PCMCIA CF card used as RAM with prepcard

_ThEcRoW · 25 February 2006, 15:18

Well, i have noticed, that in prepcard you can use a pcmcia card for use as disk or as system ram. It means that you can use it at a max of 8mb ram any pcmcia memory card? Since the cf is recognised as pcmcia card, is possible to use it as ram?(i know it's only 8 mb max, but could it be possible?)
Thanks in advance!!!!

thomas · 25 February 2006, 16:08

You can only use RAM cards with PrepCard. CF cards cannot be used as RAM.

_ThEcRoW · 25 February 2006, 21:13

Thanks, i figured that it couldn't be an easy task, but thanks for your reply.
So only for storage, no?

InTheSand · 25 February 2006, 22:13

Given the relatively limited read/write cycles that a CF card will survive, I don't think you'd want to use it as RAM for any length of time!

But for storage it's fine, you'll need CFD and FAT95 from Aminet.

- Ali

Smiley · 25 February 2006, 22:56

Does anyone know where I can buy PCMCIA fast ram cards for my A600??

EDIT: Found a 2mb for £60 and a 1mb for £30.....hardly seems worth the price tbh

amethyst · 26 February 2006, 01:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiley1635

Does anyone know where I can buy PCMCIA fast ram cards for my A600??

EDIT: Found a 2mb for £60 and a 1mb for £30.....hardly seems worth the price tbh

You can sometimes get 2Mb pcmcia sram cards on ebay for around £10 sometimes much less (~£5) if you're very lucky. They work fine in an A600.

alexh · 26 February 2006, 02:50

4Mbyte is the largest the Amiga can take.

They can also take PCMCIA _D_RAM cards too.

An American ebay user "sycom" recently got hold of 85 * 4Mbyte PCMCIA cards but is selling them at stupid prices (or rather NOT selling them) decide what you want to pay and make him an offer. He does ship to Europe.

Bear in mind:

1) A bootable 2.5" hard drive is the most important part of your A600 kit. Get that first, RAM can come later.
2) 2Mbyte Chip RAM (Standard A600 + Trapdoor RAM) is just enough to run most WHDload games.
3) You may want to use your PCMCIA slot for transferring data to and from your Amiga (Network card / CF adapter) dont create a workbench setup that requires a PCMCIA RAM card (New Icons etc. etc.)

Smiley · 26 February 2006, 13:01

@alexh

Just checked out that sycom guy 4mb card is $85

I already have a bootbale 2.5" HD and 2mb chip ram.

Guess I will search ebay for spelling mistakes etc :P

EDIT: What will 4mb fast ram allow me to achieve? I know that WHDloading will be easier but what about upgrading my workbench etc?

Daniel · 26 February 2006, 17:05

Smiley1635,

Im watching out for 1 one on ebay as well same chap sycom, I want a 4 meg which will cost a bit but its not out of my price range so i might just go for it rather than wait for another to surface.

Ive just bought a pcmcia network kit on ebay as well coz im pissed of with waiting 3 minutes to copy a single adf back onto floppy, all i need now is that sram and im sorted.

Say bye to all those Whdload woes

alexh · 06 March 2006, 18:57

Ask Sycom what price he will give you... he's sold some for much less than that buy it now price.

Chain · 07 March 2006, 15:44

limited numner of write cycles?

PRETEC 40X CompactFlash Card is the industries fastest and most reliable standard level CF Card available today. With endurance exceeding 1,000,000 write erase cycles per

imagine how much is one milion writes and how cheap are those cards

))

im not worried bout death of cf´s at all...

thomas · 07 March 2006, 16:08

Quote:

imagine how much is one milion writes and how cheap are those cards

One million writes is much for a HDD, but for RAM it is nothing. Open a shell window and enter rx "do i=1 to 1000000; end". Lasts thirty seconds and bang, your card is dead. A HDD might even survive with several read errors. But with a single dead cell in RAM a computer is dead, too. So you have to buy a new card about every thirty seconds if you want to use it as RAM. Do you still think they are cheap ?

_ThEcRoW · 07 March 2006, 16:23

Are nowadays produced those ram cards for laptops perhaps?. It is just that i don't want to rely only on second had hardware so much...

