ProTracker 2.3F - Page 5

daxb · 08 August 2018, 14:24

New commands means adding incompatibility what means more or less a new tracker with new module format. However, 8bitbubsy can tell you more.

ross · 08 August 2018, 14:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8bitbubsy

I updated PT2.3E today with some fixes:

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by daxb

New commands means adding incompatibility what means more or less a new tracker with new module format.

Not necessarily.
Historically command 8 is free so...

Simply new modules using command 8 would not play well with old players
(as happened for many other players of the past when new commands were introduced).

Paulee_Bow · 08 August 2018, 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by daxb

New commands means adding incompatibility what means more or less a new tracker with new module format. However, 8bitbubsy can tell you more.

Of course, but I wouldn’t mind having this for my music anyway, I’m not looking to be compatible with anything as I’m using the Amiga to make music for CD’s along with other instruments.

daxb · 08 August 2018, 15:38

As far as I know 8xx is used (seldom) for syncing music with graphics. Then 8xx usually is used for panning what can make problems. However, ask 8bitbubsy if he wants to add features to PT2.3E.

ross · 08 August 2018, 16:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by daxb

As far as I know 8xx is used (seldom) for syncing music with graphics.

True, but anyway in free mode and out of specs.
And you can use another command for sync, like E8x

However it is really difficult to touch a format now stable for many years like that of PT..

Paulee_Bow · 08 August 2018, 16:46

Stable or not I feel it was a mistake, the AM capabilities are right there on the chip and it was puzzling why they weren’t used.

Yes, audio rate modulation is a niche thing that mainly only modular synth users care about, and yes, you lose a channel, but it’s cool to have options. Aegis Sonix makes the most insane glitchy pads if you turn AM on whilst playing, breathtaking and perfect for soundtrack work through a bit of reverb.

Perhaps a special edition Protracker could have this feature, and be advertised as only for mad scientists.

8bitbubsy · 10 August 2018, 15:17

Sorry, not going to to do that, xanderbeanz. 8xx is already used for panning in most non-Amiga MOD players.
Since there's no proper way of identifying what tracker a .MOD was written with, it would create further frustration for MOD player coders.

8bitbubsy · 23 February 2019, 18:32

The current version of PT2.3E is now the final release version, since I didn't get any bug reports in a long time.
Thanks to all the people that beta tested it! It may still contain bugs, and if I get a list of new bugs (or find some myself) then I'll most likely create a 2.3F or 2.4 version some time in the future.

It can be found at https://16-bits.org/other.php

syphus · 11 March 2019, 17:52

Thanks for the updates 8bitbubsy!

One possible bug that you might want to file away for the future is that I couldn't get the new version to load PT.Config-XX files until I edited line 425 in pt_config.c from:

if (strcmp(cfgString, "PT1.0 Configuration File\012"))

to

if (!strcmp(cfgString, "PT1.0 Configuration File\012"))

I don't think too many other people use PT.Config files though, so it's probably not that critical

8bitbubsy · 11 March 2019, 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by syphus

Thanks for the updates 8bitbubsy!

One possible bug that you might want to file away for the future is that I couldn't get the new version to load PT.Config-XX files until I edited line 425 in pt_config.c from:

if (strcmp(cfgString, "PT1.0 Configuration File\012"))

to

if (!strcmp(cfgString, "PT1.0 Configuration File\012"))

I don't think too many other people use PT.Config files though, so it's probably not that critical

The code you're referring to is not wrong, strcmp returns 0 when the string matches.
The clone is loading PT.Config-xx files here, I tested right now.

EDIT: It seems like you have a PT.Config-00 file that does not contain "PT1.x Configuration File" in the beginning. Can you upload it?

PS: This thread is about ProTracker 2.3E for Amiga, not the ProTracker clone for modern systems.

syphus · 11 March 2019, 19:17

Whoops, well thanks also for the updates to 2.3E!

And I've discovered the problem with some of my Config files - 00 instead of 0A (null instead of line terminator) at 0x18 makes them fail the comparison. The check must be less stringent in 2.3D/2.3E, or else I'd have noticed long ago.

Sorry for the time-wasting

8bitbubsy · 11 March 2019, 20:00

Interesting! I will remove the \012 from the string test.

8bitbubsy · 15 August 2019, 15:55

New version of ProTracker 2.3E was just released, with these fixes:
- Added a program icon that you can double-click to run the program
- Fix config load error when ran from WB icon (thanks to ross @ abime!)
- Fixed scopes behaving completely wrong (oops)

https://16-bits.org/PT23E.LHA

Estrayk · 15 August 2019, 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8bitbubsy

New version of ProTracker 2.3E was just released, with these fixes:
- Added a program icon that you can double-click to run the program
- Fix config load error when ran from WB icon (thanks to ross @ abime!)
- Fixed scopes behaving completely wrong (oops)

https://16-bits.org/PT23E.LHA

Thank you for your work 8bitbubsy!

hitchhikr · 15 August 2019, 22:38

"CTRL + ALT + SHIFT + LEFT-AMIGA + DEL"

This command inverts the pattern rows contents (63->0 0->63 62->1 1->62 etc.)

