19 May 2016, 22:44 | #1 |
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Well.... https://mobile.twitter.com/mntmn/sta...47412744474624
That's something al right. Whoever that is, I am sure that I will never buy anything from them ever. |
19 May 2016, 23:03 | #2 |
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The Amiga "community" alright.... What's new
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19 May 2016, 23:05 | #3 |
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What do the message and responses say?
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online ocr and yandex translation:
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After the author of this threat is fully revealed, I hope the community pulls its consequences on the basis of these facts - and kicks the money-making-machine of this dude, where it belongs. #1) discussion on a1k - use yandex translate, works good here. I already can read Jens and IComp Last edited by emufan; 19 May 2016 at 23:35. |
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I am not sure how to read this, logic wise. A private Individual appears to be talking to the P96 authors in an attempt to take sole custody of the rights for P96. The original owners have previously stated that they did not want payment or mind people using the drivers for whatever reason. Gunnar did approach them to try to get licensing for the drivers and offered payment for them. It now appears this Individual is attempting to try to buy the rights. This will affect a lot of older and new hardware if the license if rigourously defended by a new owner.
It will also have the knock on affect to drive developers to design new drivers that cannot be construed as being created from the P96. May be this Individual will identify himself and let people know his plans? (The email is not a fake btw) |
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I think this might be the intention of such a dude. #1) over at a1k, you could also read about CyberGFX 68k as an alternative. Matze, when it did translate well, was sending a card to the author of CyberGfx already. |
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I'm sure Jens has invested a lot of money in the Amiga, but it's extremely sad to see him attempt to control, or scare away, every bit of homebrew hardware that comes out these days (Vampire, mntmn's card, hell even a little USB-PS2 mouse adapter on another thread here). |
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nice statement by Matze a1k:
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(mine is the result of a conversation with mntmn on IRC) |
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20 May 2016, 01:14 | #13 |
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What an incredible soap opera this has become.
As a temporary solution, just put the drivers on P2P networks and remove links to them from product websites or forums. Good luck removing anything from P2P... |
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"No distribution restrictions as long as the the archive is complete and none of the files within is changed." This means that even if the current archive is removed from Aminet, anyone is entitled to continue distributing it. I would encourage multiple people to post the SHA1 sum of the current archive, for future verification of other sources. Here is my result: 39ef141050f88bd900653ae4702a93feee844b31 Picasso96.lha I have uploaded the file to archive.org and it can be downloaded from https://archive.org/download/Picasso96/Picasso96.lha (they also have a page with basic metadata about the file at https://archive.org/details/Picasso96 ) Should it be removed from Aminet, the source of the redistribution permission will also disappear, so if anyone needs this in the future, see https://web.archive.org/web/20160304...ideo/Picasso96 Last edited by cmsj; 20 May 2016 at 10:38. |
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dont forget the unofficial Picasso96 2.1e.
SHA1: 99A4E8676B1F835021D359B315403D43DD75655B - Picasso96-2_1.e.zip (size: 716610) Last edited by emufan; 20 May 2016 at 02:11. |
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I noticed that the twitter message was deleted, which sucks. So for anyone who still wants to read it:
https://locutus.puscii.nl/files/P96_WTF.jpg |
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slightly off topic, but those translations from german to english/norwegian are really tiresome to read.
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20 May 2016, 11:47 | #18 |
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Surely, the old P96 archive with its original license scheme can still be used and distributed even if someone else buys its rights?
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Absolutely. Plus the old licensing scheme has not been enforced for 20 years. Do you see ATI paying the license when they sell (sold) Radeon PCI cards which had Amiga drivers? Nope
Sell your new Amiga gfx card product with a full hardware reference manual, but no driver. Include enough information for anyone to develop a driver. Then let "the community" develop a driver for it Job done. |
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The new FPGA boards that are out and coming out would not be permitted to use P96 without being held hostage, neither would any new graphics board. It would mean the end of P96 anyway as the relevant folk are already looking into CyberGFX as a alternative in case this happens. |
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