Chain · 07 March 2006, 16:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomas

One million writes is much for a HDD, but for RAM it is nothing. Open a shell window and enter rx "do i=1 to 1000000; end". Lasts thirty seconds and bang, your card is dead. A HDD might even survive with several read errors. But with a single dead cell in RAM a computer is dead, too. So you have to buy a new card about every thirty seconds if you want to use it as RAM. Do you still think they are cheap ?

cf card cant be used as ram, coz its basically ide interface.

as hdd is good medium for miggy in those days

25 February 2006, 15:18	#1
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 942	PCMCIA CF card used as RAM with prepcard Well, i have noticed, that in prepcard you can use a pcmcia card for use as disk or as system ram. It means that you can use it at a max of 8mb ram any pcmcia memory card? Since the cf is recognised as pcmcia card, is possible to use it as ram?(i know it's only 8 mb max, but could it be possible?) Thanks in advance!!!!

25 February 2006, 22:56	#5
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,350	Does anyone know where I can buy PCMCIA fast ram cards for my A600?? EDIT: Found a 2mb for £60 and a 1mb for £30.....hardly seems worth the price tbh Last edited by Smiley; 25 February 2006 at 23:04.

26 February 2006, 02:50	#7
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,466	4Mbyte is the largest the Amiga can take. They can also take PCMCIA _D_RAM cards too. An American ebay user "sycom" recently got hold of 85 * 4Mbyte PCMCIA cards but is selling them at stupid prices (or rather NOT selling them) decide what you want to pay and make him an offer. He does ship to Europe. Bear in mind: 1) A bootable 2.5" hard drive is the most important part of your A600 kit. Get that first, RAM can come later. 2) 2Mbyte Chip RAM (Standard A600 + Trapdoor RAM) is just enough to run most WHDload games. 3) You may want to use your PCMCIA slot for transferring data to and from your Amiga (Network card / CF adapter) dont create a workbench setup that requires a PCMCIA RAM card (New Icons etc. etc.) Last edited by alexh; 26 February 2006 at 02:57.

26 February 2006, 13:01	#8
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,350	@alexh Just checked out that sycom guy 4mb card is $85 I already have a bootbale 2.5" HD and 2mb chip ram. Guess I will search ebay for spelling mistakes etc :P EDIT: What will 4mb fast ram allow me to achieve? I know that WHDloading will be easier but what about upgrading my workbench etc? Last edited by Smiley; 26 February 2006 at 13:20.

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25 February 2006, 16:08	#2
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,026	You can only use RAM cards with PrepCard. CF cards cannot be used as RAM.

25 February 2006, 21:13	#3
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 942	Thanks, i figured that it couldn't be an easy task, but thanks for your reply. So only for storage, no?

25 February 2006, 22:13	#4
InTheSand Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 43	Given the relatively limited read/write cycles that a CF card will survive, I don't think you'd want to use it as RAM for any length of time! But for storage it's fine, you'll need CFD and FAT95 from Aminet. - Ali

26 February 2006, 17:05	#9
Daniel Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lincoln UK Age: 46 Posts: 23	Smiley1635, Im watching out for 1 one on ebay as well same chap sycom, I want a 4 meg which will cost a bit but its not out of my price range so i might just go for it rather than wait for another to surface. Ive just bought a pcmcia network kit on ebay as well coz im pissed of with waiting 3 minutes to copy a single adf back onto floppy, all i need now is that sram and im sorted. Say bye to all those Whdload woes

06 March 2006, 18:57	#10
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,466	Ask Sycom what price he will give you... he's sold some for much less than that buy it now price.

07 March 2006, 15:44	#11
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	limited numner of write cycles? PRETEC 40X CompactFlash Card is the industries fastest and most reliable standard level CF Card available today. With endurance exceeding 1,000,000 write erase cycles per imagine how much is one milion writes and how cheap are those cards )) im not worried bout death of cf´s at all...

07 March 2006, 16:23	#13
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 942	Are nowadays produced those ram cards for laptops perhaps?. It is just that i don't want to rely only on second had hardware so much...

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