the games, I was wondering if there are any particularly good games on the ST that did not get released for the Amiga; and if there are any ST versions that are better than the corresponding Amiga version (please try to keep your responses objective, I think we're beyond the Amiga is better than ST/vice versa debate these days!)

RCK · 06 July 2004, 14:07

oids

Fred the Fop · 06 July 2004, 17:24

Also, there was Super Sprint.

http://www.atarilegend.com/games/gam...hp?game_id=113

the wolf · 06 July 2004, 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy

Having never owned an ST or played any of the games, I was wondering if there are any particularly good games on the ST that did not get released for the Amiga; and if there are any ST versions that are better than the corresponding Amiga version (please try to keep your responses objective, I think we're beyond the Amiga is better than ST/vice versa debate these days!)

As for ST games not released for Amiga, there is an interesting thread here:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9629

...and add these bunch of titles:

IK
Hatris
Karateka
Xevious
Where time stood still

Fred the Fop · 07 July 2004, 07:39

I am a big Atari ST fan, the boards resident booster for this abused gaming platform.

Here is something you'd like. 2 new and super atari ST shooters, recently finished. Read the thread, then download and play them! Droid 2 and Bold.

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=14045

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=13923

Also,, 2 years ago I started a thread about just what you asked. Good, non Amiga atari St games, Hope this helps.

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=5940

Tolismlf · 08 July 2004, 23:46

OK i never owned an Atari ST, always been faithful to the Amiga until 2 years ago that i bought a PC, but as i have used the STEem i can say these:
Nitro is better on the ST
Captive is better on the ST
Tiger Road better on the ST
Operation Stealth better on the ST
Dungeon Master is better on the ST
Super Wonderboy is better on the ST
Pacmania is a crap on the ST
Chuck Rock Amiga crashes Chuck Rock ST
Double Dragon ST sucks
Turiccan 2 ST sucks
Robocop 2 ST sucks
Space Harrier ST sucks
Kick off 2 Amiga is a little better than the ST version
Xenon 2 equal
ST dragon equal
Silkworm + Pang + Populous 1 & 2 + Rainbow islands + Speedball 2 a little better on the Amiga but ST versions are quite good.
Generally Psygnossis games are much better on the Amiga.
Some other games are equal, the most of them is better on the Amiga, especially to the sound.
Thanks i want to see your opinion

tokalash · 13 July 2004, 13:58

According to http://come.to/lastninja/ there was a pre-release version (4 disks) of Last Ninja 1 on the ST. Check the download section, well worth a look, I guess.
I remember some kind of advertising for an upcoming release of LN1 for the 16-bit formats, but I've never seen the actual game running on an Amiga. So, there's another one...

Galaxy · 13 July 2004, 14:14

Cool thanks guys - this gives me plenty to look at (if only I had more time... )

Bloodwych · 13 July 2004, 15:50

Oids, Super Sprint, Defender of the Crown, Bloodwych, Barbarian, Livingstone I Presume, Plutos, Gauntlet, Star Wars, Falcon, Time Bandit - great ST memories before going Amiga, batman pack style.

Never take the years I owned an ST away however. Really enjoyed using that machine.

7-Zark-7 · 19 July 2004, 13:37

As much as it hurts to say, I would still say the ST version of Llamatron was better than the Amiga port-though the miggy version being a port meant it was never going to shine thru with the better gameplay feel/use of the host machine that the ST original had.

Btw-I wouldn't feel too bad about ST double dragon being bad-was there ever such a thing as a "good" version of DD other than the arcade original?!

Tolismlf · 19 July 2004, 13:49

I think DD on Amstrad CPC was the best computer version.
Best console version is Megadrive, almost same as the original.

knightbeat · 13 January 2020, 00:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

Oids, Super Sprint, Defender of the Crown, Bloodwych, Barbarian, Livingstone I Presume, Plutos, Gauntlet, Star Wars, Falcon, Time Bandit - great ST memories before going Amiga, batman pack style.

Never take the years I owned an ST away however. Really enjoyed using that machine.

I stumbled across a comparison video of 'Livingstone, I Presume' earlier and was surprised how good it looked. It was released on most mid-80s platforms, with the Atari ST being the best, but surprisingly no Amiga version . The Amiga received a conversion of the sequel a few years later, which must have been confusing for anyone picking it up at the time.

The view count for Livingstone gameplay videos are astonishingly low - just a few hundred in most cases - so I guess it's quite obscure. It looks fun and worthy of attention though.

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dreadnought · 13 January 2020, 09:59

Sundog was their killer app.

Galahad/FLT · 13 January 2020, 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreadnought

Sundog was their killer app.

Coming to a 1meg Amiga near you soon

Foebane · 13 January 2020, 11:36

I can't bear most ST games or demos because of the awful sound chip. The only exceptions are those games that solely used sound samples on the ST. They don't sound as crisp and clear as Amiga sound samples, but they're better than the alternative.

roondar · 13 January 2020, 11:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tolismlf

OK i never owned an Atari ST, always been faithful to the Amiga until 2 years ago that i bought a PC, but as i have used the STEem i can say these:
...
Captive is better on the ST
Dungeon Master is better on the ST
...

Out of general interest, in what way would you consider those games better?

It's interesting to me because these games are not "action packed" so should probably not suffer to much even if they were straight ST ports. Are they slower? Or is it something else?

Just to be clear, I only want your opinion here - I'm not trying to start an argument that the Amiga versions are better or something like that. See, I sadly haven't played either game and so can't judge them to begin with. This is just to satisfy my curiousity

Seiya · 13 January 2020, 12:52

with Atari St emulation i found very nice games that give good gaming experience. i found some game that have sampled sound that of course it is much better than using audio chip. however, i think audio chip is that, so, for Atari users is normal to hear that sound quality and for the rest, sometimes gameplay and graphics i saw and played very very good titles.