8bitbubsy · 15 August 2019, 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitchhikr

"CTRL + ALT + SHIFT + LEFT-AMIGA + DEL"

This command inverts the pattern rows contents (63->0 0->63 62->1 1->62 etc.)

Ah I see. The only sensible usage I can think of is for preparing a pattern for the backwards play trick (carefully using Dxx + Bxx).

hitchhikr · 16 August 2019, 02:57

That's most probably why it was made for.

8bitbubsy · 20 August 2019, 14:38

Could a mod/admin please rename this thread's title to "ProTracker 2.3E" (without the quotes)?
Thanks.

DamienD · 20 August 2019, 14:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8bitbubsy

Could a mod/admin please rename this thread's title to "ProTracker 2.3E" (without the quotes)?
Thanks.

Done

8bitbubsy · 26 August 2019, 12:00

Small update to "final" version:
- The quadrascope would not work on higher sample numbers (above 0x10 or something).
- The bundled WB icon is now a tool-type instead of a project-type, which means that it can be ran from tools like f.ex. ToolsDaemon.

https://16-bits.org/other.php

Please remind me about why I dislike leaving the beta stage in programming.

10 August 2018, 15:17	#87
8bitbubsy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Norway Posts: 1,709	Sorry, not going to to do that, xanderbeanz. 8xx is already used for panning in most non-Amiga MOD players. Since there's no proper way of identifying what tracker a .MOD was written with, it would create further frustration for MOD player coders. Last edited by 8bitbubsy; 23 February 2019 at 18:35.

23 February 2019, 18:32	#88
8bitbubsy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Norway Posts: 1,709	The current version of PT2.3E is now the final release version, since I didn't get any bug reports in a long time. Thanks to all the people that beta tested it! It may still contain bugs, and if I get a list of new bugs (or find some myself) then I'll most likely create a 2.3F or 2.4 version some time in the future. It can be found at https://16-bits.org/other.php Last edited by 8bitbubsy; 23 February 2019 at 20:52.

15 August 2019, 22:38	#95
hitchhikr Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: somewhere else Posts: 511	"CTRL + ALT + SHIFT + LEFT-AMIGA + DEL" This command inverts the pattern rows contents (63->0 0->63 62->1 1->62 etc.) Last edited by hitchhikr; 15 August 2019 at 22:45.

26 August 2019, 12:00	#100
8bitbubsy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Norway Posts: 1,709	Small update to "final" version: - The quadrascope would not work on higher sample numbers (above 0x10 or something). - The bundled WB icon is now a tool-type instead of a project-type, which means that it can be ran from tools like f.ex. ToolsDaemon. https://16-bits.org/other.php Please remind me about why I dislike leaving the beta stage in programming. Last edited by 8bitbubsy; 26 August 2019 at 14:57.

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08 August 2018, 14:24	#81
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	New commands means adding incompatibility what means more or less a new tracker with new module format. However, 8bitbubsy can tell you more.

08 August 2018, 15:38	#84
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	As far as I know 8xx is used (seldom) for syncing music with graphics. Then 8xx usually is used for panning what can make problems. However, ask 8bitbubsy if he wants to add features to PT2.3E.

08 August 2018, 16:46	#86
Paulee_Bow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 185	Stable or not I feel it was a mistake, the AM capabilities are right there on the chip and it was puzzling why they weren’t used. Yes, audio rate modulation is a niche thing that mainly only modular synth users care about, and yes, you lose a channel, but it’s cool to have options. Aegis Sonix makes the most insane glitchy pads if you turn AM on whilst playing, breathtaking and perfect for soundtrack work through a bit of reverb. Perhaps a special edition Protracker could have this feature, and be advertised as only for mad scientists.

11 March 2019, 17:52	#89
syphus Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 23	Thanks for the updates 8bitbubsy! One possible bug that you might want to file away for the future is that I couldn't get the new version to load PT.Config-XX files until I edited line 425 in pt_config.c from: if (strcmp(cfgString, "PT1.0 Configuration File\012")) to if (!strcmp(cfgString, "PT1.0 Configuration File\012")) I don't think too many other people use PT.Config files though, so it's probably not that critical

11 March 2019, 19:17	#91
syphus Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 23	Whoops, well thanks also for the updates to 2.3E! And I've discovered the problem with some of my Config files - 00 instead of 0A (null instead of line terminator) at 0x18 makes them fail the comparison. The check must be less stringent in 2.3D/2.3E, or else I'd have noticed long ago. Sorry for the time-wasting

11 March 2019, 20:00	#92
8bitbubsy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Norway Posts: 1,709	Interesting! I will remove the \012 from the string test.

15 August 2019, 15:55	#93
8bitbubsy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Norway Posts: 1,709	New version of ProTracker 2.3E was just released, with these fixes: - Added a program icon that you can double-click to run the program - Fix config load error when ran from WB icon (thanks to ross @ abime!) - Fixed scopes behaving completely wrong (oops) https://16-bits.org/PT23E.LHA

16 August 2019, 02:57	#97
hitchhikr Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: somewhere else Posts: 511	That's most probably why it was made for.

20 August 2019, 14:38	#98
8bitbubsy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Norway Posts: 1,709	Could a mod/admin please rename this thread's title to "ProTracker 2.3E" (without the quotes)? Thanks.

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