Tigerskunk · 13 January 2020, 12:53

The Bards Tale Atari ST version has three different sets of dungeons walls, the Amiga only one!

Foebane · 13 January 2020, 16:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seiya

with Atari St emulation i found very nice games that give good gaming experience. i found some game that have sampled sound that of course it is much better than using audio chip. however, i think audio chip is that, so, for Atari users is normal to hear that sound quality and for the rest, sometimes gameplay and graphics i saw and played very very good titles.

Don't get me wrong, I had an Atari STFM before I had my Amiga 500, and the sound didn't bother me as much as it now does, and that's because I heard Amiga music and audio afterwards and I just couldn't go back.

But I played most of my first 16-bit games on ST first, like Carrier Command, Damocles, E-Motion and Vaxine, among others.

Retro-Nerd · 13 January 2020, 17:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Coming to a 1meg Amiga near you soon

Really? Even Meynaf said it's too much work. Great news.

06 July 2004, 13:31	#1
Galaxy Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 46 Posts: 1,417	Atari ST games Having never owned an ST or played any of the games, I was wondering if there are any particularly good games on the ST that did not get released for the Amiga; and if there are any ST versions that are better than the corresponding Amiga version (please try to keep your responses objective, I think we're beyond the Amiga is better than ST/vice versa debate these days!)

07 July 2004, 07:39	#5
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	I am a big Atari ST fan, the boards resident booster for this abused gaming platform. Here is something you'd like. 2 new and super atari ST shooters, recently finished. Read the thread, then download and play them! Droid 2 and Bold. http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=14045 http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=13923 Also,, 2 years ago I started a thread about just what you asked. Good, non Amiga atari St games, Hope this helps. http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=5940 Last edited by Fred the Fop; 09 July 2004 at 05:56.

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06 July 2004, 14:07	#2
RCK Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Paris / France Age: 45 Posts: 3,096	oids

06 July 2004, 17:24	#3
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	Also, there was Super Sprint. http://www.atarilegend.com/games/gam...hp?game_id=113

08 July 2004, 23:46	#6
Tolismlf Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Greece Posts: 237	OK i never owned an Atari ST, always been faithful to the Amiga until 2 years ago that i bought a PC, but as i have used the STEem i can say these: Nitro is better on the ST Captive is better on the ST Tiger Road better on the ST Operation Stealth better on the ST Dungeon Master is better on the ST Super Wonderboy is better on the ST Pacmania is a crap on the ST Chuck Rock Amiga crashes Chuck Rock ST Double Dragon ST sucks Turiccan 2 ST sucks Robocop 2 ST sucks Space Harrier ST sucks Kick off 2 Amiga is a little better than the ST version Xenon 2 equal ST dragon equal Silkworm + Pang + Populous 1 & 2 + Rainbow islands + Speedball 2 a little better on the Amiga but ST versions are quite good. Generally Psygnossis games are much better on the Amiga. Some other games are equal, the most of them is better on the Amiga, especially to the sound. Thanks i want to see your opinion

13 July 2004, 13:58	#7
tokalash Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sweden Age: 45 Posts: 27	According to http://come.to/lastninja/ there was a pre-release version (4 disks) of Last Ninja 1 on the ST. Check the download section, well worth a look, I guess. I remember some kind of advertising for an upcoming release of LN1 for the 16-bit formats, but I've never seen the actual game running on an Amiga. So, there's another one...

13 July 2004, 14:14	#8
Galaxy Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 46 Posts: 1,417	Cool thanks guys - this gives me plenty to look at (if only I had more time... )

13 July 2004, 15:50	#9
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Oids, Super Sprint, Defender of the Crown, Bloodwych, Barbarian, Livingstone I Presume, Plutos, Gauntlet, Star Wars, Falcon, Time Bandit - great ST memories before going Amiga, batman pack style. Never take the years I owned an ST away however. Really enjoyed using that machine.

19 July 2004, 13:37	#10
7-Zark-7 Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Brisbane/Australia Posts: 1,270	As much as it hurts to say, I would still say the ST version of Llamatron was better than the Amiga port-though the miggy version being a port meant it was never going to shine thru with the better gameplay feel/use of the host machine that the ST original had. Btw-I wouldn't feel too bad about ST double dragon being bad-was there ever such a thing as a "good" version of DD other than the arcade original?!

19 July 2004, 13:49	#11
Tolismlf Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Greece Posts: 237	I think DD on Amstrad CPC was the best computer version. Best console version is Megadrive, almost same as the original.

13 January 2020, 09:59	#13
dreadnought Registered User Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Ur, Atlantis Posts: 2,006	Sundog was their killer app.

13 January 2020, 11:36	#15
Foebane Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cardiff, UK Age: 51 Posts: 2,871	I can't bear most ST games or demos because of the awful sound chip. The only exceptions are those games that solely used sound samples on the ST. They don't sound as crisp and clear as Amiga sound samples, but they're better than the alternative.

13 January 2020, 12:52	#17
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,425	with Atari St emulation i found very nice games that give good gaming experience. i found some game that have sampled sound that of course it is much better than using audio chip. however, i think audio chip is that, so, for Atari users is normal to hear that sound quality and for the rest, sometimes gameplay and graphics i saw and played very very good titles.

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Tigerskunk Inviyya Dude! Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Amiga Island Posts: 2,787	The Bards Tale Atari ST version has three different sets of dungeons walls, the Amiga only one!

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